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I think the best case scenario for the deadline is Beauvillier, Grzelcyk, Rakell and Acciari out, and even that seems pretty optimistic. They only have so many guys they can call up from WBS.

I'd be shooting for something like:

-Rakell to LA for Moore and a 2026 1st
-Beauvillier to Colorado for a 2025 4th
-Grzelcyk to Tampa for a 2026 3rd
-Acciari and a 2025 4th to Florida for Vilmanis

Once Bunting is healthy, finish the year with:

Moore-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Bemstrom
Heinen-Hayes-Tomasino
Lizotte-Ponomarev-Glass
Imama-Nieto

Shea-Letang
Kotya-Karlsson
Graves-Desharnais
POJ

Until Bunting is healthy, I'd probably call up Puustinen to replace Beauvillier. I also wouldn't mind browsing the trade market to see if another Tomasino type of player could become available for a 3rd or 4th and jump on that. They definitely have the NHL roster spots to give out those kind of opportunities, notably at RW and LD.

Vilmanis isn't anything special as a prospect, I just wanted to find a young AHLer that could allow the Penguins to call up their better young AHLers without worrying about AHL roster rules. Sourdif was the original guy that caught my eye but I don't think there's a chance that a team moves a prospect on par with Sourdif for Acciari. And I don't mean that in a way that Sourdif is some sort of special prospect :laugh:
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
I think the best case scenario for the deadline is Beauvillier, Grzelcyk, Rakell and Acciari out, and even that seems pretty optimistic. They only have so many guys they can call up from WBS.

I'd be shooting for something like:

-Rakell to LA for Moore and a 2026 1st
-Beauvillier to Colorado for a 2025 4th
-Grzelcyk to Tampa for a 2026 3rd
-Acciari and a 2025 4th to Florida for Vilmanis

Once Bunting is healthy, finish the year with:

Moore-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Bemstrom
Heinen-Hayes-Tomasino
Lizotte-Ponomarev-Glass
Imama-Nieto

Shea-Letang
Kotya-Karlsson
Graves-Desharnais
POJ

Until Bunting is healthy, I'd probably call up Puustinen to replace Beauvillier. I also wouldn't mind browsing the trade market to see if another Tomasino type of player could become available for a 3rd or 4th and jump on that. They definitely have the NHL roster spots to give out those kind of opportunities, notably at RW and LD.

Vilmanis isn't anything special as a prospect, I just wanted to find a young AHLer that could allow the Penguins to call up their better young AHLers without worrying about AHL roster rules. Sourdif was the original guy that caught my eye but I don't think there's a chance that a team moves a prospect on par with Sourdif for Acciari. And I don't mean that in a way that Sourdif is some sort of special prospect :laugh:
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I'd try to score Maccelli at the deadline if we are moving out Rakell.

He can't cost too much and we should be able to easily recoup his value.
 
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Gurglesons said:
Rust loses all trade protection and feels like a logical piece Buffalo's idiotic management would want. Plus you have the Sam Ventura connection in Buffalo.
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I suppose it is possible that we are scouting Buffalo for the off-season, but it seems like a LOT of scouting (and very early) for something that can (presumably) only happen after July 1.

But I would love to see it. If they trade one of the six core players, for me it starts with Rust all day, every day.
 
Gurglesons said:
I'd try to score Maccelli at the deadline if we are moving out Rakell.

He can't cost too much and we should be able to easily recoup his value.
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Maccelli probably costs a bit more than the 3rd/4th target I was thinking of but yeah he would definitely fit that.

They're playing Emil Bemstrom on L2, they can afford to throw 2 3rds at a team like Utah for Maccelli.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
Maccelli probably costs a bit more than the 3rd/4th target I was thinking of but yeah he would definitely fit that.

They're playing Emil Bemstrom on L2, they can afford to throw 2 3rds at a team like Utah for Maccelli.
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I don't see why Utah would let him go though.. I like the idea of picking him don't get me wrong, but at 24 why is Utah moving him for picks? It's not like they have an abondance of players like him
 
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Le Magnifique 66 said:
I don't see why Utah would let him go though.. I like the idea of picking him don't get me wrong, but at 24 why is Utah moving him for picks? It's not like they have an abondance of players like him
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He’s regressed a lot, he only has 18 points this year and is a bottom-6 player for them. For $3.5 million and not progressing as they’d want, I think he could be acquired.

Utah isn’t actually as deep in picks as you’d expect, their 2026 draft looks good (1 1st, 3 2nds and 2 3rds) but their 2025 and 2027 drafts basically have only their picks. Give them a 2025 3rd and 2027 3rd, of which the Penguins have multiple of, and I think they’d probably do that. Flip Grzelcyk for a 2027 3rd and you’d still have 2 3rds in both of those drafts after trading for Maccelli.
 
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Le Magnifique 66 said:
I don't see why Utah would let him go though.. I like the idea of picking him don't get me wrong, but at 24 why is Utah moving him for picks? It's not like they have an abondance of players like him
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He's basically just the Utah version of Tomasino. Tomato might even be the better player, but the shiny toy that's just out of reach is always more desirable than the toy in hand.

But if we can get Maccelli cheap, then why not? If they want much more than the Tomasino price, and they probably do if he is even available at all, then I'd pass.
 
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Victor Z said:
He's basically just the Utah version of Tomasino. Tomato might even be the better player, but the shiny toy that's just out of reach is always more desirable than the toy in hand.

But if we can get Maccelli cheap, then why not? If they want much more than the Tomasino price, and they probably do if he is even available at all, then I'd pass.
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I think the stylistic comparison to Tomasino is appropriate, but a big point to mention: he’s Tomasino if Tomasino had basically 2 50 point seasons before they acquired him.

I can think of a lot worse ideas than acquiring him to play him with Malkin. Trade Rakell in that LA deal too and go with:

Moore-Crosby-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Maccelli
 
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CheckingLineCenter said:
Yeah like I said - who cares. I don’t think Gretzky gives a shit that Sid took it. Doubt Sid will care if McDavid does. You think Sid is chillin in retirement one day hanging his hat on that… or the Cups and Conn Smythes and Olympic golds..

Literally the only place anyone will discuss it is on HFBoards. If that is your worry then so be it lmao

But I don’t think a retired Sid is going to be checking Reddit on the daily to see what dweebs think of his p/pg streak and how it compares across history :laugh: :laugh:
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Oh, Video Nasty cares about the record.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
Rakell is shooting 17.2% this year, which is about 6% over his career average.

With his career average shooting%, he'd be at 19 goals and 43 points in 62 games. That's a pace of 25 goals and 57 points per 82 games, which is essentially what his career average is as well (24 goals and 52 points per 82 games).

It is very obvious that Rakell's performance this year is not sustainable in the long run. He the same 25 goal, 55 point winger that's just getting good puck luck this year. That's why you sell high on him, because he's most likely reverting back to that 25 goal, 55 point winger next year.
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I agree that selling high on him before next season is ideal...if there's a good offer on the table. To me, that's a 1st round pick and a decent young asset (comparable to the Petts/DOC return). If it's less than that, I don't think it's worth moving him.

Rakell also wasn't being fed by an all-time great playmaker for most of his career, so I imagine that alone would account for his shooting percentage going up. That's an advantage he'll have next year too.
 
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I only see Beauvillier and Grzelyck for like 4th rounders. I think teams are a bit hesitant about Rakell. So maybe that's an off-season move.
Turin said:
Getting Peterka would kick ass and I don't doubt Buffalo's stupidity, but for myself I am not capable of understanding what stupidity would drive them to trade him to the Pens.
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Seravalli made it sound like ownership is in love with Peterka.
 
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BHD said:
I only see Beauvillier and Grzelyck for like 4th rounders. I think teams are a bit hesitant about Rakell. So maybe that's an off-season move.


Seravalli made it sound like ownership is in love with Peterka.
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That makes me think it’s inevitable then
 
Peterka is one of like 6 players that doesn’t suck for Buffalo so I don’t see why they’d trade him.
 
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