GDT: #30 | Red Wings at Flyers | Thursday, December 12, 2024 | 7:00 PM | NBCSP

[Beef Invictus]

FLYERS: 13-12-4 (5th in Metro)
RED WINGS: 11-13-4 (6th in Atlanto)

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FLYERS LINEUP

Joel Farabee - Sean Couturier - Travis Konecny
Owen Tippett - Morgan Frost - Matvei Michkov
Tyson Foerster - Noah Cates - Bobby Brink
Scott Laughton - Ryan Poehling - Garnet Hathaway

Cam York - Travis Sanheim
Nick Seeler - Jamie Drysdale
Emil Andrae - Rasmus Ristolainen

Ersson
Kolosov

Injuries

Ellis (These have no longer any hope of death;/And this blind life of theirs is so debased,/They envious are of every other fate.)

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RED WINGS LINEUP

Alex DeBrincat - Dylan Larkin - Lucas Raymond
Michael Rasmussen - Marco Kasper - Patrick Kane
Andrew Copp - J.T. Compher - Vladimir Tarasenko
Jonatan Berggren - Tyler Motte - Christian Fischer

Simon Edvinsson - Moritz Seider
Ben Chiarot - Jeff Petry
Erik Gustafsson - Justin Holl

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Husso

Injuries

Talbot (Game Time Decision)
Lyon (DTD)

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[Beef Invictus]

Whoa, DET getting some solid goaltending from the Meh Pile lately. Anyway, if you like songs that tell a story, that live version of Telegraph Road is your thing. And also yet another Dire Straits live song that makes the studio version obsolete.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I will be at this one also.

Expect a team to go up 2+-0 just like every other game I’ve been to so far.

 

[deadhead]

Whoa, DET getting some solid goaltending from the Meh Pile lately. Anyway, if you like songs that tell a story, that live version of Telegraph Road is your thing. And also yet another Dire Straits live song that makes the studio version obsolete.

Great song. It's about Detroit, Telegraph Road is a real road, drove by it every time I went past Detroit on the way to my in-laws on Lake Michigan.

A long time ago came a man on a track
Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back
And he put down his load where he thought it was the best
He made a home in the wilderness
He built a cabin and a winter store
And he ploughed up the ground by the cold lake shore
And the other travellers came walking down the track
And they never went further, no, they never went back

Then came the churches, then came the schools
Then came the lawyers, then came the rules
Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads
And the dirty old track was the Telegraph Road

Then came the mines, then came the ore
Then there was the hard times, then there was a war
Telegraph sang a song about the world outside
Telegraph Road got so deep and so wide
Like a rolling river . . .

Telegraph Road (song) - Wikipedia

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[BiggE]

FLYERS: 13-12-4 (5th in Metro)
RED WINGS: 11-13-4 (6th in Atlanto)

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FLYERS LINEUP

Joel Farabee - Sean Couturier - Travis Konecny
Owen Tippett - Morgan Frost - Matvei Michkov
Tyson Foerster - Noah Cates - Bobby Brink
Scott Laughton - Ryan Poehling - Garnet Hathaway

Cam York - Travis Sanheim
Nick Seeler - Jamie Drysdale
Emil Andrae - Rasmus Ristolainen

Ersson
Kolosov

Injuries

Ellis (These have no longer any hope of death;/And this blind life of theirs is so debased,/They envious are of every other fate.)

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RED WINGS LINEUP

Alex DeBrincat - Dylan Larkin - Lucas Raymond
Michael Rasmussen - Marco Kasper - Patrick Kane
Andrew Copp - J.T. Compher - Vladimir Tarasenko
Jonatan Berggren - Tyler Motte - Christian Fischer

Simon Edvinsson - Moritz Seider
Ben Chiarot - Jeff Petry
Erik Gustafsson - Justin Holl

Talbot*
Husso

Injuries

Talbot (Game Time Decision)
Lyon (DTD)

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The Philadelphia Edsels

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Beyond the top pair thats one fugly defense.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Michkov points and a regulation loss? LETS GOOOO lol.

 

[deadhead]

Detroit a good example of a team that garnered a couple top players by drafting high, then decided "Mission accomplished."

2017: #9 Rasmussen
2018: #6 Zedina, #30 Veleno
2019: #6 Seider
2020: #4 Raymond
2021: #6 Edvivsson, #15 Cossa
2022: #8 Kasper
2023: #9 Danielson, #17 Sandin-Pellikka

Their best player, Larkin, was #15-2014.

Yzerman's major deals:
2/24/20 Gagner, 2020 2nd, 2021 2nd for Athanasiou
9/26/20 Staal, 2021 2nd rd for salary dump
4/12/21 2021 1st, 2022 2nd, Vrana for Mantha
7/6/21 Leddy for Panik, 2021 2nd
3/21/22 2023 2nd, Sundqvist, Wallman for Leddy
7/3/22 Copp, FA 5yr/$5.6M
7/13/22 Chariot, FA 4yr/$4.75M
3/1/23 2023 1st, 2023 2nd for Hronek & 4th
3/2/23 2024 1st, 2025 4th for Bertuzzi

7/1/23 Compher, FA, 5/$5.1M
7/1/23 Holl, FA, 3/$3.4M
7/9/23 DeBrincat for 2024 1st (Boston)
8/15/23 Petry for Lindstrom, 2025 4th
11/28/23 Kane, FA 1yr/$4M
6/25/24 salary dump for Wallman, 2024 2nd
7/1/24 Gustfasson, 2yr/$2M
7/3/24 Tarasenko FA 2/$4.75M

7 picks in the top 10, $30M in free agent contracts, and they're still not a playoff team.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Young Sandwich]

 

[usahockey22flyers]

No idea why Andrae is coming out of the lineup since Torts said it wasn't injury related

Part of me does understand them giving him a day...but idk just not dying to see Zamula again

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Andrae seemed fine, Torts laying down the law.

 

[iceman42]

The game is afoot

 

[deadhead]

Zamula has been fine after a slow start, just needed to speed up his decision making.

I think Torts likes to sit a young player once in a while even when he's happy with the player so they can see the game - it's a different perspective they can take back to the ice.

In the case of Andrae, you also want to pace him, he's undersized and takes a lot of punishment.
And the schedule is more brutal this year b/c of compression due to 4 nations

 

[BiggE]

Zamula has been fine after a slow start, just needed to speed up his decision making.

I think Torts likes to sit a young player once in a while even when he's happy with the player so they can see the game - it's a different perspective they can take back to the ice.

In the case of Andrae, you also want to pace him, he's undersized and takes a lot of punishment.
And the schedule is more brutal this year b/c of compression due to 4 nations

And the defense rests

 

[ponder719]

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Ah, so Charlie talked too highly of him and Torts can't be having any of that. Got it.

 

[Curufinwe]

Torts must have re-noticed Andrae's lack of height, and had an old man panic attack.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

What a world we live in, if Andrae was 6'2" it would be just fine haha.

 

[deadhead]

Torts does this a lot, tries to take pressure off young players.
Did this with Michkov, "he's only 19" b/c even a player that good is going to have dry spells.

The media hype cycle builds up young players and fan expectations, but then turns on young players when they struggle. Farabee is 24, but now the script is he's "underperforming." Kid has been a top 6 scoring forward since he was 21, had a severe neck injury. But why be patient?

Andrae has shown flashes of top 4 talent, but it's one thing to have a dozen good games or so, quite another to sustain it over an 82 game season. Give the kid a year or two to grow into the role.

Look at York two years ago v today, for example.

 

[BiggE]

Torts just can’t resist digging at a player and making everything about himself. He’s a narcissistic asshole.

Giving Andrae an occasional game off to allow him some extra rest and recovery time is fine, but there was no need or justification to publicly criticize his play.

Furthermore, Torts is also a hypocrite.

Laughton’s play has been shit for the entire season. When does he get scratched?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Torts just can’t resist digging at a player and making everything about himself. He’s a narcissistic asshole.

Giving Andrae an occasional game off to allow him some extra rest and recovery time is fine, but there was no need or justification to publicly criticize his play.

Furthermore, Torts is also a hypocrite.

Laughton’s play has been shit for the entire season. When does he get scratched?

exactly.. cowards wont ask him thou...

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Sometime's I hate my life because of this team, but it seems okay because I share the misery with all of you. Minus deadhead, but at least deadhead got a Voracek tweet.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Torts does this a lot, tries to take pressure off young players.
Did this with Michkov, "he's only 19" b/c even a player that good is going to have dry spells.

The media hype cycle builds up young players and fan expectations, but then turns on young players when they struggle. Farabee is 24, but now the script is he's "underperforming." Kid has been a top 6 scoring forward since he was 21, had a severe neck injury. But why be patient?

Andrae has shown flashes of top 4 talent, but it's one thing to have a dozen good games or so, quite another to sustain it over an 82 game season. Give the kid a year or two to grow into the role.

Look at York two years ago v today, for example.

You do know that Tortorella himself has said that Farabee's neck injury isn't an excuse, right? He is the one that was not being patient with Farabee. To the point that KO got involved.

 

[ellja3]

When I saw Zamula is in for Andrae, automatically assumed injury, because why else... Sheeesh... Was about to post here that our remaining December calendar is quite favourable to rack up some points, but yeah, screw this.

Sometime's I hate my life because of this team, but it seems okay because I share the misery with all of you. Minus deadhead, but at least deadhead got a Voracek tweet.

Word!

You do know that Tortorella himself has said that Farabee's neck injury isn't an excuse, right? He is the one that was not being patient with Farabee. To the point that KO got involved.

Just like every coach, he just - to unreasonable extent/justification - dislikes some players (Andrae, Frost) and likes others (Cates, Hathaway, Tippet).