24/25 Season - Red Wings Stats & Advanced Stats

[Frk It]

I think through 5 games with a new coach, we have not had a negative shot differential game yet.

 

[Henkka]

It was the same carbon-copy game as latest ones.

Wings were dominating the Jets when hunting the lead.

 

[izlez]

I was playing around looking at some advanced stats and happened to see this. Low Danger Goals Against:

I know PDO is out there as a measurement of "luck", but man, Chiarot and Petry being league leaders in garbage goals against seems like maybe an indicator that they maybe aren't as bad as they seem and won't be the cause of so many losses in the future

 

[saska sault]

I was playing around looking at some advanced stats and happened to see this. Low Danger Goals Against:

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I know PDO is out there as a measurement of "luck", but man, Chiarot and Petry being league leaders in garbage goals against seems like maybe an indicator that they maybe aren't as bad as they seem and won't be the cause of so many losses in the future

 

[raymond23]

I was playing around looking at some advanced stats and happened to see this. Low Danger Goals Against:

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I know PDO is out there as a measurement of "luck", but man, Chiarot and Petry being league leaders in garbage goals against seems like maybe an indicator that they maybe aren't as bad as they seem and won't be the cause of so many losses in the future

I feel like that has a lot to do with the tremendous shot disparity they were giving up as a pairing. More shots = more opportunities for garbage goals

Chiarot has been tremendous under McLellan so far

 

[HisNoodliness]

I feel like that has a lot to do with the tremendous shot disparity they were giving up as a pairing. More shots = more opportunities for garbage goals

Chiarot has been tremendous under McLellan so far

I have to say, as president of the Chiarot hater club, that these games under McLellan have been the very best games I've ever seen him play and by like 2 standard deviations. He looks so good right now (at least compared to normal).

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Um, remember that goal against to start the third period the first time we played Winnipeg? I am sure that was a low danger chance, but I wouldn't call it bad luck. I would call it the Ben and Jeff suck show.

Breaking those two up has been the right thing to do.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I feel like that has a lot to do with the tremendous shot disparity they were giving up as a pairing. More shots = more opportunities for garbage goals

Chiarot has been tremendous under McLellan so far

I would argue that part of Chiarot and the other D looking better is a result of the better puck support and zone exits. I've been saying Chiarot gets too much grief here. And a lot of the problems were from running around after getting pinned in their own end.

I'd be curious to see stats on how much the Wings have been spending in the offensive versus defensive zone since Mclellan took over.

 

[newfy]

I would argue that part of Chiarot and the other D looking better is a result of the better puck support and zone exits. I've been saying Chiarot gets too much grief here. And a lot of the problems were from running around after getting pinned in their own end.

I'd be curious to see stats on how much the Wings have been spending in the offensive versus defensive zone since Mclellan took over.

Chiarot has taken a lot of shit from his first season when his Dad was dying and he+Mo were playing thehardest minutes in the league.

Give him a decent partner and hes a top 4 D. The start of this year he looked pretty bad, Petry was horrible and the rest of the team wasnt great either. Chiarot has been fine for 2 seasons now

 

[Henkka]

Think I mentioned this earlier already, but our rise on expected goals did already start in November under Lalonde. But finally it was the coaching change, which did brought the winning results.

This is 10-game rolling xG average from this season. I think the "flu bug" affected on the team also at earlier part of the season. Too many guys who did sit as healthy scracth were mentioned with flu bug for first 1,5 months.

 

[Frk It]

DeBrincat has 17 power play points in 42 games this year, compared to 19 power play points in 82 games last year.

I think he has developed some really nice chemistry with Raymond and has been a big reason we have the 2nd best power play in the league right now.

 

[cjm502]

In 9 games this year Ville Husso has 1 win. He has been pulled 3 times. He is rocking .866sv% and 3.69GAA. Last season Husso started 18 games and finished at .892sv% and a he has career save percentage of .901 despite playing 40 games with the Blues in 21-22 and somehow finishing with a .919sv%.

I know I'm just stating the obvious at this point, but Husso is an awful goalie at the NHL level who somehow pulled off one good season as many goalies do.

Remember when Lalonde declared Husso the winner of the preseason goalie battle, started him game 1 against the Pens, and he got pulled after letting in 4 goals on 14 shots?

Husso might be a good guy, but at this point even ECHL goalie Carter Gylander of the Toledo Walleye would give the Wings a better chance of winning.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

How the hell do we have a better PP than a team that had Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Hossa, Franzen, Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Kronwall.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

How the hell do we have a better PP than a team that had Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Hossa, Franzen, Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Kronwall.

A lot of it is chemistry, all 4 of kane, Larkin, Raymond, and debrincat have great shots and are big threats to score from their positions, they all pass the puck great. Seider is great at keeping the puck in and walking the line, and is a good passer. Legit the only thing holding them back even further is seiders mediocre Shot.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

A lot of it is chemistry, all 4 of kane, Larkin, Raymond, and debrincat have great shots and are big threats to score from their positions, they all pass the puck great. Seider is great at keeping the puck in and walking the line, and is a good passer. Legit the only thing holding them back even further is seiders mediocre Shot.

wait until we add asp to that unit

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

wait until we add asp to that unit

I legit think ASP and seider should both play on the PP together. Seider is good for keeping it in and holding the line and is very good at moving the puck, he could be setting ASP up from the ovechkin spot. Plus having seider getting back if there is any odd man rushes is a lot better than if it were just ASP.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

How the hell do we have a better PP than a team that had Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Hossa, Franzen, Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Kronwall.

Power play percentages seem to be higher overall over the years. That 2003 PP % for the Wings was best in the league and a over 2 percentage points higher than the next closest team.

This season's franchise best PP% is good enough for second in the league and over 2+ percentage points behind the Jets who are at 32.6%.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

I legit think ASP and seider should both play on the PP together. Seider is good for keeping it in and holding the line and is very good at moving the puck, he could be setting ASP up from the ovechkin spot. Plus having seider getting back if there is any odd man rushes is a lot better than if it were just ASP.

yea, but who do you take off to add asp?

are you thinking what i'm thinking? 6 man power play unit!!!

 

[norrisnick]

yea, but who do you take off to add asp?

are you thinking what i'm thinking? 6 man power play unit!!!

Kane...

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Kane...

i think kane could play another year at a high level