24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[Steve Yzerlland]

I'm surprised no trades are happening right now? With this extended break? Weird.

 

[HoweFan]

I'm surprised no trades are happening right now? With this extended break? Weird.

I don’t think the nhl wants them to distract from this tourney

 

[Frk It]

I'd rather go for Ehlers, who can play LW with a lot of speed, and when Kasper moves back to center he can slot in with Larkin and Raymond or LW on the 2nd line.

1) Sign Ehlers and Provorov this off-season
2) Add some combo of Cossa / ASP / Mazur / Buch to the roster
3) Enjoy a deep play-off run

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

I don’t think the nhl wants them to distract from this tourney

Yeah that's what I thought too but I was hoping they would all be communicating so we could try to improve for the playoff push.

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

Yeah that's what I thought too but I was hoping they would all be communicating so we could try to improve for the playoff push.

The official time off ends on the 18th I think, so action should pick up after that, not that players can't be traded during the break, but it would be kind of low to do so....that said, there could be some deals queued up and sitting on a desk at NHL HQ too...

 

[FMichael]

We need to not have chiarot on either of our top 2 pairs next year.

Someone to play with seider and then edvinsson with asp

We already have a guy that can play in the top 4 - AlJo.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Aljo-Mo
Ed-Karlsson
Chiarot-Gus

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Just curious who ppl would be willing to deal danielson for

4 goals in 47 games as an ahl rookie unless something changes hes guaranteed to be a 3c in imo . Dvorsky a full younger has way better numbers nadeau at 19 has 19 goals

Wood was the player I was going for at 9 so I wasnt rooting for those 2 guys

Anyways Who's a player who can be a big part of the future fans would be ok if he was dealt. I dont think it's that hard to find 3c's

 

[KJoe88]

Just curious who ppl would be willing to deal danielson for

4 goals in 47 games as an ahl rookie unless something changes hes guaranteed to be a 3c in imo . Dvorsky a full younger has way better numbers nadeau at 19 has 19 goals

Wood was the player I was going for at 9 so I wasnt rooting for those 2 guys

Anyways Who's a player who can be a big part of the future fans would be ok if he was dealt. I dont think it's that hard to find 3c's

I personally don’t like the Danielson pick. I think he has a low ceiling.

Trade him in a bigger package for someone like Cozens.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Just curious who ppl would be willing to deal danielson for

4 goals in 47 games as an ahl rookie unless something changes hes guaranteed to be a 3c in imo . Dvorsky a full younger has way better numbers nadeau at 19 has 19 goals

Wood was the player I was going for at 9 so I wasnt rooting for those 2 guys

Anyways Who's a player who can be a big part of the future fans would be ok if he was dealt. I dont think it's that hard to find 3c's

I'd be happy to include him as part of a package in a trade for a legit U27 forward with potential. Few of those available though. Maybe Barzal?

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

I personally don’t like the Danielson pick. I think he has a low ceiling.

Trade him in a bigger package for someone like Cozens.

Was never a fan of the pick cause I dont think we should ever pick the "sure" nhl pick in the top half of the 1st round and should always go for upside

That said I never rooted for the guy to bust and if hes still here i hope he turns it around and can be a great 2way guy who can go for 25 goals 60 pts ballpark

I get he can be a great 2 way checking C but 4 goals in 47 games doesnt sound good man. 3c's can be had in deals and ufa and we have a bunch of prospects coming ,maybe someone can take a shot at the spot

Anyways if he stays I hope he turns it around offensively

 

[Frk It]

Just curious who ppl would be willing to deal danielson for

4 goals in 47 games as an ahl rookie unless something changes hes guaranteed to be a 3c in imo . Dvorsky a full younger has way better numbers nadeau at 19 has 19 goals

Wood was the player I was going for at 9 so I wasnt rooting for those 2 guys

Anyways Who's a player who can be a big part of the future fans would be ok if he was dealt. I dont think it's that hard to find 3c's

The guy you want to trade bc he’s not producing is not the same guy who is going to fetch you a great return in a trade.

Trading Danielson right now while his value is down would be dumb.

I think he can/will get it back on track next year, you can figure out what you wanna do with him then.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

I'd be happy to include him as part of a package in a trade for a legit U27 forward with potential. Few of those available though. Maybe Barzal?

Not a big fan of barzal personally... I was thinking Anaheim in some kind of deal for like a younger mctavish but doubt verbeek would.

I think if cozens continues to struggle he might be had without moving danielson at some point. I dont know who I'd go for but I'd like someone 22-26 with huge upside who can be here a long time

 

[RedHawkDown]

Not a big fan of barzal personally... I was thinking Anaheim in some kind of deal for like a younger mctavish but doubt verbeek would.

I think if cozens continues to struggle he might be had without moving danielson at some point. I dont know who I'd go for but I'd like someone 22-26 with huge upside who can be here a long time

Anaheim has zero reason to get evne younger- no chance they do that. Maybe for Zegras, though not sure that's a good move on our part.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

The guy you want to trade bc he’s not producing is not the same guy who is going to fetch you a great return in a trade.

Trading Danielson right now while his value is down would be dumb.

I think he can/will get it back on track next year, you can figure out what you wanna do with him then.

Not saying 1 for 1 but in a package deal with him being the main prospect

Hope he turns it around like I said I never root for prospects to bust. Always thought hed be a 3c but I didn't expect only 4 goals in 47 games

Hopefully he bounces back. Wouldnt mind seeing him up for few games at some point

Anaheim has zero reason to get evne younger- no chance they do that. Maybe for Zegras, though not sure that's a good move on our part.

I doubt verbeek would. Since he knows yzerman he would know better. Yzerman would probably have to say danielson for fowler to confuse him haha

 

[norrisnick]

I personally don’t like the Danielson pick. I think he has a low ceiling.

Trade him in a bigger package for someone like Cozens.

How does Cozens have any higher ceiling than Danielson?

 

[Oddbob]

Just curious who ppl would be willing to deal danielson for

4 goals in 47 games as an ahl rookie unless something changes hes guaranteed to be a 3c in imo . Dvorsky a full younger has way better numbers nadeau at 19 has 19 goals

Wood was the player I was going for at 9 so I wasnt rooting for those 2 guys

Anyways Who's a player who can be a big part of the future fans would be ok if he was dealt. I dont think it's that hard to find 3c's

I'm fine with trading Danielson, but it would have to be a major piece coming back, preferably forward. I have my worries about both his lack of shooting and overall lack of offence, particularly how many games he can go without virtually any pts. He just had a 13 game stretch with either no pts or like 1 pt according to what someone said in the Griffs thread. I always find it hard to believe a future star player can go that long in the AHL without a pt. He has half a pt a game or so which is about what Kasper did, but Kasper also started the year coming back from a knee injury, which Danielson did not.

Still don't just want to give him away though and not for a defenceman. I don't think we need a #1 d to go with Seider. A legit top 4 for the second pair as we already have Ed who can play with Mo. Ed is already going to get a bigger salary soon, so we don't want to bring in another high priced guy, especially if it thins out our already fairly low end forward prospects. We don't have really any major pt producers coming along aside from maybe Buch, so trading what we have right now doesn't make sense to me, unless it is for another forward to take their place.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

I'm fine with trading Danielson, but it would have to be a major piece coming back, preferably forward. I have my worries about both his lack of shooting and overall lack of offence, particularly how many games he can go without virtually any pts. He just had a 13 game stretch with either no pts or like 1 pt according to what someone said in the Griffs thread. I always find it hard to believe a future star player can go that long in the AHL without a pt. He has half a pt a game or so which is about what Kasper did, but Kasper also started the year coming back from a knee injury, which Danielson did not.

Still don't just want to give him away though and not for a defenceman. I don't think we need a #1 d to go with Seider. A legit top 4 for the second pair as we already have Ed who can play with Mo. Ed is already going to get a bigger salary soon, so we don't want to bring in another high priced guy, especially if it thins out our already fairly low end forward prospects. We don't have really any major pt producers coming along aside from maybe Buch, so trading what we have right now doesn't make sense to me, unless it is for another forward to take their place.

Ya I wouldnt just give him away and if I'd deal him it would have to be for a top 6 forward with huge upside or already there that can be here longterm

Not saying a 1 for 1 deal but hed be the main prospect piece in a deal . Like a 1st +danielson+compher(for cap purposes) + wallinder ??? I dont know what the return would be but I'd hope wed be able to get something good

Especially if it's a team looking to rebuild , but on the flip side I dont think those teams would be parting with a 23-26 year old

 

[19 for president]

I'd be happy to include him as part of a package in a trade for a legit U27 forward with potential. Few of those available though. Maybe Barzal?

U27 center absolutely. We can't afford to deal him for anything else as he may be our only legit center prospect. One could argue Kasper but I think his offensive game is much better suited to playing wing.

I get we all hoped he'd light it up offensively in the AHL, but that whole team has struggled offensively since Ammo went down. Elmer wasn't tearing it up offensively either, and has looked really good with the Wings. Danielson is also scoring at the same pace Kasper did last year. We don't see to have the creative scoring AHL standout vets that we've had in the past down there.

 

[SantosHalper]

After seeing Pettersson in 4Nations, stay away from him....

 

[JediOrderPizza]

After seeing Pettersson in 4Nations, stay away from him....
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I really don't understand what happened to him. I see some saying still injured but no way he plays in four nations hurt and that ineffective anyways.

 

[RedHawkDown]

U27 center absolutely. We can't afford to deal him for anything else as he may be our only legit center prospect. One could argue Kasper but I think his offensive game is much better suited to playing wing.

I get we all hoped he'd light it up offensively in the AHL, but that whole team has struggled offensively since Ammo went down. Elmer wasn't tearing it up offensively either, and has looked really good with the Wings. Danielson is also scoring at the same pace Kasper did last year. We don't see to have the creative scoring AHL standout vets that we've had in the past down there.

It’s a lot of excuses, though obviously I also hope he turns it around. Kaspers game also brings a ton of physicality and effective pest qualities that Danielson doesn’t have. A defensively responsible soft 3C is essentially Copp, and that sucks.

I’m not saying to give up on him for peanuts, but if a young player with potential is available I’d absolutely include him in the trade. I dunno if I’d do it for Cozens, but to the person above saying how Cozens has higher potential - he’s 3 years older than Danielson and has put up 68 pts and 30 goals in the NHL before. People are way too obsessed with prospects.

 

[schuelma24]

It’s a lot of excuses, though obviously I also hope he turns it around. Kaspers game also brings a ton of physicality and effective pest qualities that Danielson doesn’t have. A defensively responsible soft 3C is essentially Copp, and that sucks.

I’m not saying to give up on him for peanuts, but if a young player with potential is available I’d absolutely include him in the trade. I dunno if I’d do it for Cozens, but to the person above saying how Cozens has higher potential - he’s 3 years older than Danielson and has put up 68 pts and 30 goals in the NHL before. People are way too obsessed with prospects.

While he's not as physical as Kasper, I don't think calling Danielson soft is at all accurate.

We literally did this entire thread last year with Marco and now everyone by Shanahanman loves him.

 

[Winger98]

I don't deal Danielson unless we're getting a signed, nearly Larkin level center for him. Think Bo Horvat. Anything else, and why? We don't need another wing, and a lesser player is unlikely to be any great upgrade over what Danielson brings without the benefit of Danielson's ELC and future cost control.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

I don't deal Danielson unless we're getting a signed, nearly Larkin level center for him. Think Bo Horvat. Anything else, and why? We don't need another wing, and a lesser player is unlikely to be any great upgrade over what Danielson brings without the benefit of Danielson's ELC and future cost control.

He has value, and I agree if a center becomes available and it's somebody at or above what you think Danielson's ceiling is, you deal him and a 1st with whatever in a heart beat.