Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXV - Poolman and Poolparty?!?

[SEALBound]

I don't see the point in bringing in a prospect like Bourque if we are going to tank.

Bourque ain't preventing us from a tank. He'd be a nice 3C if we manage to get Misa and McKenna.

 

[Coastal Kev]

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20M in cap space to go sign a stud RW and LD seems dooable. I'd throw 14M at Marner or Rantanen. 8+ at Boeser or Ehlers. LD UFAs are slim pickings. Gavrikov, Chychrun or Lindgren maybe.

10 million for Hayes, Lizotte, Acciari and Heinen.... puke

Would love to see them all gone replaced by the wbs GANG

 

[Pancakes]

If Desharnais can help stablize our bottom pairing that'll go a long way.

Doesn't look too bad so far

 

[DesertPenguin]

10 million for Hayes, Lizotte, Acciari and Heinen.... puke

Would love to see them all gone replaced by the wbs GANG

Stuck with Hayes, Heinen, Acciari for another year, though I think Heinen can be a utility forward up and down the lineup. Lizotte is not part of the problem, he's part of the solution. And really 2/4 of those guys should be healthy scratches for the kids.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Doesn't look too bad so far

Just wait til he learns the "system."

 

[Turin]

It's actually wild how many things the team can do in the offseason if they trade Karlsson. They can basically sign whoever they want and have cap space to spare.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Well MP was traded a week later. And the Rantanen trade took months according to Tulsky.


Not that I think Weekes knows anything lol.

Lol I know, but this is Weekes' whole schtick. He posts these things and if nothing happens, people forget about it. If something does happen he pretends he had inside information. He is the Downtown Clay Davis of hockey news.

 

[Andy99]

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Can't disagree with that. Especially some retention to get a better return.

I'd definitely be calling Chychurn up as a UFA D.

 

[Ulf5]

Can't disagree with that. Especially some retention to get a better return.

I'd definitely be calling Chychurn up as a UFA D.

I agree on Chychrun. With the bump in cap though, I wouldn't be surprised if he got $8 million per year. Is 57 games per year worth that?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

I agree on Chychrun. With the bump in cap though, I wouldn't be surprised if he got $8 million per year. Is 57 games per year worth that?

Played 82 for Ottawa last year. The year prior Arizona sat him games so he wasn't hurt. So that's a tad unfair to the guy and his games.

Honestly I would. If he is hurt that means we just suck right? We need to hit the floor and what better way for a D who misses games.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I agree on Chychrun. With the bump in cap though, I wouldn't be surprised if he got $8 million per year. Is 57 games per year worth that?

He did play 82 last year in Ottawa, like you said he will definitely get more than he should given the circumstances of the cap going up in the next 3 years. Honestly, it all depends what we do with our current D's like EK and Letang. I would definitely be interested but I'm scared he ends up being another Paul Martin

 

[The Old Master]

I'd definitely be calling Chychrun up as a UFA D.

why? we don't want to improve this team till we get our new core. having chychrun would only make it harder and extend our rebuild if not putting us into a long drawn out stuck in the middle hell.

 

[Turin]

why? we don't want to improve this team till we get our new core. having chychrun would only make it harder and extend our rebuild if not putting us into a long drawn out stuck in the middle hell.

I think the team wants to be genuinely competitive again by 2027.

 

[Ulf5]

Played 82 for Ottawa last year. The year prior Arizona sat him games so he wasn't hurt. So that's a tad unfair to the guy and his games.

Honestly I would. If he is hurt that means we just suck right? We need to hit the floor and what better way for a D who misses games.

That's 1 full healthy season out of 7 lol. The rest aren't even close. But maybe with the rate Penguins players get hurt he'll stay healthy.

 

[SEALBound]

I would love Chychrun here...but why would he want to come here?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Being a terrible team is awful for the development of young players, both from the aspects of not having veteran leadership being able to guide the young guys and putting young guys in too high of a position and setting them up to fail. You want to bring in a veteran top-4 D like Chychrun to insulate Pickering, because putting Pickering in too high of a role could ruin his confidence and make his development stall or regress.

That doesn't necessarily mean that you need to get the best players you can, but the idea of being as bad as possible in the names of getting a chance at the highest draft pick is not an appropriate way to build the team. Chicago is still dealing with issues right now for doing that, even after pulling off Bedard.

 

[Gurglesons]

I would love Chychrun here...but why would he want to come here?

Dubas does something cool for once and offers him like 12-13 million x 2.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I think the team wants to be genuinely competitive again by 2027.

I want to get paid a million dollars for nothing too, but nobody takes that into consideration.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Dubas does something cool for once and offers him like 12-13 million x 2.

This is exactly what he should be doing. A bunch of high AAV, short term for players to help ease prospects into the NHL and then let the prospects take over for them once their deals are done.

I would love Chychrun here...but why would he want to come here?

I think people overstate the importance that winning has to a lot of NHL players. Bad teams can still sign UFAs, they usually just have to pay more money.

Chicago signed Bertuzzi, Teravainen, Brodie and Martinez last off-season despite being a terrible team.

 

[Gurglesons]

This is exactly what he should be doing. A bunch of high AAV, short term for players to help ease prospects into the NHL and then let the prospects take over for them once their deals are done.

Also you retain and get a third party involved to trade them.

 

[SEALBound]

Being a terrible team is awful for the development of young players, both from the aspects of not having veteran leadership being able to guide the young guys and putting young guys in too high of a position and setting them up to fail. You want to bring in a veteran top-4 D like Chychrun to insulate Pickering, because putting Pickering in too high of a role could ruin his confidence and make his development stall or regress.

That doesn't necessarily mean that you need to get the best players you can, but the idea of being as bad as possible in the names of getting a chance at the highest draft pick is not an appropriate way to build the team. Chicago is still dealing with issues right now for doing that, even after pulling off Bedard.

Yeah, we should be going out of our way to not be Chicago if we get a high pick. Which is why would should be trying to season some of our AHL guys right now. So that if you get, say, McKenna, you have a couple young guys to put around him that aren't wide-eyed and timid when facing off against NHL juggernauts. Nor do you have to sign the corpses of Perry or Foligno.

Dubas does something cool for once and offers him like 12-13 million x 2.

Would you be willing to sign an affidavit that states if Dubas DOES do that, as stated, and you bitch about it, that you would be willing to leave this site forever, under penalty of law?

 

[Ulf5]

Dubas does something cool for once and offers him like 12-13 million x 2.

Would you be willing to sign an affidavit that states if Dubas DOES do that, as stated, and you bitch about it, that you would be willing to leave this site forever, under penalty of law?

Lol, I give it a week tops.

 

[Gurglesons]

Would you be willing to sign an affidavit that states if Dubas DOES do that, as stated, and you bitch about it, that you would be willing to leave this site forever, under penalty of law?

I've given Dubas plenty of compliments.

It's not my fault you just want to regurgitate this idea that I don't.

 

[Empoleon8771]

On Chychrun specifically, I don't think you'd be able to get him to sign. I think he'll use this year as a case to get a long-term deal, I don't think he'd risk taking a short term deal after the great year he's having. He's likely signing for something like 7x7 or higher.

However, I think you can get Orlov at a high AAV, short term deal due to his age. Orlov is turning 34 this off-season and is still an effective top-4 D. I think you can easily get him for a 2 year, high AAV deal to play with EK until Karlsson's deal is done. It would give you this D group for next year:

Orlov-Karlsson
Pickering-Letang
Graves/POJ-Desharnais

If Pickering struggles and needs more seasoning in the AHL, promote POJ to the 2nd pair and have Graves-Desharnais as the 3rd pair. I think it's a no brainer to do that with Orlov, basically out-bid anyone for him and plan on having him and Karlsson as a pair until you trade one or both.

At forward, I don't really see anyone that sticks out to me as a "short term, high AAV" guy I think the Penguins could get signed and makes sense for them to sign. Trading Rakell and signing Marchand to play with Crosby is a hilariously good idea, but there's no chance Marchand leaves Boston to sign with the Penguins. He's 100% going cup chasing if he's leaving Boston.