GDT: #24|Pens travel to Vancouver Sat, Dec. 4 (10:00PM EST) VIA, The Mystery Machine...

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Lustaf

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Haven't really wanted to post here or be an active member here anymore, but I will be at the game.

Also, yes Sullivan has over-used Carter which is why he looks awful, it's a very Tomlin type of idiocy with this coach with his need to drive players into the ground and then wonder why they're awful. The line "changes" are pretty bad, it's more or less Sullivan doing it to show everyone that here look, what I had was better, but here's me making it worse with no rhyme or reason as proof!

@Gurglesons posts are beyond f***ing stupid in the last GDT and I question how anyone with that sort of brain capacity has any kind of professional career.

Enjoy the rest of the season, I'll be in Seattle for the Monday game to watch the 2nd game which will be fun to see the Pens twice in a week since being away from the Pa.

Peace the f*** out, to those that I didn't dislike - Best of luck, Merry whatever you celebrate and Happy New Year.
See you at the game!
 
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Haven't really wanted to post here or be an active member here anymore, but I will be at the game.

Also, yes Sullivan has over-used Carter which is why he looks awful, it's a very Tomlin type of idiocy with this coach with his need to drive players into the ground and then wonder why they're awful. The line "changes" are pretty bad, it's more or less Sullivan doing it to show everyone that here look, what I had was better, but here's me making it worse with no rhyme or reason as proof!

@Gurglesons posts are beyond f***ing stupid in the last GDT and I question how anyone with that sort of brain capacity has any kind of professional career.

Enjoy the rest of the season, I'll be in Seattle for the Monday game to watch the 2nd game which will be fun to see the Pens twice in a week since being away from the Pa.

Peace the f*** out, to those that I didn't dislike - Best of luck, Merry whatever you celebrate and Happy New Year.

Say hi to @Tom Hanks for us.
 
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Hopefully we see another loss with an inability to score. The changes Sullivan has made aren’t enough.
 

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I don't think Carter's lazy. I just think he's an old guy who benefited enormously from the reduced schedule last year, despite everyone wanting to pretend otherwise.

Yeah, I think it's just a case of overuse. He was brought in to be a 3C who could log maybe 15-16 (17 if he got some PP time) minutes per night, not essentially be our 2nd line center who plays on both the PK and PP.
 
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Sidney the Kidney

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Hopefully we see another loss with an inability to score. The changes Sullivan has made aren’t enough.

Sullivan's likely not making drastic changes no matter what, so I'd rather they just have an offensive explosion tonight because sitting through another game where they struggle to even score 2 goals will be painful.
 
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Yeah, I think it's just a case of overuse. He was brought in to be a 3C who could log maybe 15-16 (17 if he got some PP time) minutes per night, not essentially be our 2nd line center who plays on both the PK and PP.

I get the logic of trying to tread water until Geno comes back and we can move some dead weight, but I also think it's going to fry Carter. I guess they just wanna beat 'im like a rented mule?
 

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I get the logic of trying to tread water until Geno comes back and we can move some dead weight, but I also think it's going to fry Carter. I guess they just wanna beat 'im like a rented mule?

This is where Sullivan's reluctance to use the 4th line hurts. Our 4th line is consistently getting less than 10 minutes per game. IMO, give them an extra minute or two per night and take those minutes away from Carter.

The PK, in particularly, doesn't really need to use him. Blueger and McGinn on the top unit, ZAR and Rodrigues on the second unit, with guys like Kapanen and whoever dresses on the fourth line in a given night (Boyle, Lafferty, whoever) getting mop up duty.
 

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The facts are Malkin has to come back and move Carter to 3rd center for less exposure. How simon plays with zero offensive contribution is a testament to sully and his valuing things that in the end keep you in games but never really get over the hump. Rust back and Malkin playing is the plan. If that isn't winning or not giving the Pens points to stay in the hunt, Hextall may have to move from some players.
 

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Same. I'm a critic of Sullivan, but nothing would please me more than to be wrong and to watch this team figure it all out and make a hell of a Cinderella story.

I’d like to see how we play against an offensive-focused team in the playoffs. I think that’s what our plan is based around but we haven’t seen it yet. Other than that we’ve seen everything this team can do under Sully already.
 

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Same. I'm a critic of Sullivan, but nothing would please me more than to be wrong and to watch this team figure it all out and make a hell of a Cinderella story.

I don't think it's much of a Cinderella story at this point...I think it would be more like the college guy showing up to Prom with the sophomore and winning Prom King.
 

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Sullivan's likely not making drastic changes no matter what, so I'd rather they just have an offensive explosion tonight because sitting through another game where they struggle to even score 2 goals will be painful.
I just think it’s unlikely for any sort of offensive zone explosion when our forwards can’t seem to get to the slot to shoot. I don’t think his little roster tweaks move the needle either way
 
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let me get ahead with this...First line will have a lot of looks and shots, they will also give up a lot...the second line I'll tell you right now is not going to work, there is no one to drive the play, Heinen is not the guy that can change anything in that sense, maybe Carter gets blood transfusion and show up, but I doubt...the third line will be flying, it will make difference in this game, and fourth line is probably the most inept offesnively forward lien in NHL right now...DOC is kind of mistery we had high hopes that he could drive the play, but he really sucked last handful games he played here...he was a point a game in 5 games down in Wilkes, so he may turn the corner....so yes, its still change that reeks with zero understanding whats wrong with this line up, how to ride hot ERod, etc...
also, break Letang Dumolin, they approaching deep minus teritory, maybe play tanger with Petts, and have Marino with Dumo since he is struggling and can not support Tangers' unsuccesful and kind of recently lame offensive efforts...
so there it is...I'll check the notes after the game
you think sully is dumb? OfCourse they won't work! that way sully can change them back and call all of us out for even thinking changing the line up would do anything. :biglaugh:
 

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Caps won, Canes gonna win and the Rangers are leading…margin between the top Metro teams and the Pens will grow even further if they don’t get two points tonight..
 

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Last time Pens were swept on a Western Canada swing was during the 03-04 season: Dec. 6, 3-4 @ Edmonton Dec. 7, 1-6 @ Calgary Dec. 9, 3-4 OT @ Vancouver
 
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