GDT: #36 | Flyers at Ducks | Saturday, December 28, 2024 | 4:00 PM | NBCSP, 97.5 FM

[BillDineen]

It could be that the schedule is overwhelming. It could also be that MM plays like Messi in that he uses the slower pace to read the ice and then uses burst when he gets the puck and they are not getting him the puck at all. On top of that, not using bursts on defense is what Torts would be focused on anyway.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

It’s been made clear that the style of play that Torts requires is physically taxing. North south game and a ton of time spent in their own zone defending and blocking shots. It’s why you saw the results early on last season, and one of the reasons why they burned out so badly at the tail end. It’s not a winning recipe and because he’s a terrible, anti-innovation coach, it’s literally the only thing Torts knows. Probably part of the reason Michkov is not thriving.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Any West Coast win is a good win.
And beating Anaheim helps our draft position.'

lol no

 

[Beef Invictus]

This to a T, how many Tippett plays were completely ridiculous trying to undress 3 guys alone and losing posession instantly, bone headed passes, yet he gets double shifted. It's garbage and there's no accountability for the select few that Torts is obsessed with, if you're gonna bench Michkov and look like an ass, at least be consistent.



He's nowhere near close to top 5 on the team in "hands" or ability with the puck, he's good at getting loose pucks, that's it. Comments like that make me think you have an IV with grain alcohol pumping into you bro. Come on.

Immediately calls to mind that PP turnover where he conducted a slow spinning pass that was brutally telegraphed and easily picked off.

There are multiple players who would sit a period or two or three or five for that. He didn't miss a second. It says nothing good that the team is actively hunting for any opportunity to punish guys like Frost and Michkov while glamorizing Tippett/Cates/Laughton.

 

[freakydallas13]

Immediately calls to mind that PP turnover where he conducted a slow spinning pass that was brutally telegraphed and easily picked off.

There are multiple players who would sit a period or two or three or five for that. He didn't miss a second. It says nothing good that the team is actively hunting for any opportunity to punish guys like Frost and Michkov while glamorizing Tippett/Cates/Laughton.

Authentics never rag on Tippet for his horrible turnovers or play killing moves, but love to do it for other players like Frost.

Curious, that.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Authentics never rag on Tippet for his horrible turnovers or play killing moves, but love to do it for other players like Frost.

Curious, that.

Not only was Tippet not punished yesterday, he was promoted to top line with Couts and TK

 

[ponder719]

Not only was Tippet not punished yesterday, he was promoted to top line with Couts and TK

Tippett's one of Torts's boys, he's only ever going to get Kovalev punished, not real punished.

 

[kudymen]

Cant everyone just finally be happy with mediocrity?! Why dont you stop being fans?!

 

[MJL66]

Cant everyone just finally be happy with mediocrity?! Why dont you stop being fans?!

Why would anyone possibly he happy with mediocrity? It is the worst spot you can be as a rebuilding team in the NHL.

 

[Boocowski]

Love how some people still find ways to back a shitty team going no where. So those people

lol, you back them cause they are who they are you and you backed them when you were younger. You know that, that's why you are still here. You can't leave and find a new team. You know that. If you could you already would have.
So be miserable or have some fun with it. Choice is yours.

 

[Boocowski]

They got outplayed by Anaheim and got bailed by their goalie (the good version of Ersson still exists in there somewhere! Huzzah!). If seeing the team have serious success beyond meaningless regular season wins is your goal, then that's ominous. It's ok to face facts.

No, that's not my goal. I just don't see the gratification in reveling in their failures the way some people do. I'd rather they slowly got better and gave me some entertainment along the way than hoping they crash and burn so you can maybe get a new guy to do it a way you prefer (which you might not get, you might get worse).

I don't want to be Buffalo and if we keep firing people and tearing it down that's what we will be. Forever on the outside.

Yep...it is pretty bad here.....I am sure if we won the Cup, most of the group here would still find something to complain about.....

I can see it now. Well ya we won but we should have swept them and not taken 7 games to do it. They blew game 5. Stupid team and now all their free agents are going to want more money how are we going to manage that? You can picture it.

 

[kudymen]

Why would anyone possibly he happy with mediocrity? It is the worst spot you can be as a rebuilding team in the NHL.

I have been making sarcastic jokes about this approach since 2011 and wont stop now.

I can see it now. Well ya we won but we should have swept them and not taken 7 games to do it. They blew game 5. Stupid team and now all their free agents are going to want more money how are we going to manage that? You can picture it.

 

[Boocowski]

Why would anyone possibly he happy with mediocrity? It is the worst spot you can be as a rebuilding team in the NHL.

Nobody is, but it's still better than being at the bottom. The idea that tanking to the bottom will get you better faster has to be debunked by now doesn't it? Buffalo's still a loser team. Chicago isn't any good. Anaheim still sucks. Just being terrible for a few years doesn't get you far.

I like the bones of this roster better than a lot of the mediocre teams. I think we are only a few top players away. Maybe that's optimistic but I think it's true.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Nobody is, but it's still better than being at the bottom. The idea that tanking to the bottom will get you better faster has to be debunked by now doesn't it? Buffalo's still a loser team. Chicago isn't any good. Anaheim still sucks. Just being terrible for a few years doesn't get you far.

I like the bones of this roster better than a lot of the mediocre teams. I think we are only a few top players away. Maybe that's optimistic but I think it's true.

Few top players? You mean adding someone like Ristolainen, Hayes, Drysdale or Tippett?

 

[bennysflyers16]

Nobody is, but it's still better than being at the bottom. The idea that tanking to the bottom will get you better faster has to be debunked by now doesn't it? Buffalo's still a loser team. Chicago isn't any good. Anaheim still sucks. Just being terrible for a few years doesn't get you far.

I like the bones of this roster better than a lot of the mediocre teams. I think we are only a few top players away. Maybe that's optimistic but I think it's true.

Being the 13 th worst team is the worst spot to be.

There is zero progression this year so far.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

lol, you back them cause they are who they are you and you backed them when you were younger. You know that, that's why you are still here. You can't leave and find a new team. You know that. If you could you already would have.
So be miserable or have some fun with it. Choice is yours.

Yea you're right I'm still here cause they are my favorite team. What a crime it is to want my favorite team to actually get better and not be content with a win against another shit ass team. I'm choosing to be miserable as opposed to ignoring the glaring problems with the org top to bottom cause yay they won a hockey game. I guess I'll just never be happy

 

[ponder719]

I like the bones of this roster better than a lot of the mediocre teams. I think we are only a few top players away. Maybe that's optimistic but I think it's true.

Here's the catch: how do you add a few top players? Can't do it all in FA, the kind of players we need don't come cheap enough to add enough of them. Can't reliably do it with mediocre picks, not unless you have magic scouts who can see the future as clearly as the present.

So what's the path, other than getting those top picks that turn into your McDavids or Eichels or Ovechkins or Michkovs?

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Imagine how much faster Ovi would've broken Gretzky's record if Glen Hanlon had repeatedly benched him and slashed his ice time in December 2005.

 

[ellja3]

One of the best organizations, Jesus Christ...

 

[CerpinTaxt]

Nobody is, but it's still better than being at the bottom. The idea that tanking to the bottom will get you better faster has to be debunked by now doesn't it? Buffalo's still a loser team. Chicago isn't any good. Anaheim still sucks. Just being terrible for a few years doesn't get you far.

I like the bones of this roster better than a lot of the mediocre teams. I think we are only a few top players away. Maybe that's optimistic but I think it's true.

Chicago went thru winning 3 cups in 5 years cause they sucked and got to draft top talent so you're argument is flawed there. Pittsburgh was another team who also won 3 cups from top talent they drafted while being shit. LA won two cups after being shit. Tampa went to 3 finals and won 2 cups from a core of players they drafted in the aughts after they were shit. Edmonton was finally able to get somewhere after drafting really elite players, which they sucked to get to. Really Buffalo is the only team who hasn't been able to translate poor performance into better teams.

You wanna know how the candiens won 4 cups in the late 70s? It's cause they traded aging star players to expansion teams for their top picks. Robinson, Lafleur, tremblay, Shutt, Gainey all players drafted from a trade. They had 11 first rd picks between 70-74 an average of just over 2 1st rd picks per year. And this wasn't a team that sucked but a team that understood that drafting talent was the key. The same philosophy that the early Flyers team had.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

One of the best organizations, Jesus Christ...

TDA has the hockey IQ of a turnip

 

[MJL66]

No, that's not my goal. I just don't see the gratification in reveling in their failures the way some people do. I'd rather they slowly got better and gave me some entertainment along the way than hoping they crash and burn so you can maybe get a new guy to do it a way you prefer (which you might not get, you might get worse).

I don't want to be Buffalo and if we keep firing people and tearing it down that's what we will be. Forever on the outside.


I can see it now. Well ya we won but we should have swept them and not taken 7 games to do it. They blew game 5. Stupid team and now all their free agents are going to want more money how are we going to manage that? You can picture it.

Yea, the last 14 years of irrelevance have been so great. You're acting like what you suggest actually works. It doesn't work. It's not going to work. Are you entertained by a team going nowhere? It amazes how some have the logic to keep bringing up Buffalo while ignoring the success of Chicago, TB, Pittsburgh, LA Colorado and the like. You don't see to realize that they are already forever on the outside and if they keep doing what they've been doing. What you suggest, they will be there for enternity.

 

[MJL66]

Nobody is, but it's still better than being at the bottom. The idea that tanking to the bottom will get you better faster has to be debunked by now doesn't it? Buffalo's still a loser team. Chicago isn't any good. Anaheim still sucks. Just being terrible for a few years doesn't get you far.

I like the bones of this roster better than a lot of the mediocre teams. I think we are only a few top players away. Maybe that's optimistic but I think it's true.

Debunked? Heavens no! It is still by far the best method to build a legitimate contending team. Look at the Flyers methods in the cap era. Overall, a complete disaster. Meanwhile teams like SJ, Chicago, and Anaheim are going to soar past the Flyers. It's an elite player driven league. You can't win without it. How do you get that. By picking high in the draft. Look at the potential elite talent that Chicago and SJ has and they're about to both get another potential elite talent. The Flyers are positioned and their future moves are going to further cement that in the worst possible position a team can be in. Middle ground, will soon be capped out and at best a playoff team. Going nowhere. They are way more than a few top players away. They need two centers and probably two defenseman playing at an all star to elite level. By they time they get that, if they do but they won't with their plan. Their best players such as Konecny and Sanheim will be a shadow of what they are now. I applaud your optimism but it's extremely misguided.

 

[Ironmanrulez]

Without reading anthing, watching a whole game for the first time in months.

Gauthier who? He was invisible, not even on the ice in important 5vs3 situations and so on. Iam confident he will never be more than a solid 2 line player. If he can reach that! His shot isnt a weapon in this league. And his iq isnt any better than Tippet´s.

Best Duck player: Radko Gudas! LOVE HIM TO DEATH! OLDSCHOOL AT IT GETS IN TODAYS GAME! WE should never ever traded him! Miss you bro!

Farabee worked good and was awarded
Brink worked good and was awarded
Frost played ok and was lucky
Couts is always solid, but i dont see more anymore
Foerster played solid but he lost a step in contrast to last year
Konecny is himself. Like his game, a bit unlucky in this one.
Cates is on a heater loosing every important bully! He cant be a center in my book! Let him get important defensive minutes without being a center!


Seeler useless with a lot of failure.
Fisto useless with a lot of failure.
Zamula is too prone to failure and passive defensive play
Tippett shows how horrendous he is! NEVER EVER SAW A PLAYER THAT IS THAT ONE DIMENSIONAL!


PP is horrendous as always!

Ersson had a good game


Coaching is bad as always!

f*** the coach
f*** the process
f*** this franchise

 

[deadhead]

It’s been made clear that the style of play that Torts requires is physically taxing. North south game and a ton of time spent in their own zone defending and blocking shots. It’s why you saw the results early on last season, and one of the reasons why they burned out so badly at the tail end. It’s not a winning recipe and because he’s a terrible, anti-innovation coach, it’s literally the only thing Torts knows. Probably part of the reason Michkov is not thriving.

But they didn't "burn out" last season, they actually put up BETTER metrics after trading Walker and having Seeler injured for most of the remaining season.

The goalies imploded, just like they have this season.
With average goaltending, they end up with 95 points and a playoff berth last season.