Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXVI: Sid is Still Goat

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Nah, not enough unless there was an additional deal in place to flip Knight for a 1st+.

Thems the breaks when you have Sid here for two more years. You can still do both. Like it's not a mandatory checkmark that you have to trade Rust and Rakell in order to rebuild.

We were less fine with Hextall because 4+ years ago they were still a playoff team that could have legitimately competed for the cup. But given the majority of the moves in the post-JR era, it's led us to being an old team with little in the cupboards. So yeah, I think most of us are fine packing it in now.

Nah, 2026 1st + decent prospect would be the minimum. If it's a 2025 1st, that prospect better be damn good or it needs to be a legit roster player.

Rakell+3rd for Mercer+1st could work
Moore+1st for Rakell is another I'd do
Rakell+4th for Bourque+2025 1st is something I'd consider.

Looking at our pool, I'd want a 2026 1st+Koivunen level of return. Or 2025 1st + McGroarty level (ignore draft pedigree).
Yeah, not sure what Karlsson's value ends up being.

The goal would be to flip Knight to a team like EDM or CHI
 
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For all the hand wringing about holding onto Rust, I feel like he'd return more in a trade in a few seasons. Maybe at the 27 or 28 deadline to a team looking for a veteran with Cup experience. Fewer seasons left on his contract, less of a cap %, and all that...
 
San Jose only got the Granlund, Rutta, Hoffman and the Penguins 1st for Karlsson and the Penguins 1st was projected to be around 20th overall after adding Karlsson.
To be fair, the Sharks then turned Granlund into a 1st round pick, so the value turned out reasonably well for them, after all.

That said, I don't think that means the Pens will really get any great offers for Karlsson, just figured I'd point that out!

We are clearly rebuilding.

At the same time:

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I mean, that quote is from Yohe, and it's even phrased as his own opinion, so...
 
While I like Yohe more than most on here, he doesn't exactly break news.

I think someone like Chris Johnston - and certainly Friedman and LeBrun - is more tapped in to trade rumors.

And he now has Rakell at No. 2 on his trade board for the Athletic. Beauvillier and Karlsson are two of the last three on the list, by the way.


Here's what he said about Rakell:
Well on his way to topping 30 goals and 60 points this season, Rakell may be the most productive offensive player available ahead of this deadline. The right-shot winger is an above-average finisher who has a history of holding his own when playing alongside highly skilled linemates. With three years remaining on his contract after this one, the usual caveats apply: The Penguins do not have to move Rakell now, but they’d be willing to do it if the return helped them push along their organizational goal of getting younger. He’s signed to an extremely reasonable contract in a rising cap environment.
 
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If Dubas trades Karlsson, that is a firable offense. You don't trade a player of his caliber when his value is this low. That is just dumb. Also, HE is the guy who brought him to Pittsburgh. He should not be the guy to trade him away.

Can Dubas stick to one lane or is he going to continue to race down the autobahn of suckitude?

Geeses f^#@ing crist!

While I like Yohe more than most on here, he doesn't exactly break news.

I think someone like Chris Johnston - and certainly Friedman and LeBrun - is more tapped in to trade rumors.

And he now has Rakell at No. 2 on his trade board for the Athletic. Beauvillier and Karlsson are two of the last three on the list, by the way.


Here's what he said about Rakell:
Well on his way to topping 30 goals and 60 points this season, Rakell may be the most productive offensive player available ahead of this deadline. The right-shot winger is an above-average finisher who has a history of holding his own when playing alongside highly skilled linemates. With three years remaining on his contract after this one, the usual caveats apply: The Penguins do not have to move Rakell now, but they’d be willing to do it if the return helped them push along their organizational goal of getting younger. He’s signed to an extremely reasonable contract in a rising cap environment.
If I hear the words, "organizational goal of getting younger" one more time...
 

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