Speculation: 2C Options

[Hockeyfan200]

Who are you going to replace Rossi with in the 2C spot once he is traded?

Breo

Duchene - Dallas has gotta be his favorite to sign but they will have to make moves. Dumba for example can be moved to create space.

Tavares - Sounds like he wants to stay in Toronto

Donato - is he just a left Winger now? (Chicago player for those that don't know)

Nelson - he's going to get paid!

Granlund - I'd be careful on how much he gets paid but if a team needs a playmaker and can afford to give him good zone starts will produce.

Giroux - ???

Sam Bennett - Florida has to be a favorite but they may not have the cap space for him.

Then we go into 3Cs like

Pius Suter, Roslovic etc.

The NHL right now is lacking top 6 centers.

Nelson is going to MN. Bill Guerin has essentially mad eit known Nelson is to get . Nelson also wants to be back home

 

[boredmale]

Who are you going to replace Rossi with in the 2C spot once he is traded?

Brock Nelson?

Personally if I am Minnesota have have reservations about Rossi's size I move him to wing and don't trade him. He just seems to have Martin St Louis vibes about him.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Yep, this isn't the year for Calgary to make a move imo. If anything they should be looking at trading Backlund and Kadri if the market is this strong.

I'd love Bennett back on the team but I know it would be an objectively terrible decision.

A good example is Bennett. You know that next contract will age badly, however for 2 or 3 years you might get some value from it (50 pts in regular season then value in the post season). Then the last 4 or 5 years it will be an albatross. Nelson is similar. You might get a year or 2 of 2C level play before he falls off a cliff.

For teams that have a 2 or 3 year cup window, it makes sense to overpay for short term gain. For teams with a longterm window like the Habs / Flames etc. it would be an unforced error of epic proportions and create cap issues down the road.

 

[MNRube]

Whoever they replaced him with in the playoffs

Presumably Brock Nelson but Hartman/Yurov are the most likely internal solutions if Nelson doesn’t get signed and Rossi isn’t traded for a C.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Presumably Brock Nelson but Hartman/Yurov are the most likely internal solutions if Nelson doesn’t get signed and Rossi isn’t traded for a C.

Would be smart for Minny to sign Nelson and then trade Rossi at the highest value he every could be.

 

[MNRube]

Would be smart for Minny to sign Nelson and then trade Rossi at the highest value he every could be.

Not sure I agree, but I think that’s the most likely outcome. I have reservations about Rossi being worth a big extension longterm, but he wasn’t deployed in a manner to maximize his trade value. A surprising amount of his production came away from Kaprizov

 

[go4hockey]

Byfield

Is not available.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Kuch in his comments went out of his way to say this, which implies he thinks it and didn't say it because he was asked a dumb question.
Players peak has a bigger range these days, but saying Hagel has peaked already when he's 26 feels far fetched when he's been constantly improving season after season.
He'll have a 100 points season in the next couple of years, especially if he'll play with more offensive talented linemates than Cirelli and whoever filled the revolving door 2RW spot for Tampa this season

Again, it’s his teammate. He likes the guy. I wouldn’t take it as gospel.

And again, I’m not saying Hagel won’t score more points if put in the right situations or with the right shooting luck. I’m saying his overall impact has likely peaked. I don’t measure overall impact by scoring totals.

 

[BaileyFan]

Not sure if he’d be considered a legit 2C by many but the Kings should be shopping Danault.

 

[CanMerc]

What would TBL want from WPG for Cirelli

 

[biturbo19]

It really is basically...

Sam Bennett: if he actually leaves Florida for a Brinks truck payday.

Brock Nelson: probably just ends up in Minnesota.

Matt Duchene: can't see him leaving Dallas where he's found a terrific fit.

John Tavares: PJ Boy is hard to see leaving the Leafs.

Mikael Granlund: not really a contender caliber Top-6C.

Ryan Donato: sucker bait who had a wild outlier career year at 28 or whatever on a terrible team where someone has to score.



Then via trade it's basically...

Marco Rossi: basically cancels because that'd almost certainly mean they landed Brock Nelson.

Trevor Zegras: if a team wants to pay big for a risky proposition and if the Ducks brass don't think he's big enough, tough enough, plays the right way enough.

Matt Barzal: if the Isles really want to retool and free up some cap to play with now the Lou is gone.




There's just...like half the league looking for another Top-6 Center right now. And that list above isn't even close to satisfying the demand. That's why half the posts on this trade board these days are just...proposals for trying to make a deal for a guy who isn't even likely to be available to plug that 2C hole. Too many teams on the cusp, bubble teams even, and lacking a bonafide Top-6C.

 

[shello]

Kings aren’t trading Byfield

They shouldn’t, but you really don’t know with that management group. New GM or not

 

[shello]

lol again. Schenn is a very low end 2c. All the wingers but Kyrou are meh. D core is solid but far from extraordinary. Binnington is a joke.

They’re 4th-5th in the Central for the foreseeable future, but sure cup contenders. Lol

The Robert Thomas disrespect

 

[NYRnine94]

Duchene - Dallas has gotta be his favorite to sign but they will have to make moves. Dumba for example can be moved to create space.

Tavares - Sounds like he wants to stay in Toronto

Donato - is he just a left Winger now? (Chicago player for those that don't know)

Nelson - he's going to get paid!

Granlund - I'd be careful on how much he gets paid but if a team needs a playmaker and can afford to give him good zone starts will produce.

Giroux - ???

Sam Bennett - Florida has to be a favorite but they may not have the cap space for him.

Then we go into 3Cs like

Pius Suter, Roslovic etc.

The NHL right now is lacking top 6 centers.

It's ok. We have a secret one stashed away at RW in Mika. Bidding starts now

 

[biturbo19]

It's ok. We have a secret one stashed away at RW in Mika. Bidding starts now

Zibby has a full NMC on a bad contract coming off a seriously concerning down year. He's not going anywhere.

 

[ole ole]

It really is basically...

Sam Bennett: if he actually leaves Florida for a Brinks truck payday.

Brock Nelson: probably just ends up in Minnesota.

Matt Duchene: can't see him leaving Dallas where he's found a terrific fit.

John Tavares: PJ Boy is hard to see leaving the Leafs.

Mikael Granlund: not really a contender caliber Top-6C.

Ryan Donato: sucker bait who had a wild outlier career year at 28 or whatever on a terrible team where someone has to score.



Then via trade it's basically...

Marco Rossi: basically cancels because that'd almost certainly mean they landed Brock Nelson.

Trevor Zegras: if a team wants to pay big for a risky proposition and if the Ducks brass don't think he's big enough, tough enough, plays the right way enough.

Matt Barzal: if the Isles really want to retool and free up some cap to play with now the Lou is gone.




There's just...like half the league looking for another Top-6 Center right now. And that list above isn't even close to satisfying the demand. That's why half the posts on this trade board these days are just...proposals for trying to make a deal for a guy who isn't even likely to be available to plug that 2C hole. Too many teams on the cusp, bubble teams even, and lacking a bonafide Top-6C.

Barzal at the right price would interest me but because of C's the prices for a C should be going up. If the Islanders are looking for futures the Habs have lots in prospects and picks.

 

[NYRnine94]

Zibby has a full NMC on a bad contract coming off a seriously concerning down year. He's not going anywhere.

I know, let me dream please

 

[biturbo19]

Barzal at the right price would interest me but because of C's the prices for a C should be going up. If the Islanders are looking for futures the Habs have lots in prospects and picks.

Habs are certainly well positioned in terms of the few trade options, with tons of futures to offer. If they decide to go that direction. They're also in a position where their core is still quite young. They could very plausibly just sit it out and wait to see if some better options emerge next year or beyond, or if something internally comes along via draft and develop. But there's also that constant Habs pressure to move things along and compete. Especially making the playoffs...there's obviously going to be huge pressure next year, to surpass that. Take another step forward...which pretty much has to come from finding a real 2C...combined with hopefully more growth (or at least, no regression) from the young core guys, plus adding Demidov all year.

 

[biturbo19]

I know, let me dream please

Fair enough. Carry on with the dream.

 

[Guitpik]

They shouldn’t, but you really don’t know with that management group. New GM or not

He sells off the future of this team, tickets are going to be a hard sell.

 

[landy]

The Robert Thomas disrespect

In a previous post here, I give him praise. He’s legit. Kyrou too. Everyone else is meh. Poor man’s stars.