Salary Cap: '25-'26 There's no cap thread so I made this low effort attempt

[SEALBound]

Larkin could work in Florida if they scrimp on other things and trade out ERod. The idea of getting Cossa and Florida sending 9ov there is quite interesting. If they add Larkin, whose age/prime fits, I don't see how they aren't the instant favorites for the next 2-3 years.

That's what I'm getting at, Seal. I think probably a majority of the GMs aren't really good at their jobs, they just succeed because of lucking into good-to-great players.

It's also why I really dislike when GMs are in these wierd situations where the clubs can't fire them and try somebody new.

Probably not, no. But also, there's no need for him to do Stevie Y's job for him.

Both good and bad have lucked into good players and not and success obviously varies. It's a tough league honestly. Again, we underestimate how much "luck" is really involved.

lol

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

The lesson here is for GMs to start playing hardball with NMCs on long-term deals.

Hahaha- these idiot GM's and Owners never learn a damn thing.

Remember the Wild owner (can't remember his name) courting Parise and Suter, telling them "name your price and we'll make sure this happens". Then 1 year later that same dumbass owner is bellyaching and moaning about how player salaries are out of control and we need a cap and we'll lock these greedy players out.

As if he wasn't Exhibit A off the clownishness.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

The lesson here is for GMs to start playing hardball with NMCs on long-term deals.

It really is all about this. And with the cap going up, you can't say: "well, to keep the AAV down we have to give a NMC." Bullshit. Give the player even more money than he deserves. But if it goes south, you can trade him anywhere you want for whatever you need.

 

[JackFr]

Player of Larkin's calibre have never not been given trade protection in the cap era. This is not an example of a crazy trade clause given to a mid-tier player.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Maybe. I have no idea what he's like off the ice.

Oh, I'll give you a little glimpse.

My nephew lived in upstate NY and it was circa 2012 when his travel team came to play Little Caesars in a tournament around where I lived. Didn't realize it at the time, but Draper was coaching his son. I know that coaches can be absolutely boorish, but Draper took it to a whole new level of screaming at the refs and went so far as to bang a stick against the bench repeatedly. Refs were either scared or star struck bc they didn't do anything to quell that behavior.

Nephew was in another tournament the following year in Cleveland and Draper's team was playing in the game before my nephews so I caught the last period. Same nonsensical and unhinged behavior by him on the bench. I mean the dude was maniacal. I thought about making a Claude Lemieux (RIP) joke but worried he'd walk across the ice, crawl over the glass to start a fight with me. He's an absolute asshole of the highest magnitude.

So yes, f*** Kris Draper. He's lucky he got traded to Detroit or he'd be just another dude who toiled for Winnipeg

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I don't understand why Florida would want Larkin. I mean, sure they would take him but they need a goaltender and probably need to use whatever precious assets they have (No. 9 overall; Mackie Samoskevich et al) to acquire that. They proved they could win with Barkov, Bennett and Lundell down the middle. Is an $8.7 million/year third-line center what they need? Would Larkin be better than Lundell in the role they would have for him? I mean, I know Larkin sounds like someone who would rather get paid as a star but hide behind better players, but still.

VGK I get. They want anyone and everyone. And Minny is pretty desperate for centers for sure. But Florida? And why would Yzerman trade him there, and then watch Florida dominate his own division again? Makes little sense imo.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Player of Larkin's calibre have never not been given trade protection in the cap era. This is not an example of a crazy trade clause given to a mid-tier player.

You are missing the point, which is not that Larkin is a bad player.

The point is that the way contracts work in the league.. age/length of deal/timing/$ amounts/hockey culture… all lead to an environment where it makes a lot of sense to trade stability and surety for maxing out dollars. Why would I try and do short term deals if I can lock in $8MX8 and get a guaranteed $64M and get trade protection. Rather than trying to maybe make $80-90M over same period over 2 contracts but it’s more uncertain and maybe l only get a 20 team NTC vs a NMC.

At those dollar amounts your life is no different and you get peace of mind.

not like the NBA per se, where contracts don’t go as long even if you wanted stability and the dollar amounts are so big that a 20% increase to the cap could mean extra $10M / year in your pocket. Salarymaxxing could net you $30-50 mil in 4 years. In the NHL it might be an extra 10-20 mil unless you’re McDavid.

 

[TojoP]

They're apparently not re-signing Bobrovsky

Even if they aren't, getting another goalie should probably be a bigger priority for Florida than adding Larkin when you have Barkov, Lundell, and Bennett down the middle.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Even if they aren't, getting another goalie should probably be a bigger priority for Florida than adding Larkin when you have Barkov, Lundell, and Bennett down the middle.

I think they can get a goalie as a part of the Larkin trade. Detroit has Cossa who is likely getting traded.

I think Lundell and pick #9 for Larkin and Cossa makes a lot of sense on paper.

 

[TojoP]

I think they can get a goalie as a part of the Larkin trade. Detroit has Cossa who is likely getting traded.

I think Lundell and pick #9 for Larkin and Cossa makes a lot of sense on paper.

It could. If I'm Florida I think I just keep Lundell because he's 5 years younger. Adding Cossa though could make this a good direction I'll admit though.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I bet Brady Tkachuk asks for a trade too lol

 

[DesertedPenguin]

I think they can get a goalie as a part of the Larkin trade. Detroit has Cossa who is likely getting traded.

I think Lundell and pick #9 for Larkin and Cossa makes a lot of sense on paper.

I'd rather have Lundell and #9.

Yes, Larkin is the more productive player. But Lundell fits Florida's style and mentality.

 

[Koivunsons]

I'd rather have Lundell and #9.

Yes, Larkin is the more productive player. But Lundell fits Florida's style and mentality.

I don’t think Florida is giving up Lundell and 9th. And I don’t think Detroit is making a Larkin trade to someone in the Atlantic.

 

[Fordy]

lol

please god this will be so funny

 

[BrookswasHere44]

I think they can get a goalie as a part of the Larkin trade. Detroit has Cossa who is likely getting traded.

I think Lundell and pick #9 for Larkin and Cossa makes a lot of sense on paper.

Lundell isn't getting traded imo

 

[HandshakeLine]

Get McDavid out of there, man. What the hell

He likes it, the pervert.

 

[SEALBound]

I don't understand why Florida would want Larkin. I mean, sure they would take him but they need a goaltender and probably need to use whatever precious assets they have (No. 9 overall; Mackie Samoskevich et al) to acquire that. They proved they could win with Barkov, Bennett and Lundell down the middle. Is an $8.7 million/year third-line center what they need? Would Larkin be better than Lundell in the role they would have for him? I mean, I know Larkin sounds like someone who would rather get paid as a star but hide behind better players, but still.

Because it fortifies their "best in the east" position. What they'd likely be doing is trading ERod out for Larkin in.

Verhaeghe-Barkov-Tkachuk
Bennett-Larkin-Reinhart
Luostarinen-Lundell-Marchand

I mean...jesus.

It could. If I'm Florida I think I just keep Lundell because he's 5 years younger. Adding Cossa though could make this a good direction I'll admit though.

Maybe. Larkin fits right in with Tkachuk, Bennett, Barkov, etc. That core will grow old together and like us, when they are done, Lundell alone ain't gonna keep them afloat. I say they go for it.

 

[eXile3]

Because it fortifies their "best in the east" position. What they'd likely be doing is trading ERod out for Larkin in.

Verhaeghe-Barkov-Tkachuk
Bennett-Larkin-Reinhart
Luostarinen-Lundell-Marchand

I mean...jesus.

Maybe. Larkin fits right in with Tkachuk, Bennett, Barkov, etc. That core will grow old together and like us, when they are done, Lundell alone ain't gonna keep them afloat. I say they go for it.

Will Larkin get 3 minutes of PP time though? 24 of his points came from the PP.

ERod is also probably not enough for Larkin.

 

[SEALBound]

Will Larkin get 3 minutes of PP time though? 24 of his points came from the PP.

ERod is also probably not enough for Larkin.

You could put together 2 lethal powerplays. At that point, I don't think Florida or Larkin care. Larkin isn't wanting out so that he can go to a contender to inflate his stats. He wants to win.

ERod alone, no. I liked the Larkin+Cossa for Lundell+9ov suggestion. They could add ERod to that to help with cap or I believe they could easily trade ERod out to a 3rd team.

 

[eXile3]

You could put together 2 lethal powerplays. At that point, I don't think Florida or Larkin care. Larkin isn't wanting out so that he can go to a contender to inflate his stats. He wants to win.

ERod alone, no. I liked the Larkin+Cossa for Lundell+9ov suggestion. They could add ERod to that to help with cap or I believe they could easily trade ERod out to a 3rd team.

So you’ll trade Lundell and the 9th for a player you’ll turn into a low 50, high 40 point producer once his PP time is lowered. Oh and he’s 30.

For me it would be one or the other. A package of one of them, both seems too high.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think Florida can offer a package that doesn't include Lundell but I don't think it would be all that attractive of a package. You're talking something like ERod, Samoskevich and pick #9 for Larkin. It's not awful but it's pretty underwhelming. It would take Detroit really loving that #9 pick for them to bite on it IMO.

 

[Andy99]

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Yes. The player MUST have all that real world common sense, business savvy and a nose for the long game. They are experts at playing a children's game, after all. But the GMs? They are the victims here as they are evidently incapable of possessing such things.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Lol Gretz f***ed. Gretz it?

Anyhow, lol he wrote for Pensburgh.

 

[HandshakeLine]

The real victims are the bosses of the world.