Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXV - Poolman and Poolparty?!?

[sovietsanta87]

Avs are the ideal team?

If I was one of the best wingers in the game I would choose Colorado first. They’re cup contenders. Playing alongside one of the best centers in the game. With a defenseman that slowly building a portfolio to being one of the best of all time. Not to mention they have the experience of already winning one cup. Denver > Edmonton Winnipeg You can argue other teams are more ideal but to me it’s Colorado

Even setting aside the Marner talk for a second, the Penguins are in a position in the next couple of years where they'll likely have to be handing out significant contracts in UFA, just because they won't have any more highly paid players. Even next year, they're sitting at $65 million without making and moves and $15 million under the cap floor. With cheap guys like McGroarty and Koivunen looking to play notable roles next year and veterans that will be moved, they may have to hand out big bucks in open positions.

I think the idea I like the most is splurging on defense, specifically giving Fabbro and Chychrun long-term deals. The Penguins D prospect pool is pretty limited beyond Brunicke, Pickering and Pieniniemi, and you'll need guys capable of eating minutes to insulate the young guys. Fabbro and Chychrun are both barely UFA ages, where they'll only be 27 when they're signing their deals. I'd easily give Chychrun like a 6x7 deal and Fabbro a 6x4 deal and just keep that as a pair for as long as I can. I'd personally trade Karlsson for futures and go with:

Pickering-Letang
Chychrun-Fabbro
Graves-POJ

Eventually Brunicke comes up and replaces Letang once he retires.

Is that assuming Sullivan is gone?

 

[Ulf5]

Okay, sure. But what about the rest of these guys? Is he going to ignite them as well?
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Apparently Frost and Farabee weren't going to elevate his or the team's play

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Yeah all those top tier UFAs we have signed since 2005. Like….

Gonchar and…

That offseason we got Martin AND Michalek at the same time was a dream.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Yeah all those top tier UFAs we have signed since 2005. Like….

Gonchar and…

This argument is misleading. The Pens haven't been interested in most top tier UFAs because they already had top tier players or chose to pursue players via trade who they later re-signed.

That said, Michalek and Martin were both big signings, though Michalek didn't work out here.

 

[Ulf5]

To be honest if Marner hits free agency I wouldn't be totally shocked to see Dubas explore that.

What would shock me is Marner deciding to come here. I know he's friends with Sid but our future is dire.

Not after we sign Laine first lololol.

 

[SomeDude]

Not after we sign Laine first lololol.

He has another year left on his deal with Montreal.

 

[Ulf5]

He has another year left on his deal with Montreal.

Damn it, wrong Jet lol. Ehlers ha.

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

That offseason we got Martin AND Michalek at the same time was a dream.

That was very cool. Always sad we never won a Cup with Martin.

 

[Ulf5]

Sure hope it's better than that last reported shitty offer.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Good lord finally

 

[Gurglesons]

This argument is misleading. The Pens haven't been interested in most top tier UFAs because they already had top tier players or chose to pursue players via trade who they later re-signed.

That said, Michalek and Martin were both big signings, though Michalek didn't work out here.

Michalek and Martin aren’t big signings. They are depth guys who got paid full value.

 

[Ulf5]

 

[Gurglesons]

If I was one of the best wingers in the game I would choose Colorado first. They’re cup contenders. Playing alongside one of the best centers in the game. With a defenseman that slowly building a portfolio to being one of the best of all time. Not to mention they have the experience of already winning one cup. Denver > Edmonton Winnipeg You can argue other teams are more ideal but to me it’s Colorado


Is that assuming Sullivan is gone?

Avs have made one WCF. Super mid team very reminiscent of us circa 2010-2015 tbh.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

If Marner actually had any interest in playing for a rebuilding team, he would easily choose Chicago instead imo. Bigger city, and can immediately play with Bedard for the next few years.

Another reason to tank this year.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Michalek and Martin aren’t big signings. They are depth guys who got paid full value.

They were two of the top defensemen available that year.

LeBrun: Top defensemen set to hit free-agent market

The 2010 NHL free-agent market opens at noon ET on Thursday. Here's a look at the top defensemen who are set to become available.

www.espn.com

 

[sovietsanta87]

They were two of the top defensemen available that year.

LeBrun: Top defensemen set to hit free-agent market

The 2010 NHL free-agent market opens at noon ET on Thursday. Here's a look at the top defensemen who are set to become available.

www.espn.com

Yeah but we signed them so it doesn’t count

 

[Randy Butternubs]

BUT MY EP40 DREAM

 

[DesertedPenguin]

 

[Pancakes]

Lol if that's the return for Miller we'll be lucky to get jack shit for Marcus Pettersson.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Nobody's gonna want to sign on to a team that's been dead and buried for years and is gonna hit absolute rock bottom in the standings once Sid retires. The "well, Marner might..." stuff is sad, man.

He'll either go to a contender on a sweetheart deal so he has a shot at competing, or he'll go to some team like San Jose or Chicago to play with Celebrini or Bedard as those teams try and climb back into relevance.

There's zero reason for this team to throw the kinda contract at him that they'd need to in order to even generate interest, and even less of a reason for him to take it imo. /shrug

 

[DesertedPenguin]

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Lol if that's the return for Miller we'll be lucky to get jack shit for Marcus Pettersson.

JT Miller's a malcontent who f***ed up the Canucks lockerroom so badly Tocchet and JR were shitting on him publicly. Coupled with a full NMC, you're not getting much for that kinda guy.

Petts probably isn't bringing back jack shit because he's having a dogshit year.

 

[Ulf5]

Lol if that's the return for Miller we'll be lucky to get jack shit for Marcus Pettersson.

Meh, JT had a full NMC and complete control over where he went. Big difference.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Lol if that's the return for Miller we'll be lucky to get jack shit for Marcus Pettersson.

Miller has a full NMC and Canucks aren't retaining. He's an outlier in the market.