Post-Game Talk: #31: FLYERS at Avalanche, Wednesday, Dec. 11, 2019, 9:30 pm ET

[Hollywood Cannon]

At least for once and for the most part "he had no other options" is actually true. Tough spot to be in.

Get healthy and we'll see this team again in February.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Out 4th line out chanced the opponents....top 3 on out team tonight.

Kase 9-4
Pimp 9-4
Stwey 10-5

Meanwhile JVR outchanced a team worst 20-8.

Hold me. Man that’s depressing

 

[BringBackHakstol]

I'm not a jvr hater but he's becoming a pretty big problem.

 

[Striiker]

Out 4th line out chanced the opponents....top 3 on out team tonight.

Kase 9-4
Pimp 9-4
Stwey 10-5

Meanwhile JVR outchanced a team worst 20-8. But didn't get scored on. Bent, didn't break.

Giroux was a beast though.

 

[Jtown]

Out 4th line out chanced the opponents....top 3 on out team tonight.

Kase 9-4
Pimp 9-4
Stwey 10-5

Meanwhile JVR outchanced a team worst 20-8.

lol. He is so f***ing bad. Any advanced stat that says jvr is good at any aspect of hockey is useless.

 

[FlyerNutter]

The injuries thing shouldn’t be an excuse. Other clubs also have injuries to their players.

They lost against an Avs team that also had some. So be it.

Can’t let this become a slide. It’s just frustrating to me to see the Avalanche really be a team on the rise. They also have been arguably just as shitty as the Flyers for a while, but they actually fully committed to a tear down.

 

[bennysflyers16]

I'm not a jvr hater but he's becoming a pretty big problem.

I actually like JVR, but he is officially a problem. Don’t want him in top 6, and skill set doesn’t jive with bottom 6

 

[Tripod]

time for bed

 

[Ginger Papa]

Hold me. Man that’s depressing

 

[Sombastate]

Someone needs to dig through Hagg’s old tweets. He has to have said something problematic. Maybe quoted lyrics he shouldn’t...

who has spare time?

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Thought Couturier and Provorov were their best players.

Frost and JVR absolutely abominable.

The 4th line actually did its job.

Hayes had some nice offensive plays and multiple really bad defensive ones.

But, with 4 regulars out, including their 2 top goal scorers, and flying into Denver to play one of the league's best teams, I expected a loss. Wasn't a bad effort.

 

[Striiker]

The injuries thing shouldn’t be an excuse. Other clubs also have injuries to their players.

They lost against an Avs team that also had some. So be it.

Can’t let this become a slide.

We have a double whammy though. We lose the positives of the guys who are injured and they're replaced by guys who are massive negatives.

 

[Stizzle]

Highest xGF% 5v5 fancy stats tonight...

Vorobyev 79.7%
Kase 79.7%

... while playing on a line with Stewie. You're welcome.

 

[bennysflyers16]

The injuries thing shouldn’t be an excuse. Other clubs also have injuries to their players.

They lost against an Avs team that also had some. So be it.

Can’t let this become a slide.

Pens have been winning all year with more.
Same as Avs and most other teams.

Our starts have to be better and we need to bury our chances when we are trailing

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

so when is the roster freeze and can we do something before it lol

Dec. 20 is the starting date.

 

[bennysflyers16]

We have a double whammy though. We lose the positives of the guys who are injured and they're replaced by guys who are massive negatives.

They weren’t tonight tho.

 

[Striiker]

They weren’t tonight tho.

Hagg was the worst player on the ice for either team, by miles and miles and miles.

And Stewart was still a massive negative, even if he got carried and his stats don't reflect his individual play.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Highest xGF% 5v5 fancy stats tonight...

Vorobyev 79.7%
Kase 79.7%

... while playing on a line with Stewie. You're welcome.

What’s the odds of that happening ?

I would of gave you 1000/1 before the game.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I mean we swapped out Konecny, Lindblom, & Myers for Kase, Stewart, & Hagg tonight. That’s a god awful trade out.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Hagg was the worst player on the ice for either team, by miles and miles and miles.

For D sure, not reason we lost tho.

Jvr gave him a run for his money tho

 

[Jtown]

this is where i get concerned if I am the flyers. How does this team get better? Before one could hang their hat on Frost and Farabee being called up. But they are up. There is no one to call up. This roster is not good enough and all those years of having the best prospects well they are all up now and we still aren't good enough. The only hope this team has is if Nolan Patrick comes back and becomes our number 1 center.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Hayes line poor, Hagg poor. If you want to see stats lying JVR was +0 and if not for hart he would have been -3. Niskanen 3rd goal coverage brutal. Team speed is so different in this game. Also notice how when colorado makes a pass it hot fast and tight while we try to make drop pass and hold our breath half the time.

 

[FlyerNutter]

We have a double whammy though. We lose the positives of the guys who are injured and they're replaced by guys who are massive negatives.

Very much agree. There isn’t a whole lot of depth to this club. The reasoning that they “already called up their depth” isn’t a correct one in my eyes. The kids should have been penciled in to play anyway.

It just is what it is. It’s a team where the smallest things do matter, because they aren’t really an upper tier club.

Surprising. I know. Its just frustrating for me to play the Avs. Frustrating to me to watch them truly rise, because it’s what I hoped the Flyers would become.

Get the next game, and get back on whatever track this is. Minnesota is on a hot streak but they aren’t a team that will sustain it.

 

[Striiker]

For D sure, not reason we lost tho.

Jvr gave him a run for his money tho

No one player was the reason we lost, but Hagg did the most to help us lose.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

this is where i get concerned if I am the flyers. How does this team get better? Before one could hang their hat on Frost and Farabee being called up. But they are up. There is no one to call up. This roster is not good enough and all those years of having the best prospects well they are all up now and we still aren't good enough. The only hope this team has is if Nolan Patrick comes back and becomes our number 1 center.

That's a little dramatic