Value of: 3C/PK Specialist to NJ

[Unbiased Fan]

1st overall picks have historically had a bigger impact in a shorter period of time than all 3 of them.

I think the ship has sailed on Hischier living up to 1st overall pick levels of production, but I still think he's a good middle 6 Center.

Hughes has flashed but needs to stay healthy and put it together for an entire season.

It's looking like we're gonna have to wait another season for that Lafreniere breakout.

Besides, just read my post again where I said "it's still early for some of the more recent guys."

Not every 1st overall pick has equivalent expectations. McDavid had huge expectations where as Hischer had late top 10 expectations in a average draft due to the weakness of his draft

 

[KovalSNIPE]

Henrique doesn’t play PK. No, thanks.

Are you on drugs?

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Mikheyev when he's back (PK not a C)

 

[Miller Time]

I was saying a couple of days ago the Devils need to remain patient and not overspend or strap the cap while the kids gel together. However, there is one glaring hole that needs to be addressed immediately. The Devils special teams is atrocious. If the Devils can’t score on the PP, they at least need to be able to kill off penalties. None of the bottom 6 at this point is even on the PK, except for McLeod, for face-off purposes. When Nico is killing 4 penalties a night, he’s playing in situations that eat up productive ice time that can be used 5v5 or on the PP. If Tom Fitzgerald is talking about competing in late April in big games, he needs to get help and get more productivity from the bottom 6 outside of 5v5.

The Devils need a 3C/PK specialist that can maybe move to Wing when Jack comes back and Mercer moves back to 3C. Is there a player available like that?

Probably would be willing to give up assets like:
2022 2nd-4th Round picks
Jesper Boqvist
Kevin Bahl
Nikita Okhotyuk
Marian Studenic

Who’s that player and what would it take?

can't fill that now, but if the need is still there in 2-3 months, Paul Byron might be a great fit... has 1 more year at 3.4M on his contract. Would immediately upgrade that PK, and is a solid vet leader as far as work ethic and professionalism, which might appeal given the youthful Devils forward group.

some retention could be a possibility if we're talking a 2nd...

 

[Buck Dancer]

They don't need a new player. They need proper coaching.

It’s hard to have a good PK when everyone playing on it, especially our dmen, are all offensive minded.

I mean, we have Severson, Hamilton and Subban on our PK with Graves being the 4th options. With Hamilton missing the 2nd and 3rd period yesterday, we had Siegenthaler replace him, so that’s not better.

 

[Eggtimer]

It’s hard to have a good PK when everyone playing on it, especially our dmen, are all offensive minded.

I mean, we have Severson, Hamilton and Subban on our PK with Graves being the 4th options. With Hamilton missing the 2nd and 3rd period yesterday, we had Siegenthaler replace him, so that’s not better.

Graves has been amazing defensively so far . Not sure he is the 4th option , was being used as the go to guy on the PK and no short handed goals against were his fault really.
Anywho , like it’s been said, we need new assista t coaches . And wait for holtz.

 

[Buck Dancer]

Graves has been amazing defensively so far . Not sure he is the 4th option , was being used as the go to guy on the PK and no short handed goals against were his fault really.
Anywho , like it’s been said, we need new assista t coaches . And wait for holtz.

I didn’t mean he was our 4th option, as in he’s the 4th best PK’er. I fully agree that he’s our main option on the PK, so it’s probably bad phrasing on my part.

What I was trying to say is that we need more defensive dman on our roster, hence the reason why I’m on the fence about resigning Severson long term but that’s another topic for another day.

 

[Xspyrit]

What about Chris Tierney at 50% retention? 3.5 AAV but UFA. If he gels, you could maybe re-sign him for a reasonable amount. Sens need a RW and a RD so actually a package could be a better idea. Sens also have Brannstrom, a lot of good prospects and some interesting picks as well.

The problem is Ottawa really has poor forward depth right now due to injuries and several kids not 100% ready

But when Shane Pinto, Angus Crookshank and Colin White return (I know Stu isn't on the top line right now but that's how that line would be very high end :

Stutzle - Norris - Batherson
Paul - Pinto - Brown (matchup line)
Tkachuk - White - Formenton
Sanford - Gambrell - Watson
Crookshank/Ennis

Tierney could then be traded

 

[Rebels57]

Not every 1st overall pick has equivalent expectations. McDavid had huge expectations where as Hischer had late top 10 expectations in a average draft due to the weakness of his draft

Point taken, but I think most were still calling him a potential 70 point Center. Would still love to have Hischier on my team in the middle 6, but it doesn't look like the 70 point projections were accurate either.

 

[KingTech]

hey now hold up. Lets offer Lizotte first.

I would actually rather open his spot in the lineup for a younger player in need of a spot Turcotte comes to mind. We could use one of Nj defenseman.

 

[Irie]

But seriously...maybe Alex Wennberg? I'm pretty sure that he was quite competent on the PK last year for Florida? Maybe Panthers fans can confirm? I don't think Seattle is really utilizing him a ton there this year, and they signed him to a three year deal so I'm not sure what their appetite is for trading him, but I would think he kind of fits the bill?

Seattle is currently using Wennberg as a top 6 center. Their top 6 depth is really thin so it may take an overpay for them to give him up.

They do have a lot of bottom six depth though. NJ might be better off inquiring about a guy like Riley Sheahan. Was very serviceable in that roll last year in Buffalo, and after looking good to start the season playing with Tanev and Bastion, he's been less noticeable as of late.

He still has a roll with the Kraken, so they aren't looking to actively move him, but might be available for the right price.

 

[Eggtimer]

No he isn't. This shit's so f***ing stupid.

How has he looked good ? We are getting better production out of our 20 year old rookie. He is playing like a borderline 2c / very good 3c .

 

[AmadiosAmigos]

Zemgus Girgensons +

for

Nolan Foote

 

[The Blunder Years]

Ladies and gentlemen I present… Cody… EAKIN!

 

[Forge]

Wasn’t Zacha this?

For the good of everybody, it was decided he should not be a center any more.

Ever.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Point taken, but I think most were still calling him a potential 70 point Center. Would still love to have Hischier on my team in the middle 6, but it doesn't look like the 70 point projections were accurate either.

I’m not a New Jersey fan but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t become a 70 point player.

 

[tomobson]

The Rangers have a Ryan Strome to trade.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

What's your offer for the Goat 3C Kyle Turris?

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Are you on drugs?

Why are you asking him that like it would be a bad thing?

 

[LTIR]

Does McLeod not PK?

 

[justHypnos]

I think it's fine, let the younger players practice PKing and sign someone as a UFA if there's still a need next year. No rush

 

[Forge]

I’m not a New Jersey fan but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t become a 70 point player.

He may have that one super good season where he hits 70, maybe a second where he gets close, but my expectation is that would be an outlier. I think he's a 50ish point guy

 

[Guttersniped]

It’s hard to have a good PK when everyone playing on it, especially our dmen, are all offensive minded.

I mean, we have Severson, Hamilton and Subban on our PK with Graves being the 4th options. With Hamilton missing the 2nd and 3rd period yesterday, we had Siegenthaler replace him, so that’s not better.

Yes, I would agree that the defense doesn’t have a PK guy.

Graves has been amazing defensively so far . Not sure he is the 4th option , was being used as the go to guy on the PK and no short handed goals against were his fault really.
Anywho , like it’s been said, we need new assista t coaches . And wait for holtz.

Graves has been up and down, he had a couple really rough games but he’s also been asked to do a lot.

The time to pick someone else up would have been July. The PK is improved though (not that that’s saying much), when the goaltending gets back on track that should help. But yes, Nasreddine should have been thrown into a volcano and we should have picked up a defensive forward in July but such is life.

The Ducks game isn’t exactly huge PK failure, if you give an opposing team seven power play opportunities (with six of them in the two periods after you lose your number one defenseman), then I don’t know if two power play goals against is that much of a shocker. The short-handed goal, and power play in general, were both more pathetic and more soul destroying.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Does McLeod not PK?

McLeod is a good penalty killer. He is just in over his head as a 3C.
Great 4th line center though.

 

[AfroThunder396]

McLeod's ceiling is a good 4th liner who wins faceoffs and PKs, but his offensive production is horrible. His shot is not NHL caliber, he can only score when he's within 10 feet of the crease. His skating, which was his biggest asset as a prospect, is merely average/slightly above average at the NHL level. He only looked like an elite skater when he was playing against teenagers who didn't mature as early as he did.

He will have a long NHL career as a role player but I don't think he's in NJ's long term plans.