24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[Snuggs]

I'm more impressed that Pasta put up 106 without anyone else over 60. Do wonder would he be a possible target, if Boston decides to sell off completely. 11.25 is solid. Geekie has a really unsustainable shooting percentage based on his career to date, so I don't think he is for real.

It's a full rink press if Pastrnak is available. I doubt he is, his price is nice, young enough to lead Boston through a rebuild, I just really doubt it. Same with Kaprizov... and most major names.

Team(Red Wings) have lots of money and really no one to pay. Might as well throw the boat at Mitch Marner and even McDavid if he hits UFA.(He should and demand the biggest NHL contract ever.) Red Wings will be positioned to offer it... ! Just for peoples brain to explode; in 2026 when McDavid will be a UFA, the cap 'could/should' be around 100 million, meaning McDavid could and should be offered around 20-18 million per year for 8 years. Me, personally; I think McDavid's next contract is 8 years 150 million and I don't think his agent takes a penny less.

Numbers are rising in the NHL and to get good players to come here you'll have to pay up period. If Dylan Larkin is yourself imposed cap limit. Idk if they'll ever make the playoffs let alone a cup run.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but Detroit isn't far from Marners hometown, they have the cap space to sign him to big $, and he can still play for an Original 6 franchise without the big pressure of playing in Toronto.

 

[Winger98]

It's a full rink press if Pastrnak is available. I doubt he is, his price is nice, young enough to lead Boston through a rebuild, I just really doubt it. Same with Kaprizov... and most major names.

Team(Red Wings) have lots of money and really no one to pay. Might as well throw the boat at Mitch Marner and even McDavid if he hits UFA.(He should and demand the biggest NHL contract ever.) Red Wings will be position to offer it... !

If their teams keep falling short, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of these higher end guys hit the market. I don't know if we'll be appealing (though, in a year, we might be with a combo of a lot of cap space and progression from more kids) but we can put in some bids.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but Detroit isn't far from Marners hometown, they have the cap space to sign him to big $, and he can still play for an Original 6 franchise without the big pressure of playing in Toronto.

I don’t know if he’s worth 6 mill more than raymond for 20 pts more ... it’s a lot of moula for someone who wants mcdavid money who’s not in the mcdavid ballpark

Plus do we want another 6 feet and under top 6 winger? Raymond marner debrincat all longterm wingers in your top 2 lines? We need size and more of a physical presence. I’d take marner but would people be prepared to move debrincat after to find seiders d pairing?

I would but I’m sure a lot of ppl would riot

 

[izlez]

Seems like some star players might finally actually be changing teams, and they are all the position the Wings need least. Right handed wingers

Marner
Pastrnak
Boeser
Rantanen already moved

At the position we have Raymond and Debrincat

 

[Winger98]

Seems like some star players might finally actually be changing teams, and they are all the position the Wings need least. Right handed wingers

Marner
Pastrnak
Boeser
Rantanen already moved

At the position we have Raymond and Debrincat

Kyle Connor is a lefty...just saying...

 

[Snuggs]

I don’t know if he’s worth 6 mill more than raymond for 20 pts more ... it’s a lot of moula for someone who wants mcdavid money who’s not in the mcdavid ballpark

Plus do we want another 6 feet and under top 6 winger? Raymond marner debrincat all longterm wingers in your top 2 lines? We need size and more of a physical presence. I’d take marner but would people be prepared to move debrincat after to find seiders d pairing?

I would but I’m sure a lot of ppl would riot

Outside of personal preferences it seems none of this makes sense at all.

Being under 6' scorer doesn't mean the team can't be more physical replacing names like Motte/Holl/Gustaffson/Tarasenko who aren't physical and play minutes/roles where maybe you should be a little bit more.

A guy like Kasper doesn't really disappear from the top two lines you just create more good scoring depth among the top three lines.

Getting someone better than Chariot doesn't really mean going out either and breaking the bank for an average UFA D-man either, Albertson might be a legitimate option if ASP plays with Edvinsson on the right side sliding Chariot ALL the way down to a 3rd pairing/PK role.

If you wanna get whacky just save all cash and offer max deals to both Makar/McDavid 2026.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Seems like some star players might finally actually be changing teams, and they are all the position the Wings need least. Right handed wingers

Marner
Pastrnak
Boeser
Rantanen already moved

At the position we have Raymond and Debrincat

Doubt Pastrnak is being moved or Bruins would move mcavoy as well. At that point offer five 1sts ++ and get seiders partner for a decade and suddenly we have Pastrnak Raymond on the right side for next decade

Anyways lwon’t happen bruins might be on a 8-15 yr rebuild lol ... they’ll go with rebuild on the fly with mcavoy Pastrnak swayman

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Outside of personal preferences it seems none of this makes sense at all.

Being under 6' scorer doesn't mean the team can't be more physical replacing names like Motte/Holl/Gustaffson/Tarasenko who aren't physical and play minutes/roles where maybe you should be a little bit more.

A guy like Kasper doesn't really disappear from the top two lines you just create more good scoring depth among the top three lines.

Those 4 players you brought up are bottom line/pair guys ... I’m talking about your top 2 lines 3/4ths of the wingers being 6 feet and under and non physical ... sure can add in Kasper but that’s one + we know larkin isn’t s big body that plays the physical game as well

Sure we’d score some nice goals time to time but come playoffs if ... if we even get there we’d get roasted

Kasper larkin marner
Debrincat ? Raymond

Or Kasper 2 c .... looks good when you look at it but I think we need more some size and grit on the top 6

Kasper larkin marner
Raymond ? Nygaard


If we moved debrincat for d help and replaced him with marner and nygaard in 2 yrs can be ready and be someone we hope Can provide us with more grit ... maybe Soderblom keeps going up. Anyways I like marner but hey it’s just my opinion but I’d then move debrincat since I’ve stated numerous times I don’t see Yzerman anyways giving him a 7-8 yr deal

Marner is like a gf who likes to be abused by her bf and keeps coming back for more, he’ll go back to Toronto anyways when he should leave

 

[Snuggs]

Lol well just disregard what I said completely and repost your opinion... that's a good case for your case.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Lol well just disregard what I said completely and repost your opinion... that's a good case for your case.

Ok

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

I don’t know if he’s worth 6 mill more than raymond for 20 pts more ... it’s a lot of moula for someone who wants mcdavid money who’s not in the mcdavid ballpark

Plus do we want another 6 feet and under top 6 winger? Raymond marner debrincat all longterm wingers in your top 2 lines? We need size and more of a physical presence. I’d take marner but would people be prepared to move debrincat after to find seiders d pairing?

I would but I’m sure a lot of ppl would riot

Ray-Larkin-Marner
Cat-Kasper-Kane

Is a hell of a top 6. Which means no more Ras/Elmer/Copp/JT experiments in the top 6.

Gavrikov is my ideal choice for a Seider partner, although rumors say he won't leave LA. Provorov is okay, but not for $8 million.

If (and this is a big if) Axel tears up Grand Rapids this offseason, has a great camp, and is penciled into the 2nd pair with Ed, you put Albert on the top pair with Mo, solving your defense dilemma in house.

Ideally, we sign Marner (whatever he wants, we haven't had a 100 point player since Fedorov) and can fix the defense issue with the growth of our drafted players.


Debrincat also stays a Wing for life. Dude wants to play here and has heart for days.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Ray-Larkin-Marner
Cat-Kasper-Kane

Is a hell of a top 6. Which means no more Ras/Elmer/Copp/JT experiments in the top 6.

Gavrikov is my ideal choice for a Seider partner, although rumors say he won't leave LA. Provorov is okay, but not for $8 million.

If (and this is a big if) Axel tears up Grand Rapids this offseason, has a great camp, and is penciled into the 2nd pair with Ed, you put Albert on the top pair with Mo, solving your defense dilemma in house.

Ideally, we sign Marner (whatever he wants, we haven't had a 100 point player since Fedorov) and can fix the defense issue with the growth of our drafted players.


Debrincat also stays a Wing for life. Dude wants to play here and has heart for days.

Ya looks good on paper,nice skilled guys... also looks good on paper to get wrecked in the playoffs if we got in with that top 6

I think we should make a trade for a left dman ... romanov,k'andre miller etc... trade the 2026 top 10 protected if you dont want to deal this years. Those guys are mid 20s and longterm solutions

Too soon to tell of johansson could fit the top pair role longterm. If we got a romanov etc.. and johansson goes to the 3rd line with asp on the 2nd I think it makes us better all around otherwise we end up with another version of chiarot petry on the 3rd line . No thx

Whatever he wants lol hes not worth 15-16 per that's bananas. Leafs fail again, they'll run him out of town. Hes done nothing in the playoffs.... hes a good regular season player , there's other options.

Deal our 1sts in next 2 drafts + and get romanov and kyle connor if he tells Winnipeg hes done. We cam get signed closer to 10 instead of marner asking for 14-15 and hed better in the playoffs imo

We'll see on debrincat I see no way yzerman signs him 7-8 yrs. And have you seen our prospect pool??? You want to draft and develop all these guys and have none make the top 6??

Debrincat larkin marner raymond kasper .. 1 spot left for , danielson???

Soderblom buchelnikov finnie lombardi mazur nygaard plante kiiskinen ... I'll say it again I see no world debrincat signs a longterm deal , much more so if we landed a marner/connor

We'll see within 24 months

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Pionk extended, not that I wanted to sign him but he got a decent 7mil x 6 years.

Stay away from Grzelcyk and Ekblad for the love of god Steve.

 

[datsyukfan]

Ya looks good on paper,nice skilled guys... also looks good on paper to get wrecked in the playoffs if we got in with that top 6

I think we should make a trade for a left dman ... romanov,k'andre miller etc... trade the 2026 top 10 protected if you dont want to deal this years. Those guys are mid 20s and longterm solutions

Too soon to tell of johansson could fit the top pair role longterm. If we got a romanov etc.. and johansson goes to the 3rd line with asp on the 2nd I think it makes us better all around otherwise we end up with another version of chiarot petry on the 3rd line . No thx

Whatever he wants lol hes not worth 15-16 per that's bananas. Leafs fail again, they'll run him out of town. Hes done nothing in the playoffs.... hes a good regular season player , there's other options.

Deal our 1sts in next 2 drafts + and get romanov and kyle connor if he tells Winnipeg hes done. We cam get signed closer to 10 instead of marner asking for 14-15 and hed better in the playoffs imo

We'll see on debrincat I see no way yzerman signs him 7-8 yrs. And have you seen our prospect pool??? You want to draft and develop all these guys and have none make the top 6??

Debrincat larkin marner raymond kasper .. 1 spot left for , danielson???

Soderblom buchelnikov finnie lombardi mazur nygaard plante kiiskinen ... I'll say it again I see no world debrincat signs a longterm deal , much more so if we landed a marner/connor

We'll see within 24 months

If you have a chance to sign a 100 point scorer you do it. This team has 0 superstar players and has basically no way of getting one other than being extremely lucky through draft/trade. You don’t win without an elite player

Yzerman should give Cat 7 years easily. Guy has been awesome, may score 40 this year and is a Michigan guy that chose to force his way here, loves being a red wing.

Man that would be just brutal to have too many good players. If we get in a log jam where we have too many good players then that’s great, we can trade from a position of strength to address a position of weakness

 

[ricky0034]

I'm more impressed that Pasta put up 106 without anyone else over 60. Do wonder would he be a possible target, if Boston decides to sell off completely. 11.25 is solid. Geekie has a really unsustainable shooting percentage based on his career to date, so I don't think he is for real.

what's most impressive is that this is the third season in a row where Pastrnak has finished top 5 in the league in points while leading his team by 40something points

doing it once is one thing, 3 times in a row? something else entirely

 

[stillwater]

If you have a chance to sign a 100 point scorer you do it. This team has 0 superstar players and has basically no way of getting one other than being extremely lucky through draft/trade. You don’t win without an elite player

Yzerman should give Cat 7 years easily. Guy has been awesome, may score 40 this year and is a Michigan guy that chose to force his way here, loves being a red wing.

Man that would be just brutal to have too many good players. If we get in a log jam where we have too many good players then that’s great, we can trade from a position of strength to address a position of weakness

Though I agree with the assessment of DeBrincat's play, he still has 2 years left on his existing contract. Though he's been good, I doubt anyone would lock him up for 9 years. It just doesn't make sense.

 

[datsyukfan]

Though I agree with the assessment of DeBrincat's play, he still has 2 years left on his existing contract. Though he's been good, I doubt anyone would lock him up for 9 years. It just doesn't make sense.

I mean that depends on the price. I see his game lasting a long time because he doesn’t rely on his size or speed. He’s just a smart skilled hockey player that plays the right way and scores at a level that not many guys can. I don’t see anyone in our system currently being able to score at anywhere close to the level Cat can (goals wise) and at the end of the day scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in the game

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

If you have a chance to sign a 100 point scorer you do it. This team has 0 superstar players and has basically no way of getting one other than being extremely lucky through draft/trade. You don’t win without an elite player

Yzerman should give Cat 7 years easily. Guy has been awesome, may score 40 this year and is a Michigan guy that chose to force his way here, loves being a red wing.

Man that would be just brutal to have too many good players. If we get in a log jam where we have too many good players then that’s great, we can trade from a position of strength to address a position of weakness

He hit 100 pts once. Right on time for a brand new sucker to take on

0 superstar players ?? Dude raymond just hit 80 at a young age on a crap team... you seriously dont think 90+ is around the corner??

You dont win by having a top 6 consisting of 4 hobbit wingers in search of finding the precious either

I see no world where yzerman gives debrincat 7 yrs. He would have when he first got here

Ya a team full of smurfs is never bad thing I'm sure teams are in desperate need of soft playoff guys

 

[datsyukfan]

He hit 100 pts once. Right on time for a brand new sucker to take on

0 superstar players ?? Dude raymond just hit 80 at a young age on a crap team... you seriously dont think 90+ is around the corner??

You dont win by having a top 6 consisting of 4 hobbit wingers in search of finding the precious either

I see no world where yzerman gives debrincat 7 yrs. He would have when he first got here

Ya a team full of smurfs is never bad thing I'm sure teams are in desperate need of soft playoff guys

Raymond is not a superstar. Will he put up 90 points sometime? Maybe, but likely he is gonna be an 80-85 point guy which is a very good player. Marner consistently puts up numbers, gets Selke votes, plays PP1, PK1.

Let’s worry about actually getting to the playoffs (we are pushing a decade).

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Raymond is not a superstar. Will he put up 90 points sometime? Maybe, but likely he is gonna be an 80-85 point guy which is a very good player. Marner consistently puts up numbers, gets Selke votes, plays PP1, PK1.

Let’s worry about actually getting to the playoffs (we are pushing a decade).

He'll get there . He didn't have the luxury of playing with 1st overall picks etc.. like marner has his whole career but he'll get there

Yes ... let's

 

[datsyukfan]

He'll get there . He didn't have the luxury of playing with 1st overall picks etc.. like marner has his whole career but he'll get there

Yes ... let's

Would love to be proven wrong I just look at him as a 1st line player not an elite superstar player. Can’t be the best forward on your team but can be the 2nd best on a championship team. I get the size factor with Raymond, Marner, Cat, but I think around those 3 we have the ability to be big/heavy and I also think cat and Raymond play a pretty damn heavy game especially for their sizes. Yzerman has been drafting 200 foot heavy type players so to me adding a superstar in Marner and an elite goal scorer in Cat should compliment those guys beautifully

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Would love to be proven wrong I just look at him as a 1st line player not an elite superstar player. Can’t be the best forward on your team but can be the 2nd best on a championship team. I get the size factor with Raymond, Marner, Cat, but I think around those 3 we have the ability to be big/heavy and I also think cat and Raymond play a pretty damn heavy game especially for their sizes. Yzerman has been drafting 200 foot heavy type players so to me adding a superstar in Marner and an elite goal scorer in Cat should compliment those guys beautifully

And you think you can win a cup with marner being forward? Most leafs fans would argue he’s the 3rd best ... and what has he done in the playoffs?

We allmsaw what raymond did down the stretch last season and with Sweden in the juniors ... I’d rather go to war in the playoffs with Raymond ... how can we be big heavy with 3 guys 6 and under? Debrincat will get tossed around like a fly in the playoffs let’s be real. Watch playoff hockey... it’s not for kids

Problem again is having 3 of those on your top 6 ... want marner ? Cool, deal debrincat and fix our d issue ... it’ll look nice and we’ll have good moments but that roster will never win a Stanley cup

 

[KJoe88]

Do we even know if Kane is coming back?

I love the guy. If SY finally makes a move for a top six guy he may re-sign despite two failed seasons of not making the playoffs. We finally had a second line with ADB- Kasper-Kane

Of it weren’t for LaTrash Kane probably would’ve had 70P.

 

[datsyukfan]

And you think you can win a cup with marner being forward? Most leafs fans would argue he’s the 3rd best ... and what has he done in the playoffs?

We allmsaw what raymond did down the stretch last season and with Sweden in the juniors ... I’d rather go to war in the playoffs with Raymond ... how can we be big heavy with 3 guys 6 and under? Debrincat will get tossed around like a fly in the playoffs let’s be real. Watch playoff hockey... it’s not for kids

Problem again is having 3 of those on your top 6 ... want marner ? Cool, deal debrincat and fix our d issue ... it’ll look nice and we’ll have good moments but that roster will never win a Stanley cup

With a giant built up d-core and a bunch of 2-way guys around him hell ya I do. You talk about how bad Marner is in playoffs then I guess Matthew’s sucks too because Marner has better numbers than him. I disagree on Cat being pushed around but that’s my opinion