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I love Scott Hartnell but I don't agree with your assessment. At this point, Hartsy is a good locker room guy and leader out on the ice, but his skillset straight up will not allow him to produce like a top player late into his career. He's a guy Id only take on the Bruins if some of his contract was retained. He'd be a third line player.

Also, seems like an agenda to claim Torts has ruined anything in Columbus. They certainly haven't been worse since he took over.

No agenda re: Torts. I just don't think his coaching style is maximizing what Hartnell has left. He's not a top line guy for sure.

Bruins have a glut in the bottom 6 so he doesn't fit here anymore but I'd love to see him go to a team that will utilize him properly.
 
I'm still astonished when I read this board about people giving up on this team already and hoping we can "be good" in 2-3 years? Have you ever played competitive sports? We were expected to finish towards the bottom of the conference and we're in a good spot with the patch work d-group we currently have and 100% missing a top 6 forward. Don is working the phones like mad to address both and everyone in here is wishing he trade Eriksson, trade Chara, trade Seids, Rask isn't good enough, Krejci makes too much.

Have some loyalty to the guys who brought our team out of the dark ages. I am all for Don bringing in some rentals, as long as it doesn't cost us in the future. Why......because I don't care how good anyone else is, come playoff time, its anyone's ballgame. With our playoff experience, and a few pieces added, I'm confident in whoever we play.

In Don I trust!
 
I heard hartnell is on the block. Probably not a fit here but what's his value today? Does he have anything left in the tank?

Enough, I don't like the contract, if you could get Columbus to eat part of it I would package second tier prospects like Griffith and Koko for him.

Still brings much needed grit and leadership.
 
No agenda re: Torts. I just don't think his coaching style is maximizing what Hartnell has left. He's not a top line guy for sure.

Bruins have a glut in the bottom 6 so he doesn't fit here anymore but I'd love to see him go to a team that will utilize him properly.

What coaching style best suits Scott Hartnell?
 
Ok, it's late and there doesn't seem to be much going on with Eriksson at the moment. Let's discuss the rumored trade that most likely fell apart with the Blues. Might not be completely accurate, as most of this is speculation/conjecture based on Dom's hints.

  • Something close to - Loui Eriksson, Alexander Khokhlachev and Colin Miller for Kevin Shattenkirk was discussed.
  • Possibly contingent upon Eriksson being willing to sign an extension with the Blues.
  • Doug Armstrong may have balked at J.P. Barry's asking price.
If Barry was asking for $6 million X 6 years, and that really was the snag with the deal, what $ and term would Armstrong have been ok with? And is there a chance with the rumor of Eriksson's side budging a bit earlier today with their demands that these talks could resume?

Also, if anyone has more accurate/specific info regarding this, please chime in.

I'd be all over this possible deal. I'd much prefer to not include Colin Miller, as I think him and Morrow would be a great bottom pairing for years to come, but I'd love Shattenkirk. Replace C. Miller with any of the other prospects(Griffith, Subban, etc.) and maybe a pick and sign me the heck up!
 
One thing for sure is that whatever the front office does or doesn't do, certain posters are going to whine and say fire DS. With some folks here there is no winning. So predictable.
 
I think the cost would be closer to Griffith + 1st. He is on a great contract and Tor wouldn't deal him unless someone paid for him like his career year is his new normal.

Agree.

Maybe a 2nd depending on how much they like Griffith.
 
I like Hartnell, and would have liked him as a Bruin a few years ago.

I think he'd be a great addition to a contender, but these Bruins are not contenders. Go for more youth, not guys in their mid 30s at this point.
 
I'm still astonished when I read this board about people giving up on this team already and hoping we can "be good" in 2-3 years? Have you ever played competitive sports? We were expected to finish towards the bottom of the conference and we're in a good spot with the patch work d-group we currently have and 100% missing a top 6 forward. Don is working the phones like mad to address both and everyone in here is wishing he trade Eriksson, trade Chara, trade Seids, Rask isn't good enough, Krejci makes too much.

Have some loyalty to the guys who brought our team out of the dark ages. I am all for Don bringing in some rentals, as long as it doesn't cost us in the future. Why......because I don't care how good anyone else is, come playoff time, its anyone's ballgame. With our playoff experience, and a few pieces added, I'm confident in whoever we play.

In Don I trust!

Well, this "loyalty" thing is ********. Always has been. It's a business, not a fraternity.

That being said, I can't remember the last time anyone suggested deadline trading Chara, Krejci or Rask so I don't quite see your issue. No one is saying Loui is a bad player...it'd be a long term business decision. It's not personal.
 
Enough, I don't like the contract, if you could get Columbus to eat part of it I would package second tier prospects like Griffith and Koko for him.

Still brings much needed grit and leadership.

That's kind of how I feel. Could replace loui if he is gone but I have a feeling someone will over pay what Sweeney is likely to offer for him.
 
What coaching style best suits Scott Hartnell?

It's line up placement first and foremost.

Hartnell played under Lavi who's got a similar style to Claude. Tough on guys but will also work with players to improve.

Torts is an entirely different coach who prefers the tough love approach and it is his way or the highway. Not great when a guy is struggling a bit.

If we didn't have a glut in the bottom 6 and his contract didn't suck, I'd take a flyer on him as I think he could bounce back.
 
I've lost track of him a bit. I'm wondering what it will take if some team wants him today. His contract is 6 mill next year and then approx 5 & 4 .
Just what we need, a 33 yr. old third liner scheduled to make 15 mil over the next three years.

Where do guys come up with these aging veterans to add to our forward group when we really need defenseman?
 
No. I really like Loui. Hope we find a way to keep him while our core is in it's prime

I like him too. I'm less bothered by the idea of extending him (though he'd likely never take the deal I'd be comfortable with) than the idea of adding a couple guys like Hamhuis or Stempniak in the name of this year's team. It's good money after bad.
 
It's line up placement first and foremost.

Hartnell played under Lavi who's got a similar style to Claude. Tough on guys but will also work with players to improve.

Torts is an entirely different coach who prefers the tough love approach and it is his way or the highway. Not great when a guy is struggling a bit.

If we didn't have a glut in the bottom 6 and his contract didn't suck, I'd take a flyer on him as I think he could bounce back.

Yeah I don't quite see it. While Hartnell isn't being given a top spot, I'm pretty sure that's due to skillset, not the fact that he's being stagnated by Tortorella. Hartnell has never had the most natural talent and those guys tend to slip in the lineup as their careers wane.

Also, while I can partially see your point based on their perceived personalities, Claude and Lavi are a very rough comparison given how one is very offense heavy and the other is not.
 
I'm still astonished when I read this board about people giving up on this team already and hoping we can "be good" in 2-3 years? Have you ever played competitive sports? We were expected to finish towards the bottom of the conference and we're in a good spot with the patch work d-group we currently have and 100% missing a top 6 forward. Don is working the phones like mad to address both and everyone in here is wishing he trade Eriksson, trade Chara, trade Seids, Rask isn't good enough, Krejci makes too much.

Have some loyalty to the guys who brought our team out of the dark ages. I am all for Don bringing in some rentals, as long as it doesn't cost us in the future. Why......because I don't care how good anyone else is, come playoff time, its anyone's ballgame. With our playoff experience, and a few pieces added, I'm confident in whoever we play.

In Don I trust!

I admire your optimism-I really do. Heck, I'm also optimistic. But 'loyalty' is what got Chiarelli fired. He was loyal to guys who weren't producing, and gave them unmovable contracts, and forced his own hand in moving Boychuk. We need a little more practicality and reality.
 
Yeah I don't quite see it. While Hartnell isn't being given a top spot, I'm pretty sure that's due to skillset, not the fact that he's being stagnated by Tortorella. Hartnell has never had the most natural talent and those guys tend to slip in the lineup as their careers wane.

Also, while I can partially see your point based on their perceived personalities, Claude and Lavi are a very rough comparison given how one is very offense heavy and the other is not.

I totally see your point as well.

I think we can agree that Hartnell is not a fit here.
 
Just what we need, a 33 yr. old third liner scheduled to make 15 mil over the next three years.

Where do guys come up with these aging veterans to add to our forward group when we really need defenseman?

Evidently you didn't read my post's on hartnell. I said that he was not a fit here . I was just curious what his value out there was.
 
Ducks trade talks should pick up this morning. They want to add. Think out on Eriksson, could shift to Boedker, Drouin or another non-rental
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