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24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

Euro Twins said:
Aljo is not and will not be better than edvinsson. Saying that doesn't make you edgy. Aljo looks as good as he does BECAUSE of edvinsson. Just like Ian white looked good next to lids
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Not really fair to Johansson. hes really good and has been for a long time. He didnt put up big offensive numbers so stat watchers slept on him. I think Edvinsson is better and will continue to be better, but there were lots of people who thought Johansson was Grand Rapids best dman last year. Comparing it to White and Lidstrom is way off the mark
 
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Moving Talbot....atrocious idea

Dump holl, petry, motte, fisher or veleno in a TDL trade for picks...sure

Rasmussen I could see as part of a deal for a dman.

We brought Tarasenko in for a reason...Buchelnikov. so he ain't going anywhere

Copp and Compher aren't getting dealt unless part of a pckg(salary dump) for a player who makes 7m plus...which ain't happening so forget it

Next year

Kasper-Larkin-Raymond
Debrincat-Copp/Danielson-UFA(Kane?)
Tank-Compher-Buch(?)/Rasmussen
Soderblom-Copp-Berggren

Chariot/Trade-Seider
ED-Johansson
Gustafsson-Wallinder/Buium/Holl

Talbot
Cossa
X

That's realistic
 
My wet dream summer is for marner to sign here. The cash shouldn't be an issue and he is an incredible player that has a team first attitude that would fit in well with what SY is trying to do.

Ship/shop Tank, Kane, Valeno, Copp, and compher up front and any one or all of the three stooges on the back end.
 
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Getting someone who can play 2C and you put Danielson on wing with the new 2C and DeBrincat like Kasper is doing initially I think would be a great way to ease him into the NHL.
 
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Euro Twins said:
I'd still trade aljo in the right package tbh.



Wait you're afraid to pay ep 11 per but want to pay Rantanen 14?

Ok let's say we manage to clear the cap space necessary. Now we have no cash to fix our d or goaltending
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I simply believe EP is supremely overrated. Rantanen has four 100 points seasons in his career. EP has one and it was a fluke.
 
Zetterberg4Captain said:
Moving Talbot....atrocious idea

Dump holl, petry, motte, fisher or veleno in a TDL trade for picks...sure

Rasmussen I could see as part of a deal for a dman.

We brought Tarasenko in for a reason...Buchelnikov. so he ain't going anywhere

Copp and Compher aren't getting dealt unless part of a pckg(salary dump) for a player who makes 7m plus...which ain't happening so forget it

Next year

Kasper-Larkin-Raymond
Debrincat-Copp/Danielson-UFA(Kane?)
Tank-Compher-Buch(?)/Rasmussen
Soderblom-Copp-Berggren

Chariot/Trade-Seider
ED-Johansson
Gustafsson-Wallinder/Buium/Holl

Talbot
Cossa
X

That's realistic
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Move lyon then

Where did you hear we brought in tarasenko for buchelnikov cause that sounds ridiculous. Before buchelnikov's recent khl season was anyone overly excited and thought he might have a shot here ?

Hes also signed for one more year in the khl and I'd say theres a 0% chance we resign tarasenko and should look to move him. It just hasn't worked out for him here
 
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KJoe88 said:
I simply believe EP is supremely overrated. Rantanen has four 100 points seasons in his career. EP has one and it was a fluke.
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Rantanen was also playing on one of the top teams in the league and had makar and MacKinnon on the ppl

Pettersson had 89 pts last season. It's a bit ridiculous to say hes a bust now with a bad season, one where we all know he has beef with miller for whatever reason

I dont think for a second if we brought him here and he had raymond on his wing be wouldnt be back to his 100 pt pace . Its ridiculous to write him off after this season

I have no doubt if he came here and joined his fellow swedes Edvinsson raymond johansson berggren soderblom he would feel so at ease and would excel

Sadly we dont have any current roster players canucks would want that wed part with. Kasper is here to stay. Canucks wouldnt just want picks and prospects as they shouldn't
 
newfy said:
Not really fair to Johansson. hes really good and has been for a long time. He didnt put up big offensive numbers so stat watchers slept on him. I think Edvinsson is better and will continue to be better, but there were lots of people who thought Johansson was Grand Rapids best dman last year. Comparing it to White and Lidstrom is way off the mark
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I do agree Johansson is good. It wasn't so much comparing him to white as much as comparing the situation. White looked better playing with Lidstrom. Johansson benefits from playing with Ed. I think AlJo will carve out a very good career as a #3/4 but I don't see him being a 1a/1b like Ed. That's also very good because we need cost controlled guys that can play to their strengths and provide great depth of we want to go for a cup.

KJoe88 said:
I simply believe EP is supremely overrated. Rantanen has four 100 points seasons in his career. EP has one and it was a fluke.
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Rantanen got to play with Mack too. Playing in Carolina next to Aho let's see how his numbers fair going forward.
 
redwingsfannn9191 said:
Sadly we dont have any current roster players canucks would want that wed part with. Kasper is here to stay. Canucks wouldnt just want picks and prospects as they shouldn't
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On paper, I think the only way Detroit could make an EP40 trade work is with a third team involved. If the Canucks could get a middle six center and a prospect or two, with the Wings giving up picks and/or prospects to both Vancouver and the third team, then it might be feasible.

But that's a lot of maybes.
 
RRhoads said:
I did. I kept asking Henkka to add him to his prospect polls.
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Adding him to a prospect poll rankings didnt mean one would suspect hed be top 10 in khl scoring and hope he could make the roster next season lol (he can't, signed to khl)

If you thought that, good on you you'd be the only 1

GarlicbreadTB said:
JT Miller going to Rangers it seems.
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That's the least shocking destination , he probably demanded to go there and canucks probably had to settle for zibanajed

GarlicbreadTB said:
JT Miller going to Rangers it seems.
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That's the least shocking destination , he probably demanded to go there and canucks probably had to settle for zibanajed
 
jkutswings said:
On paper, I think the only way Detroit could make an EP40 trade work is with a third team involved. If the Canucks could get a middle six center and a prospect or two, with the Wings giving up picks and/or prospects to both Vancouver and the third team, then it might be feasible.

But that's a lot of maybes.
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Ya likely not to happen, doubt any team that would move a cozens,byfield etc... would want picks and prospects over pettersson

With miller now apparently gone I'm sure pettersson will explode and Canucks will keep him. We'd have to jump on it asap and hope the gm jumps over quantity rather than quality lol

1st + 2nd + danielson + compher +veleno + wallinder

Doubt its enough I'd be just as hally targeting cozens and keeping danielson if we can

Kasper larkin raymond
Debrincat cozens kane
Soderblom danielson berggren
Rasmussen copp mazur

Wont happen but id take that
 
redwingsfannn9191 said:
Adding him to a prospect poll rankings didnt mean one would suspect hed be top 10 in khl scoring and hope he could make the roster next season lol (he can't, signed to khl)

If you thought that, good on you you'd be the only 1
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It wasn't about him being in the top 10 in the KHL. It was about him having a shot here.
 
redwingsfannn9191 said:
Move lyon then

Where did you hear we brought in tarasenko for buchelnikov cause that sounds ridiculous. Before buchelnikov's recent khl season was anyone overly excited and thought he might have a shot here ?

Hes also signed for one more year in the khl and I'd say theres a 0% chance we resign tarasenko and should look to move him. It just hasn't worked out for him here
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Ok
 
Steve Yzerlland said:
I would assume this means EP is staying put right? Sucks. I really wanted him on the Wings.
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Lol well if keeps sucking rest of the year then might deal him before his no trade kicks in. But if I'm vancouver I keep him

If I'm elias I play just good enough they keep me and demand a trade to Detroit when my no trade kicks in so yzerman doesnt have to get into a bidding war lol
 
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Snuggs said:
Vancouver did the right thing. I'd have never traded Pettersson and always would have kept him around over Miller.

Next target pending.
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I wouldn't necessarily say they did the right thing. They let a player spat get out of hand to the point they had to trade a key player, publicly stated their two players involved in said spat were trade bait, and generally turned their problems into a circus. What a shit-show.

In terms of having to fall on your own sword, yeah, Miller was the better choice to trade.
 
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Zetterberg4Captain said:
Moving Talbot....atrocious idea

Dump holl, petry, motte, fisher or veleno in a TDL trade for picks...sure

Rasmussen I could see as part of a deal for a dman.

We brought Tarasenko in for a reason...Buchelnikov. so he ain't going anywhere

Copp and Compher aren't getting dealt unless part of a pckg(salary dump) for a player who makes 7m plus...which ain't happening so forget it

Next year

Kasper-Larkin-Raymond
Debrincat-Copp/Danielson-UFA(Kane?)
Tank-Compher-Buch(?)/Rasmussen
Soderblom-Copp-Berggren

Chariot/Trade-Seider
ED-Johansson
Gustafsson-Wallinder/Buium/Holl

Talbot
Cossa
X

That's realistic
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"Buch" is in the KHL for another yr.

I wouldn't mind paying $13-14M/yr (market value) for Marner or Rantanen. We're an elite scorer or two away from having realistic Stanley Cup aspirations. This ^ is about as good a shot as we're going to get. Take your very best shot. Pray you get the chance to take another next summer w Kyle Connor.

Raymond -- Larkin -- Marner/Rantanen
DeBrincat -- Danielson -- Kane
Mazur -- Kasper -- Berggren
Soderblom -- Veleno -- Ras
(need to start unloading: Compher, Copp, Tank)

Chychrun 🙏 -- Seider
Edvinsson -- ASP
Chiarot -- Johansson
(hopefully we can unload Holl, Gustafsson)

Talbot, Cossa
 
Steve Yzerlland said:
I would assume this means EP is staying put right? Sucks. I really wanted him on the Wings.
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Probably, but it certainly removes the urgency to move him ASAP, they could still move him before July 1 and after the season if they don’t get a deal they like, it may be the dressing room rot needs to be cleaned out from both ends…we’ll see.
 
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