GDT: #38 | Flyers at Sharks | Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 | 8:00 PM Surprisingly Reasonable Time | NBCSP, 97.5 FM

[Flyer lurker]

If Toronto were smart they would grab him to help fill in for the gimpy Matthews.


How can they shut Ersson down when Kolosov is the only other goalie on the roster?

Ivan the terrible will save the day.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

I see there's a new org defender

It is off base to blame the coach for him getting injured. He was deemed healthy. The coach played him.


Not sure how one can say he has been great. How are you defining great? Who else has been great based on your definition?

I wouldn't really defend the team that almost killed Eric Lindros cause they refused to do anything about his collapsed lung at first. Especially since the dude responsible for that fiasco is still around

 

[let it ride]

I see there's a new org defender

I wouldn't really defend the team that almost killed Eric Lindros cause they refused to do anything about his collapsed lung at first. Especially since the dude responsible for that fiasco is still around

That is your conclusion? I am Defending the team because I think blaming the coach for Sam getting hurt is incorrect? What happened to Eric is meaningless in this instance. Has zero bearing on anything.

 

[ybnvs]

He was deemed healthy.

Healthy enough to play* does not mean healed of whatever ailment.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Torts is exact type of the coach to tell his players to walk it off and then have them play through injury to try and win the very next game not thinking long term. To be fair post coaches are the same.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

That is your conclusion? I am Defending the team because I think blaming the coach for Sam getting hurt is incorrect? What happened to Eric is meaningless in this instance. Has zero bearing on anything.

Funny thing is that's it's not just exclusive to Lindros. It's something that's happened multiple times to many different players. Steve Mason comes to mind as a recent example. You can think it's incorrect if you want you just don't have a lot to stand on.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

That is your conclusion? I am Defending the team because I think blaming the coach for Sam getting hurt is incorrect? What happened to Eric is meaningless in this instance. Has zero bearing on anything.

steve Mason wants a convo with you..

just sayin...

 

[let it ride]

steve Mason wants a convo with you..

just sayin...

What does Steve Mason have to do with blaming John Torterella for Sam getting hurt? Which in itself is wrong.

Seems like a lot of misplaced blame for what could be an injury prone goalie.

 

[kudymen]

Benefit of the doubt sure is warranted after the Couturier thing last year.

 

[renberg]

Or he ius just injury prone and not in great shape. To blame the coach for his injuries is off base to me. Sam isn't anything special and I do not think he is a #1 goalie. If he can be a good backup you take it at this point.

For the next few years, the Flyers goalie situation doesn't look all that good. The 3 they have now are total question marks at this time.

Tortorella is just a clown. He knows less about his goalies than he knows about offensive hockey, which takes a lot. According to Jackie Spiegal in today's Inky,:
"Tortorella was unsure if it was a recurrence of a LBI that caused him to miss two games in early November and, after a reaggravation, another eleven before he returned against the UHC on December 8."
Additionally Tortorella said, "The way it's gone for Sam, it's a concern. For a goalie, going through some of the injuries that he has, it's not just getting healthy, it's just mental."
So the dunce behind the bench has no concept of when or when not too play an injured goalie. Did it last season and did it again this one. Then he claims it's a mental situation when a player has a physical problem.
This Flyers need to get hip to what Tortorella is telling them. He is lost at dealing with the modern game and player. He's the sort of toxic individual who will ruin any organization that he's around. It's why he was voted the most hated coach in the game

 

[let it ride]

Tortorella is just a clown. He knows less about his goalies than he knows about offensive hockey, which takes a lot. According to Jackie Spiegal in today's Inky,:
"Tortorella was unsure if it was a recurrence of a LBI that caused him to miss two games in early November and, after a reaggravation, another eleven before he returned against the UHC on December 8."
Additionally Tortorella said, "The way it's gone for Sam, it's a concern. For a goalie, going through some of the injuries that he has, it's not just getting healthy, it's just mental."
So the dunce behind the bench has no concept of when or when not too play an injured goalie. Did it last season and did it again this one. Then he claims it's a mental situation when a player has a physical problem.
This Flyers need to get hip to what Tortorella is telling them. He is lost at dealing with the modern game and player. He's the sort of toxic individual who will ruin any organization that he's around. It's why he was voted the most hated coach in the game

If he is injured, then he shouldn’t dress. Do you agree? The coach is playing the cards he is dealt. Just not faulting the coach for his injury is all. If it is a reaggravation, how is that the coaches fault?

 

[CerpinTaxt]

What does Steve Mason have to do with blaming John Torterella for Sam getting hurt? Which in itself is wrong.

Seems like a lot of misplaced blame for what could be an injury prone goalie.

Well see John is the coach of the Flyers. He's the one who decides who gets to play. Now if the Flyers org erroneously green lit Ersson to play, and John chooses him to play, then John would share in the blame of Ersson getting hurt. It is part of his job to evaluate the status of his players.

Also looking up injury history, from info I've gathered, looks like Sam has only been injured while playing for the Flyers. So unless he magically broke on us doesn't seem to be injury prone

 

[let it ride]

Well see John is the coach of the Flyers. He's the one who decides who gets to play. Now if the Flyers org erroneously green lit Ersson to play, and John chooses him to play, then John would share in the blame of Ersson getting hurt. It is his job to evaluate the status of his players.

Also looking up injury history, from info I've gathered, looks like Sam has only been injured while playing for the Flyers. So unless he magically broke on us doesn't seem to be injury prone

So how is that the coach's fault? Unless you're saying the coach knew in this hypothetical example. Sam shown no signs of being hurt in his prior games, did he?

How many times has he been injured while on the Flyers? That is really all that matters.

 

[renberg]

If he is injured, then he shouldn’t dress. Do you agree? The coach is playing the cards he is dealt. Just not faulting the coach for his injury is all. If it is a reaggravation, how is that the coaches fault?

I would expect a coach to know which players are injured and which ones are healthy. I would expect a coach to know what injury a player has if they are hurt. I would expect them to know when they should be put on the ice or not both for the contest at hand and for the future. I would not expect a coach to tell the press that an injured player's injury is a mental one. There is a time to be quiet. Tortorella doesn't understand that. He's incompetent.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

So how is that the coach's fault? Unless you're saying the coach knew in this hypothetical example. Sam shown no signs of being hurt in his prior games, did he?

How many times has he been injured while on the Flyers? That is really all that matters.

If you had chose to keep reading instead of just immediately replying to the first thing you saw you'd know the answer.

And if it only matters how many time he's been hurt while with the Flyers then that would strengthen the argument that they would be to blame for his injuries. If he had a history of being injured before playing with the Flyers then they would be less accountable, like with Neuvirth. Happy to help.

 

[let it ride]

I would expect a coach to know which players are injured and which ones are healthy. I would expect a coach to know what injury a player has if they are hurt. I would expect them to know when they should be put on the ice or not both for the contest at hand and for the future. I would not expect a coach to tell the press that an injured player's injury is a mental one. There is a time to be quiet. Tortorella doesn't understand that. He's incompetent.

He played how many games this month with no issues? So, was he hurt all month?

There are several things to place blame on the head coach and his staff. This to me isn’t one of them.

 

[renberg]

He played how many games this month with no issues? So, was he hurt all month?

There are several things to place blame on the head coach and his staff. This to me isn’t one of them.

Have a nice day.

 

[let it ride]

If you had chose to keep reading instead of just immediately replying to the first thing you saw you'd know the answer.

And if it only matters how many time he's been hurt while with the Flyers then that would strengthen the argument that they would he to blame for his injuries. If he had a history of being injured before playing with the Flyers then they would be less accountable, like with Neuvirth. Happy to help.

I get it. The head coach is to blame for Sam being hurt. Glad you could help.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

I get it. The head coach is to blame for Sam being hurt. Glad you could help.

You're welcome

 

[Beef Invictus]

Benefit of the doubt sure is warranted after the Couturier thing last year.

Yeah, after watching that and Farabee I don't know how anyone can put any trust in Flyers medical staff or coaches.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Just happy we couldn’t move the vanilla boys in Farabee or Frost in some kind of overall Askarov package.

 

[ybnvs]

Seems like a lot of misplaced blame for what could be an injury prone goalie.

Interesting...

So the coach is overplaying an injury-prone goalie.

Do you see what I see?

 

[let it ride]

Interesting...

So the coach is overplaying an injury-prone goalie.

Do you see what I see?

What I see is much diff than what you and others see in this case. It is all the coaches fault he got hurt. My apologies.

 

[zizbuka]

It is off base to blame the coach for him getting injured. He was deemed healthy. The coach played him.


Not sure how one can say he has been great. How are you defining great? Who else has been great based on your definition?

Great doesn't always mean greatness. In this case it's more like "above expectations". He's been hustling, working hard to get pucks and skating back on defense. Far from the whipping boy some think he should be.

Wait, did braindead create another account........