24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

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one could also argue that the debrincat, kane, seider, and raymond's of the world wouldn't have wanted to sign here if we didn't have the base talent level of copp, compher, chiarot
This a 1,000 times over. The league isn't a video game. You don't just suck and all of a sudden become attractive to the best free agents (including the homegrown ones). You need to constantly add better players if you want to move forward.
 
This a 1,000 times over. The league isn't a video game. You don't just suck and all of a sudden become attractive to the best free agents (including the homegrown ones). You need to constantly add better players if you want to move forward.

I mean, it’s a bit like a video game but just when you auto-play. If you just draft a bunch of kids in a game at 20 years old and make a lineup of them and autoplay, your team is gonna get its shit caved in because even though Jake Sanderson and Noah Dobson would obviously be a better long term pairing, a video game might put them both at a 69-75 (in their draft year) and have Justin Holl at a 79 or 80 and Ben Chiarot at an 82.

So if you’re not actively playing the game, your team is gonna lose more than it wins. But if you have a team of all 85s, you’re certainly making the playoffs and you’re probably a favorite for the Cup
 
Anyone know what the pens would want for Rust? Could we get him for like bergy +2nd + a b level prospect.

You could slot him in with Larkin and Ray and then shift Kasper back to the middle to create better depth down middle.

Just a thought as I think Rust could be a very nice fit with Larkin and Ray

I dont mind rust. Maybe swap Tarasenko with Berggren?
 
If we're looking at D, give me Brandon Carlo. 2 more years after this at 4.1M. 72 playoff games including the 2019 finals

ASP needs time if he steps into Detroit and I think 3rd pair/PP2 to start to let him simmer there unless he blows the roof off right away

This season:
Edvinsson - Seider
Johansson - Carlo
Gustafsson - Petry
Holl/Tuomisto?

Next season:
Edvinsson - Seider
Johansson - Carlo
Gustafsson - Sandin-Pellikka
Tuomisto/Holl?

I don't mean to split up AlJo and Ed this year, it's just they're both inexperienced and it would be good to spread the wealth where we will be heavily pressed to win games defensively and make that wildcard spot

...Also, now we need centers this season, BAD. I do feel Red Wings killer Scott Laughton will be heading to our team at the deadline, which I wouldn't be mad about. 1 more year at 3M, something I think a risk-averse, long term thinker like Yzerman will want instead of other inconsistent C's on the trade market like Mittelstadt and Cozens that come with term and price

For the love of all that’s holy, no Gus next year. PLEASE!

Here’s a trade for you guys, 2025 1st (top 10 protected) becomes 2026 unprotected 1st if it conveys, Berggren/veleno, and a 2026 third for Owen Tippett.

(Just saw he has an 8 year contract, do not remember it being that big, we’d need to add a decent amount more).

Owen Tippett is a 50 point second line winger. I’m not trading a 1st PLUS for that. Especially on his contract.
 
For the love of all that’s holy, no Gus next year. PLEASE!



Owen Tippett is a 50 point second line winger. I’m not trading a 1st PLUS for that. Especially on his contract.
He's under contract so I'm just operating under the assumption he won't be moved. Definitely would welcome any upgrade on him if possible
 
He's under contract so I'm just operating under the assumption he won't be moved. Definitely would welcome any upgrade on him if possible

I’m hoping for an aggressive TDL and aggressive offseason from Yzerman. Being patient and building only from the draft while signing marginal FAs was fine when we weren’t a bubble team.

Detroit could be picking between 12 and 20 at the draft. It’ll take some aggressive wheeling and dealing to get out of that mushy middle. And that should include dumping Gus. The guy has been bad 90% of the time.
 
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You need to constantly add better players if you want to move forward.
So let's add some better players and move forward.

There's a wide spectrum in between "add McDavid" and "keep watching Justin Holl and his AHL level talent". Cough up a second or third rounder for a functional NHL defenseman. And maybe another second or third rounder for a functional NHL forward.
 
For the love of all that’s holy, no Gus next year. PLEASE!



Owen Tippett is a 50 point second line winger. I’m not trading a 1st PLUS for that. Especially on his contract.
Yeah, Owen Tippett is a good player who could bring a lot to this team, but once I fully saw his contract I was also against it. 7 more years at 6 mill is just too much.
 
Wonder if GMs just simply dont like doing business with Steve lol.
There may be some merit to this. For a long while he was seen as a very shrewd deal maker who rarely came out the loser in trades.

Maybe after years of taking other general managers to the cleaners, they've smartened up?
 

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