24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[Winger98]

Not a bad contract for M. Pettersson but I dunno If I'd want to give him 6 years.

$5.5m is a really nice cap hit, though.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Was looking at some of the teams weekes said was in on cozens I really cant see anyone offering up a top prospect

Leafs? Who do they have in the current roster ? Robertson ...meh cant see them moving Cowan or minten

Habs ... dach? 20 pts always injury prone ... prospects maybe mesar

Flames ...sharangovich? Would they move honzek 20 yrs old ,18 pts in 34 ahl games

Wings

Veleno/berggren current roster prob compher to make cap work

Prospects that might be available for cozens?? I'd say plante/mazur/kiiskinen (can afford to do so with danielson,lombardi,nygaard, buchelnikov, finnie waiting ) cleveland/tuomisto

I'd say we have as good as a shot as anyone cause again no ones giving up a top prospect. Canucks is the real to worry about If they move pettersson

 

[Lampedampe]

$5.5m is a really nice cap hit, though.

Yeah that's a steal for sure.

This is why i want Yzerman to trade for a defenseman like Provorov or Pettersson. These defensemen get locked up where they are traded to, just like Hanifin.

I think we need to get realistic about how much space there is on the roster for the current prospects. For example, Wallinder and Buium, where do they fit in?
Even if they're great, i don't see how this team can have AlJo, ASP, Seider, Ed, Buium and Wallinder in the coming 2 years. You need vets on defense, Yzerman knows this.

These kids are assets that should be used a trade, imo.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Was looking at some of the teams weekes said was in on cozens I really cant see anyone offering up a top prospect

Leafs? Who do they have in the current roster ? Robertson ...meh cant see them moving Cowan or minten

Habs ... dach? 20 pts always injury prone ... prospects maybe mesar

Flames ...sharangovich? Would they move honzek 20 yrs old ,18 pts in 34 ahl games

Wings

Veleno/berggren current roster prob compher to make cap work

Prospects that might be available for cozens?? I'd say plante/mazur/kiiskinen (can afford to do so with danielson,lombardi,nygaard, buchelnikov, finnie waiting ) cleveland/tuomisto

I'd say we have as good as a shot as anyone cause again no ones giving up a top prospect. Canucks is the real to worry about If they move pettersson

we can also afford to give up cossa for pat maroon, that doesn't make it a good trade. cozens sucks and he's expensive for a long time. just because reinhart blew up after getting out of buffalo has zero bearing on cozens potential. there's a reason his name has been involved in trade rumors for months, and it's not because buffalo believes he has 80 point potential

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

Ffs nyr won and k'andre miller lead all skaters with 25 minutes of ice time ... think that ship has sailed

Shoulda struck while Drury was thinking of dealing everyone lol

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Yeah that's a steal for sure.

This is why i want Yzerman to trade for a defenseman like Provorov or Pettersson. These defensemen get locked up where they are traded to, just like Hanifin.

I think we need to get realistic about how much space there is on the roster for the current prospects. For example, Wallinder and Buium, where do they fit in?
Even if they're great, i don't see how this team can have AlJo, ASP, Seider, Ed, Buium and Wallinder in the coming 2 years. You need vets on defense, Yzerman knows this.

These kids are assets that should be used a trade, imo.

I mean, NHL teams seem terrified to try something like this, a home grown, young defense. But if the Wings wanted to, those six could theoretically be our top six in 26-27. Chia, Gus and Holl will have their contracts expire.

Two righties and another guy who is left but plays well on his off hand. Plus by then, wouldn't Mo pretty much be considered a veteran?

I am not saying they will do it, I am not adverse to the right trade. Just saying, if they are all great like you mentioned, they COULD do it. And why not, show some balls and be innovative? Too many crappy mid vets can really stink up a defense.

 

[Lampedampe]

I mean, NHL teams seem terrified to try something like this, a home grown, young defense. But if the Wings wanted to, those six could theoretically be our top six in 26-27. Chia, Gus and Holl will have their contracts expire.

Two righties and another guy who is left but plays well on his off hand. Plus by then, wouldn't Mo pretty much be considered a veteran?

I am not saying they will do it, I am not adverse to the right trade. Just saying, if they are all great like you mentioned, they COULD do it. And why not, show some balls and be innovative? Too many crappy mid vets can really stink up a defense.

Not saying it can't happen, but Buffalo is conducting this experiment as we speak. I'm not sure that the results are encouraging.

But yeah, Seider can defintetly be put in vet category to be fair.

Considering that the defensive core is young, i'd still argue that this team would be better off using guys like Buium and Wallinder as trade-chips. Keep the draft picks, cause they'll hopefully turn into cheap depth 3-4 years from now.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It’s a bad draft year. I’m all for giving up a 1st for ROR if one of Veleno, Compher or Copp are thrown in.

2022 is looking like a bad draft year too.

I'd take Kasper over a couple years of ROR.

 

[19 for president]

I mean, NHL teams seem terrified to try something like this, a home grown, young defense. But if the Wings wanted to, those six could theoretically be our top six in 26-27. Chia, Gus and Holl will have their contracts expire.

Two righties and another guy who is left but plays well on his off hand. Plus by then, wouldn't Mo pretty much be considered a veteran?

I am not saying they will do it, I am not adverse to the right trade. Just saying, if they are all great like you mentioned, they COULD do it. And why not, show some balls and be innovative? Too many crappy mid vets can really stink up a defense.

I get what you are saying but I think the mental factor makes this unlikely. I mean if any team could do it I would lean towards this team because Yzerman/Draper really prioritize the mental aspect when drafting. Seider would also be like 25 by this point, but again I think there is a reason you almost never see super young teams do well in the playoffs. Hockey is definitely a mental grind and it is very easy for young teams to spiral.

It should also be noted that we will overall be a very young team overall not just on D, so I think that makes it even less likely. More than half our lineup could be under 25 at that point.

Buffalo and Edm (of the pre-McDavid era) tried very young teams and it never really worked out for them.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

2022 is looking like a bad draft year too.

I'd take Kasper over a couple years of ROR.

We’re not drafting 8th this year, my dude. Wings are going to pick 14th to 18th. There’s a HUGE drop from 1-10 and 11-32. Unless Bear falls to Detroit in that range (he won’t) then I want to trade that pick for an upgrade. Also adding ROR will likely turn that 14-18 pick into a 20-24 pick.

The wings have so many former 1sts on the team with 4 more coming. Not to mention guys like Buium, Mazur, Augustine. ROR fills the 2C spot today better than anyone we have, and in 1 or 2 seasons fills the 3C role. I’d take that over a potential Kemell or Rutger McGroarty at the draft. But I don’t think 2025 is deep enough to have those types in the teens.