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DesertedPenguin said:
Yaroslav Askarov is considered one of the top young goalie prospects in the NHL. He's 22. He's played 15 NHL games, the same as Blomqvist.

Jesper Wallstedt from Minnesota is 22. He's played five games for the Wild.

Dustin Wolf is 23. Prior to this year, he played 18 total games for Calgary.

Blomqvist isn't their caliber. His development is on track for his age.
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Just to add more to the list: Levi is 23, Cossa is 22 and both these guys are in the AHL right now. Any reason to bitch and complain about the team though
 
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pensfan71 said:
Imagine giving young players a shot, them not rising to the occasion, then doing what's best for their psych and development by sending them down for proper playing time, and fans complaining :)
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This is the issue. They didn't give Blomqvist a shot. They gave him 5 starts over a 17 game sample.

His usage made no sense.

But, I guess I should trust the team that hasn't developed an internal prospect in a decade.
 
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Big Friggin Dummy said:
For the people who want to keep Rakell; if a team like the Sabres or Kraken had a 30 goal, 65pt dude who was 32 and were sitting like 5th worst in the league, would you say it was smart or dumb of them to trade the guy for a 1st+? :laugh:
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Agreed. If Dubas price is met he should be moved.

If teams do not pay up keep him.

But if I'm offered a 1st + and a cap dump that is reasonable for Rakell. I say yes.
 
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How many goalies have played in 10+ games in the NHL this year:

20-24 year old goalies: 10 goalies
25-29 year old goalies: 32 goalies
30-34 year old goalies: 20 goalies
35+ goalies: 7 goalies

It's pretty obvious based on the distribution of goalies that 20-24 year old goalies are "young" goalies that there aren't many of in the NHL. A huge majority of goalies in the NHL today (especially starters) are in the 25-31 year old range, so I don't know why anyone would try to argue that a recently turned 23 year old Blomqvist is somehow not a "young goalie".
 
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I don't think Blomqvist should be playing behind this ratf***ed system/team, and splitting time with Murashov in WBS on a team much more suited to winning is probably much better for his development.
 
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Gurglesons said:
This is the issue. They didn't give Blomqvist a shot. They gave him 5 starts over a 17 game sample.

His usage made no sense.

But, I guess I should trust the team that hasn't developed an internal prospect in a decade.
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He started in 15 games this year with an .885 save% and with a performance that has been getting worse and worse as he has played in more NHL games.
 
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KrisLetAngry said:
On this Blomquist argument.

1. Yes we didn't give him as good of a shot as he deserved.

2. He is young for a goalie and I have 0 problems calling him a prospect still.

Both can be true.
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I don't even see how this is true. 22 year old goalies aren't named the starters immediately upon making the NHL. The only starting goalies age 24 or younger in the NHL are Dostal and Wolf, and both of those guys are splitting time in about a 60/40 split with Gibson and Vladar respectively.
 
Gurglesons said:
Blomqvist and Larsson aren't "young goalies".
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Randy Butternubs said:
Blomqvist just turned 23 which is definitely young for an NHL goalie.
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Gurglesons said:
NHL starter? Yes.

Getting NHL minutes? No.
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^moving the goalposts. you said "goalie(s)"

Gurglesons said:
23 is not young for a prospect in today's NHL how ever you want to frame it.
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^moving them again. now you're saying "prospect".

Just admit you're wrong and take the L
 
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Gurglesons said:
This is the issue. They didn't give Blomqvist a shot. They gave him 5 starts over a 17 game sample.

His usage made no sense.

But, I guess I should trust the team that hasn't developed an internal prospect in a decade.
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Seems like seperate things being put together.

The past decade (Sullivan's time as GM and Franchise savior) they have been awful with development. I don't think that's really an argument.

That said that doesnt make Blomqvist not a decent prospect. He is a 23 yr old Goaltender having a down year after being one of the best goalies in the AHL last year. He is still a young prospect but stuck with an awful coach. He should be in the AHL away from this tire fire developing.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
He started in 15 games this year with an .885 save% and with a performance that has been getting worse and worse as he has played in more NHL games.
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He started in 12 games this year.

His performance didn't necessarily deserve him to play more, but that isn't really my point.

My point is that Blomqvist is going to be 24 next year. This idea that he needs to go down to the AHL and cook is fine. I have very little reason to believe additional AHL time "harms" development.

But the reality is that he's getting to the age where you start questioning if he can make the leap. That isn't this year, but he isn't a 20 year old prospect. There is a reason that the Athletic caps their prospect analysis at 23. Although, I think Wheeler caps his goalie prospect analysis at 25 to the point everyone is making.

Randy Butternubs said:
^moving the goalposts. you said "goalie(s)"



^moving them again. now you're saying "prospect".

Just admit you're wrong and take the L
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young does not equal prospect. reality seems like everyone is bored at work and arguing semantics because it's me saying it.
 
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Gurglesons said:
He started in 12 games this year.

His performance didn't necessarily deserve him to play more, but that isn't really my point.

My point is that Blomqvist is going to be 24 next year. This idea that he needs to go down to the AHL and cook is fine. I have very little reason to believe additional AHL time "harms" development.

But the reality is that he's getting to the age where you start questioning if he can make the leap. That isn't this year, but he isn't a 20 year old prospect. There is a reason that the Athletic caps their prospect analysis at 23. Although, I think Wheeler caps his goalie prospect analysis at 25 to the point everyone is making.



young does not equal prospect.
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Goalies and skaters don't follow the same timeframe in terms of development. Any goalie under 25 is still a young goalie.

He just turned 23 like 2 months ago, you're making an issue out of nothing just for the sake of complaining.
 
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FYI: I put together some numbers a season or two ago. Forward prospects are mostly NHL ready by age 22. Defense by age 23. And based on my quick checks today goalies look to be mostly ready by 23.5.

Again, note the word "mostly" which implies an average.

Gurglesons said:
young does not equal prospect. reality seems like everyone is bored at work and arguing semantics because it's me saying it.
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1000% yes that's what I'm doing :laugh:
 
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as much as I expected Jarry to be back and have thought it a good idea for Bloms development.... I still had a twinge of disappointment in my guts... ugh this team has so many players that are so unlikable lol

Just give us something to enjoy watching!!!!!
 
Empoleon8771 said:
Goalies and skaters don't follow the same timeframe in terms of development. Any goalie under 25 is still a young goalie.

He just turned 23 like 2 months ago, you're making an issue out of nothing just for the sake of complaining.
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No, I'm talking about the fact that people think Blomqvist is a young prospect when he's basically got a year or two to prove he belongs in the show.

There is also the fact that the goalie position on the team is incredibly stacked with NHL talent and prospects in our system right now.

This should create an environment where they want to see what they have with Blomqvist. Which IMO is not giving him 5 starts over a 17 game period.

Instead they are sending him down for Jarry.

When I look at our development and thought process, we are behaving like a team that is trying to make the playoffs when we are one of the worst teams in the league.
 
Gurglesons said:
23 is not young for a prospect in today's NHL how ever you want to frame it.

The fact PIT has tricked you into that mindset is just further evidence this team couldn't develop their way out of a paper bag.

At 23, you are hitting 5 years removed from your draft year. I'm not saying Blomqvist is a lost cause, but this idea that he has many more years left of seasoning is inaccurate.
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Yes I would agree that 23 isn't young for an NHL prospect.
The caveat to that are goalies, who tend to take a little longer than your skaters.
 
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Duffy13 said:
as much as I expected Jarry to be back and have thought it a good idea for Bloms development.... I still had a twinge of disappointment in my guts... ugh this team has so many players that are so unlikable lol

Just give us something to enjoy watching!!!!!
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This is the biggest thing, there's not many players on this team I enjoy rooting for. The chemistry in the room seems stale and off for the past few years. There's no dynamic personas in there that can bring the team together, which is why i love how WBS has been handled, there's some camaraderie there that should not go unnoticed
 
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Epic Neal Time said:
Despite all of the "Dubas doesn't want to trade him" / "Price is set very high" talk, I really do think we trade Rakell this week. Dubas understands where we are and understands that there is a pretty low chance Rakell is a significant contributor still when this team turns around. Players of his caliber hit walls at 32/33 all the time. If we keep him, it's because the offers were terrible. But I think a majority of the league would have interest given the term. Even teams like Buffalo and Nashville could be options.
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Im not sure Dubas understands much after the last 2 years
 
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