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Speaking of Massachusetts, I learned from yesterday's broadcast that Phil Bourque is also from there, so he will probably keep annoying me for many years to come. Maybe he can be Sully's replacement too.
 
Will be nice if the Rangers continue to lose. They have 10 games left. 4 against duds and 6 playoff teams.

Would be nice to have two top 10 selections if they end up sending the pick over.

Who could believe Petts and DOC could be turned into a top 10 pick?
 
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Hockey4Lyfe said:
Will be nice if the Rangers continue to lose. They have 10 games left. 4 against duds and 6 playoff teams.

Would be nice to have two top 10 selections if they end up sending the pick over.

Who could believe Petts and DOC could be turned into a top 10 pick?
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If the Rangers finish with the ten overall selection after the draft lottery will they keep that pick and give the penguins their 2026 1st round pick? I think the penguins get the Rangers 1st this year, but will be around 14 to 16 overall. Not a bad haul for Dubas.
 
Hockey4Lyfe said:
Will be nice if the Rangers continue to lose. They have 10 games left. 4 against duds and 6 playoff teams.

Would be nice to have two top 10 selections if they end up sending the pick over.

Who could believe Petts and DOC could be turned into a top 10 pick?
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I seriously doubt the Rangers will give that pick up if it's top 13. They could but again doubt they will.
 
Ryder71 said:
You don't need picks or prospects to sign UFA's.
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Ryder71 said:
I totally agree they didn't want to trade him! We disagree on pretty much everything else because all Kyle has done in the past year is accrue a boatload of picks and prospects and a view toward the future.
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"He only traded away UFA's" for a boatload of picks and prospects and a view on the future.

That, and took on players for picks.

But that's okay because, I don't think they are trading either Karlsson or Rakell.
 
Ugene Magic said:
"He only traded away UFA's" for a boatload of picks and prospects and a view on the future.

That, and took on players for picks.

But that's okay because, I don't think they are trading either Karlsson or Rakell.
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He traded away Bunting, he wasn't a UFA with a 4th. He ended up with Novak a 2hd and a 4th.

EK has a five million dollar bonus paid 7/1, so didn't think he'd be moved.

Be great if they were moved however as they're clearly not helping this team win anything.
 
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Ryder71 said:
I seriously doubt the Rangers will give that pick up if it's top 13. They could but again doubt they will.
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Truly never know. The Rangers are an older team with only $10 mill in cap space and multiple players needed to be signed to field a full roster.

Unless they trade a Kreider or ZiB type contract so not only get better but get a bad contract off their books, they really don’t have much pathways to get drastically better other than simply playing better.

Their FO could see the writing on the wall and want to plan for a complete reset after next year and just accept giving the Pens the 10-12th overall pick in a bad draft…

Especially if they foresee themselves potential there to be worse or right around the same next year in a much better draft.

But truthfully, it’s a win win for the Penguins. It’s either 2 top 12 picks this year, or likely the same next year.

Only slightly negative thing is if they keep the pick to next year and the Rangers turn things around in a big way.
 
Hockey4Lyfe said:
Truly never know. The Rangers are an older team with only $10 mill in cap space and multiple players needed to be signed to field a full roster.

Unless they trade a Kreider or ZiB type contract so not only get better but get a bad contract off their books, they really don’t have much pathways to get drastically better other than simply playing better.

Their FO could see the writing on the wall and want to plan for a complete reset after next year and just accept giving the Pens the 10-12th overall pick in a bad draft…

Especially if they foresee themselves potential there to be worse or right around the same next year in a much better draft.

But truthfully, it’s a win win for the Penguins. It’s either 2 top 12 picks this year, or likely the same next year.

Only slightly negative thing is if they keep the pick to next year and the Rangers turn things around in a big way.
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If your Drury you want an immediate win for your team. Which is why if they're able to I think they'd keep it.
 
Hockey4Lyfe said:
Truly never know. The Rangers are an older team with only $10 mill in cap space and multiple players needed to be signed to field a full roster.

Unless they trade a Kreider or ZiB type contract so not only get better but get a bad contract off their books, they really don’t have much pathways to get drastically better other than simply playing better.

Their FO could see the writing on the wall and want to plan for a complete reset after next year and just accept giving the Pens the 10-12th overall pick in a bad draft…

Especially if they foresee themselves potential there to be worse or right around the same next year in a much better draft.

But truthfully, it’s a win win for the Penguins. It’s either 2 top 12 picks this year, or likely the same next year.

Only slightly negative thing is if they keep the pick to next year and the Rangers turn things around in a big way.
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There's absolutely no chance the Rangers are giving up their protected pick to the Pens this year. They are well aware it might be the end for their aging core, and they fully intend to go for it (sounds familiar?).
 
Jared Grayden said:
There's absolutely no chance the Rangers are giving up their protected pick to the Pens this year. They are well aware it might be the end for their aging core, and they fully intend to go for it (sounds familiar?).
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I tend to agree, giving up a top 13 pick when this is a win now team wouldn't make a lot of sense. If Drury passed up such a high pick he'd be tarred and feathered.
 
Jared Grayden said:
There's absolutely no chance the Rangers are giving up their protected pick to the Pens this year. They are well aware it might be the end for their aging core, and they fully intend to go for it (sounds familiar?).
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Yes. Which is exactly why they will give it to us so they have the flexibility of moving the 2026 pick with protections on it to improve their team.
 
Ryder71 said:
I tend to agree, giving up a top 13 pick when this is a win now team wouldn't make a lot of sense. If Drury passed up such a high pick he'd be tarred and feathered.
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There's a good chance it will blow up on them. They failed miserably with drafting and development during their rebuild and accelerated it largely with Fox, Trouba, and Panarin forcing their way to the team. Zibanejad, Panarin, Trocheck, Kreider all look like they might be showing age decline and if it gets worse next year they're screwed. But Dolan expects to compete with Shesterkin and will pull out all the stops to include firing everyone and making radical changes. Let's hope they embarrass themselves next year like Nashville this year. But they aren't giving up that 1st in 2025 if they don't have to.
 
Jared Grayden said:
There's a good chance it will blow up on them. They failed miserably with drafting and development during their rebuild and accelerated it largely with Fox, Trouba, and Panarin forcing their way to the team. Zibanejad, Panarin, Trocheck, Kreider all look like they might be showing age decline and if it gets worse next year they're screwed. But Dolan expects to compete with Shesterkin and will pull out all the stops to include firing everyone and making radical changes. Let's hope they embarrass themselves next year like Nashville this year. But they aren't giving up that 1st in 2025 if they don't have to.
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Great trade for us bad move by them.

Ironically, this pick could be better than the Canucks 1st.
 
Ryder71 said:
He traded away Bunting, he wasn't a UFA with a 4th. He ended up with Novak a 2hd and a 4th.

EK has a five million dollar bonus paid 7/1, so didn't think he'd be moved.

Be great if they were moved however as they're clearly not helping this team win anything.
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He brought back Novak and Schenn

then....

Schenn brought back the 2nd + 4th.

Both players going out had 1 year of term left.

Schenn forced his way out or there wouldn't be any picks. Dubas wasn't planning on trading him.
 
Ugene Magic said:
Bunting didn't bring back picks/futures.
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Indirectly he did yes. Beyond that Schen himself wasn't a UFA. Neither was Desharnias. If you wanna hold onto this ridiculous narrative you go right ahead. And if you think Rakell and EK are solutions then God help you.
 
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Jared Grayden said:
There's absolutely no chance the Rangers are giving up their protected pick to the Pens this year. They are well aware it might be the end for their aging core, and they fully intend to go for it (sounds familiar?).
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Like I said, that is good for us if it goes this way.

They aren’t getting an instant impact player in that 10-12 range.
 
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