I mean even excluding that the Pens have had a grand total of three first round picks since 2015 and two of those were 21st overall selections.Those were 2013, 2012, and 2010 respectively. This team absolutely has not, by any metric, drafted pretty well for a decade.
Yeah but that just goes back to my broader point about scouting being dogshit. Pro level scouting, both from scouts as well as the GMs, has been atrocious. Paying 1st liner prices for 3rd liners became the norm for years for this team and that kinda shit results in a famine when it comes to young, effective talent coming up through your system--and that will absolutely kill your organization sooner or later.
Dubas has overhauled a lot of that, so I guess the upside is we probably have mostly new goobers making these choices and doing our scouting nowYeah but that just goes back to my broader point about scouting being dogshit. Pro level scouting, both from scouts as well as the GMs, has been atrocious. Paying 1st liner prices for 3rd liners became the norm for years for this team and that kinda shit results in a famine when it comes to young, effective talent coming up through your system--and that will absolutely kill your organization sooner or later.
It's fine to trade 1sts and/or prospects in a win-now environment. It's not fine when you're doing that for guys like Brassard, Zucker, Kapanen, and trading back out of the 1st round for a f***ing loser like Reaves, who's arguably been the worst forward in the league since Tanner Glass.
Yeah there’s like a laundry list of guys who were studs for a training camp at 18 or 19 and ended up being complete duds.
I'm not sure if you love Malkin like you claim or hate him so much it blinds you, but I think there's a reason one post has numerous likes and you're has none.
JR hired the scouts...Says JR whiffed on a ton of picks, while saying it's not the GM's fault, it's the scouts who make the picks because a GM doesn't have time to scout every pick.
So which is it, Emp? Is it JR's fault or not?
There's a huge difference between putting your aging Stars on LTIR and trying to strong-arm them into waiving their NMCs.The thing is, we didn't even try to get out of bad contracts. I'm not going to give us a pass for signing bad contracts and then not trying to get out of them.
Luck helps, but also having the wherewithal to take advantage of those lucky breaks is a skill that our front office has lacked for several different administrations.
Still feel like Malkin could squeeze out 50+ points next year, with improved wingers. He got 50 in 68 games this year.
Barring a trade for the top 6, I think we'll see Geno with McGroarty and Rust to start the season.
Yeah, there'll be a hard emphasis on playing youth. That's one of the conditions with this hire. He needs to be on the same page as Dubas with development.
I think you try to trade him. Ideally Acciari and Hayes as well, but I don't see a trade for either until the trade deadline.
I wanna see Avery Hayes up here. Dude killed it.
Yes, me too. I hope that the new coach will give you young players much more time and opportunities to establish themselves and learn from their mistakes.
Def could. They got their 3 retention slots back next year.
I would use one on Karlsson at 50%, personally. Acciari's not worth a slot imo. You can bury 1.2M of his 2M in the minors.
Fair point. Didn’t have have Karlsson on my radar. But I also don’t think Dubas wants to retain 50% on Karlsson for that long and I also think you should give Karlsson a shot under a new coach. His value is pretty much on an all time low right now.
I don't think he will retain that much either. That's just what I would do, when we have no chance at winning rounds anytime soon and need the high draft picks.
Reports of Malkin's demise have been greatly exaggerated. The fact that he managed 50 in 68 with that supporting cast and a lot of 2nd unit PP time is borderline heroic. How amped would you be to play with a rotating combo of Bunting, Beauvillier, and Glass every night?
