Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXVI: Sid is Still Goat

[IcedCapp]

Chicago has no more retention slots.

l always say, “I have no more retention slots” right before eating my third donut for breakfast, and yet the weight still piles on

 

[DRAGO 18]

Looking at Twitter for some rumors, Columbus is also looking for a top-6 RW via trade before the deadline.



Columbus is asininely deep in quality young players, but that trade gets tough when we're talking about a division rival trade.

We traded Jake in division last year.

 

[Empoleon8771]

We traded Jake in division last year.

It's not about the Penguins trading Rakell in the division, it's about another team giving the Penguins significant futures in division.

 

[displacedpensfan]

Rob Blake out in LA is sounding desperate and needy, and I think he's primed to do a deal on the level of stupidity that was the Hextall Granlund trade.

Rakell + a depth piece of LA's choosing for Clarke and say...a third or fourth?

 

[Pancakes]

It's too bad the market wasn't like this when Jake was available.

I mean the package we got for him seems like it might end up fine because Brunicke and Koivunen are both looking good but going by this year's prices Jake would have brought back an insane haul

 

[TimmyD]

All this talk about leverage Dubas has. I'm/we're going to be so disappointed, aren't we?

Bingo

 

[Empoleon8771]

Just like Kings fans should be concerned that their idiot GM will trade Clarke for Rakell, Penguins fans should be concerned that their idiot GM will hold onto Rakell despite a strong market to trade him for "we want to compete" nonsensical reasons.

 

[Pancakes]

Just like Kings fans should be concerned that their idiot GM will trade Clarke for Rakell, Penguins fans should be concerned that their idiot GM will hold onto Rakell despite a strong market to trade him for "we want to compete" nonsensical reasons.

I'm sure there is some concern about Sid having nobody to play with but given that Rust is still here I don't see the big deal with moving Rakell. I would hope Dubas isn't that dumb.

 

[IcedCapp]

Can we at least get something out of this? If Dubas moves some pieces (not necessarily Raks, but “good” players with term left), will people be like, “oh I was wrong to complain about him doing nothing days before the deadline?”

And yea, if he does nothing, of course you can continue to complain

 

[Empoleon8771]

 

[IcedCapp]

I'm sure there is some concern about Sid having nobody to play with but given that Rust is still here I don't see the big deal with moving Rakell. I would hope Dubas isn't that dumb.

Sid is not dumb. He has to understand we’re not making the playoffs this season. Trade Raks and just play geno - sid - rust as a line to get sid and geno their points, and let the team lose as much as possible otherwise

 

[SEALBound]

Just like Kings fans should be concerned that their idiot GM will trade Clarke for Rakell, Penguins fans should be concerned that their idiot GM will hold onto Rakell despite a strong market to trade him for "we want to compete" nonsensical reasons.

I wonder if Dubas and Sid have had a legit discussion about how this team is bet going to compete again? Sid isn't stupid. He's been around long enough. He knows how difficult it is to get the guys needed to be competitive. He knows how tough it is to find good value FA contracts. He knows it takes assets to make trade. I'd like to know if they had a discussion based around tanking for the draft picks. Seems to me, adding Hagens/Misa and McKenna would be the quickest way to competing again. Hell, after that, you could probably even justify sending out a 1st/2nd/prospect to help the final year with Sid.

Or is Sid dense enough to think "well, we'll just sign a couple guys on July 1st and teach them how to play Penguin hockey..."

What sexually appealing tweet and discussion.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

It's too bad the market wasn't like this when Jake was available.

I mean the package we got for him seems like it might end up fine because Brunicke and Koivunen are both looking good but going by this year's prices Jake would have brought back an insane haul

What I'm most glad about is that he wasn't re-signed, locking up 72 million or w/e for no purpose until he's 38.
I loved Jake but he had to go.
And yeah, Brunicke is very much looking like a good 1st rounder. And even Koivunen might turn into something decent.

Not mad at all about that return for 20 games of Jake.

 

[Ulf5]

Sounds like Blake has a lifetime job like Sully despite mediocrity. Maybe we can trade Sully for some draft picks.

 

[Andy99]

It's too bad the market wasn't like this when Jake was available.

I mean the package we got for him seems like it might end up fine because Brunicke and Koivunen are both looking good but going by this year's prices Jake would have brought back an insane haul

Jake was a UFA however…

 

[Turin]

Rakell and Karlsson (50%) to LA for Clarke, 1st, 2nd, Moore

One stop shop

 

[Andy99]

Sid is not dumb. He has to understand we’re not making the playoffs this season. Trade Raks and just play geno - sid - rust as a line to get sid and geno their points, and let the team lose as much as possible otherwise

We need to lose all our remaining games lol…picking 5-7 in this draft is still a crapshoot…need to get into the top three ideally…

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Tampa is getting scary. Just added 2 good players to a team that has the 3rd best GD in the league.
Vasy is .924 this year. He's back. They'll have Guentzel in the playoffs now.

They may not be done for this deadline yet either.

If they do lose it's gonna be a TOUGH out.

 

[Pancakes]

Can we at least get something out of this? If Dubas moves some pieces (not necessarily Raks, but “good” players with term left), will people be like, “oh I was wrong to complain about him doing nothing days before the deadline?”

And yea, if he does nothing, of course you can continue to complain

Define "good player with term left" that isn't Raks? That pretty much covers it for our tradeable assets that could actually move. Rust ain't going anywhere. They aren't going to hurt Josh Yohe's feelings like that.

But to answer your question: Yes those same people will complain whether Dubas does something or doesn't.

 

[Turin]

Tampa is getting scary. Just added 2 good players to a team that has the 3rd best GD in the league.
Vasy is .924 this year. He's back. They'll have Guentzel in the playoffs now.

They may not be done for this deadline yet either.

If they do lose it's gonna be a TOUGH out.

Playing Florida in round one is a toughie

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Playing Florida in round one is a toughie

Could still win the division and change that. 3 points back of the Leafs. Even on games with 21 left.
Or Florida might take it and they'll get the Leafs.

 

[OnMyOwn]

I still don’t know if he gets moved. It’s entirely possible Sid really wants him as his winger for the last couple years and he’s relatively cheap.

He’s a tradeable asset, but he’s not a negative now or next year and could still be a summer trade, like EK. I dunno…I feel like it’ll just be Gryz, Beau, Acciari who get moved in deadline stuff.

 

[molon labe]

Sid is not dumb. He has to understand we’re not making the playoffs this season. Trade Raks and just play geno - sid - rust as a line to get sid and geno their points, and let the team lose as much as possible otherwise

I would be way more involved as a fan if they just did this. Give Geno Sid - give Sid Geno. They're producing but it's painfully obvious on most nights how much MORE they would produce if they had someone like the other on their lines.

I'm not getting too spun up - what I hate is the fact this team SPENT, on junk. Like, leave cap and leverage or spend cap and compete. Hiring 21 Acciari's in the pipeline was.....well the brain tank here has found no other solution other than Sullivan....and why not? Who else would enter season after season with zero offense in the bottom 6?

That's before getting to the D corps and goaltending. Though, as much as I hated the Jarry signing my only complaint there is spending any money AT ALL because I'm pretty sure we could rotate fun ECHL goalies and get the same performance.

 

[Gurglesons]

I still don’t know if he gets moved. It’s entirely possible Sid really wants him as his winger for the last couple years and he’s relatively cheap.

He’s a tradeable asset, but he’s not a negative now or next year and could still be a summer trade, like EK. I dunno…I feel like it’ll just be Gryz, Beau, Acciari who get moved in deadline stuff.

Not taking advantage of this market would be so Dubas.

 

[SEALBound]

Tampa is getting scary. Just added 2 good players to a team that has the 3rd best GD in the league.
Vasy is .924 this year. He's back. They'll have Guentzel in the playoffs now.

They may not be done for this deadline yet either.

If they do lose it's gonna be a TOUGH out.

Hard not to root for them with Jake there. And I really like Bjorkstrand as well. A Florida-Tampa ECF would be awesome.