30 Goals Against; Doughty is a -10....

[Axl Rhoadz]

Who cares, the whole team is basically a -10 in overall performance.

 

[King RAZZ]

Just think...Jack "minus forever" Johnson is slowly creeping up to take his title away...

 

[VEGASKING]

Butch 19, it was the great Brian Willsie who scored that goal.


Drew has kind of taken over for Jack. On a team full of defenseman who are a + Jack would not only be a - but a heavy minus. Other than Greene who played 1 game Doughty and Scuderi are the only minuses on the blue line. Voynov is a +7, Muzzin +3, Drewiske +2 and Martinez is 0. +7 and -10 is a huge difference for a full season let alone 11 games.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Nevermind. lol I thought Kopitar scored the goal.

 

[no name]

Sigh. I just really really ****ing hate fantasy hockey for what it's done to the fans. Doughty has been fine. He's really had to change his role a bit. He's got to eat a lot of minutes and play a whole hell of a lot more with Greene and Mitchie out. Plus minus is a useless stat IMO. Has Doughty been Norris Doughty that we all want? No. But he's been fine for the most part.

Plus minus is generaly a useless stat, but drew has been solely responsible for at least four goals this year. his turnovers have been prodigous. Hes tried and its leading to too many turnovers. His defense has been great. Great angles, smart positioning and his blocks are up. His offense is nonexistant which hurts his plus minus. Ill never understand his delayed Shot, waiting for someone to get in front of him. His teammates are not sriving to the net so its pointless. He maybe has 4 wristshots this year. These problema didnt exist two years ago.

 

[LombardiTool]

before DD's draft, who did we get mad at for scoring the goal to win a game that made the Kings slip to #2 and miss out on Stamkos?

Was it Handzus?

Brian Willsie! Good ol Bri'

 

[BigKing]

Pretty sure Kopitar scored the goal late in the 3rd that led to LA drafting #2 that season.

 

[MsMeow]

Sigh. I just really really ****ing hate fantasy hockey for what it's done to the fans. Doughty has been fine. He's really had to change his role a bit. He's got to eat a lot of minutes and play a whole hell of a lot more with Greene and Mitchie out. Plus minus is a useless stat IMO. Has Doughty been Norris Doughty that we all want? No. But he's been fine for the most part.

You and me both. If a player doesn't have points he automatically sucks in the eyes of so many. It's ridiculous.

 

[VEGASKING]

It was Kopitar. Kings beat San Jose 4-2 in the next to last game of the season. Kopitar scored the 3rd and 4th goals. Willsie did score in that game and the final game, half of his goal total for the entire season.


So what dubious goal did he score that we're thinking of?

 

[reset]

DD is playing great

no complaints here

 

[DeeMeck]

It was Willsie, Ivanans, and Ersberg who tried to spoil us getting Doughty. They all played decent those last handful of games. Crawford played Cloutier that last game to ensure a loss. Tampa Bay just happened to lose as well.

That's how I remember it.

 

[KingKopitar11*]

God, Willsie was ****.

 

[johnjm22]

One thing is really starting to get under the skin of Drew Doughty

“I know I’m minus-10 though. But a lot of times that stat doesn’t have a lot to do with what you’re doing on the ice and stuff like that.â€

http://mayorsmanor.com/2013/02/one-thing-is-really-starting-to-get-under-the-skin-of-drew-doughty/

 

[etherialone]

http://mayorsmanor.com/2013/02/one-thing-is-really-starting-to-get-under-the-skin-of-drew-doughty/

I agree with DD.

“I know I’m minus-10 though. But a lot of times that stat doesn’t have a lot to do with what you’re doing on the ice and stuff like that.”



Hammering on DD is flat out lame.

Kid is one of the top Dmen in the game today. Young D constantly swapping partner. Is the PMD of his pair and now being asked to a bit of everything which he does but is paired with kids and or with players who have tried to do too much to compensate for the losses of other players but sure, it all falls at DD's feet.

Stupid.

 

[Kingspiracy]

“He’s a young defenseman, so what has changed?†Sutter began. “He’s got a lot to learn. No different than all the rest. Our oldest defenseman is Scuderi who is supposed to be a real good defensive player. Our next oldest is Drewiske. He’s 28 and learning how to play. And the other guys are all kids. Don’t single Drew Doughty out as the only player that has got a lot to learn. He’s been put in a different situation this year than he has at any other point in his career.â€

This quote caught my eye in that article, seems a little harsh

 

[The Tikkanen]

Has he been as bad as his stats line? No. Is he helping the Kings win games with no goals and a minus 10? No. He needs to step it up, stop hesitating before he shoots and always make the smart play, time to simplify his game.

 

[InjuredChoker]

How has he been lately?

 

[etherialone]

Of active players DD plays the second most minutes at 26:16 and is a -5. Sutter is ahead of him in mins played but is a minus -6.

DD has been our #1d all season long and has had to mentor several different players. It is his 5th season in the NHL and he is 23 years old.

If anything I think that DD under these circumstances should be being considered as a Norris Candidate instead of having his play come into question.

 

[LombardiTool]

Of active players DD plays the second most minutes at 26:16 and is a -5. Sutter is ahead of him in mins played but is a minus -6.

DD has been our #1d all season long and has had to mentor several different players. It is his 5th season in the NHL and he is 23 years old.

If anything I think that DD under these circumstances should be being considered as a Norris Candidate instead of having his play come into question.

Last 9 games he has been +6. He has been playing much better as of late. I think conditioning will always be a problem with Doughty as will slow starts.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Last 9 games he has been +6. He has been playing much better as of late. I think conditioning will always be a problem with Doughty as will slow starts.

Not sure how you can imply conditioning was an issue from the start this season. The reports from camp were that he was in some of the best shape ever coming into a season. The problem was that he was playing upwards of 30 minutes a game against the toughest competition of each team. Of course he's not going to look perfect while doing that.

 

[Inner Turbulence]

Not sure how you can imply conditioning was an issue from the start this season. The reports from camp were that he was in some of the best shape ever coming into a season. The problem was that he was playing upwards of 30 minutes a game against the toughest competition of each team. Of course he's not going to look perfect while doing that.

Not to mention he's probably been on the ice for a number of Empty Net goals against. He's always on the ice at the end of games when we're trailing. Seems to have been quite a few of those this season (he said without checking the stats to back up his claim).

 

[KingKopitar11*]

Our goaltending has been spotty just like our team D, of course his stats are gonna look bad. Ever since bernier got more games his stats got better. It's a team game, his stats make it look like he's the only one doing bad but the defense and goaltending have been also, he just takes majority flak cause he's out there the most.