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Salary Cap: '24-'25 Salary Thread: Crosbicles Volume MMXXV - Poolman and Poolparty?!?

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Empoleon8771 said:
Here is Rosen's scouting report from Wheeler's 2024 write-up of the Sabres prospect pool.



Rosen was just on the outside of Wheeler's top-100 list in the off-season. This write-up makes me feel he has 20 goal, 50 point 2nd liner upside, but just with a bit less risk than Koivunen. So he'd rank just above Koivunen but that's mostly based on him not having skating issues, the two seem to have similar upsides.



Rosen seems like a fairly standard mid/late 1st type of prospect to draft. He was likely overdrafted a bit at #14 but seems like a fairly standard 1st round caliber prospect.
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Yeah, I have no problems with Rosen per se. He seems like a fine complimentary top 9 guy like Rackell. He just seems like, ideally, the kind of piece you add once you get the other framework to build around.
 
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BergevinBurner said:
Maybe if they shed enough pieces then Crosby would want out for one more run at the cup while keeping a future coaching/front office jobs on the table with the Pens. I know it's not black and white but if they hold onto Crosby/Malkin/Letang/Karlsson/etc... I'd be worried about them being stuck in no man's land, outside of the playoffs and outside the bottom 5 for the next few years.

But if Management was to bite the bullet and fully commit, then in 2 years time you guys could be walking away with one of McKenna/DuPont + a top 5 pick + an abundance of 1sts you gathered from the sell off. I could see your prospect pool being among the top of the league as soon as the summer of 2027 with a bit of luck. But if most of the vets stick around and you pick in the 5-15 range for the next 3 drafts it leaves you in a bit of an awkward spot.

I don't see any big moves happening while they're in the hunt this season though obviously.
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It's simply not happening.
 
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I don't understand why other fans are obsessed with the Penguins trading Crosby or Malkin to have the Penguins bottom out right now. They're already bad with Crosby and Malkin and their NMCs basically ensure you wouldn't get that much value back for them, even with how good Crosby is. What's the point of even trading him?

Sending Crosby to Colorado for Mittelstadt and a late 1st isn't worth it over keeping Crosby as a 1 team guy.
 
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We’ve been over this. Only way Crosby gets traded is if he wants to be traded, which is unlikely.

Any validity to Madden saying Malkin is done after this year?
 
Big Friggin Dummy said:
They better keep a defib around Madden when Geno announces he's hanging 'em up.

Or, y'know, don't. :laugh:
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I mean it's just funny to me that more than likely Evgeni Malkin is going to be pushed out the door even if he does fairly well next season (you never know if they do something like stick him next to Crosby all year) and Kris Letang plays another like two or maybe even three trash seasons here while he already looks every bit as dusted or worse.
 
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BlindWillyMcHurt said:
I mean it's just funny to me that more than likely Evgeni Malkin is going to be pushed out the door even if he does fairly well next season (you never know if they do something like stick him next to Crosby all year) and Kris Letang plays another like two or maybe even three trash seasons here while he already looks every bit as dusted or worse.
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If Geno wants to be back I can't see a world in which they don't keep him going on 1 year deals. I'm not sure he does. It probably depends on how the team does next year. If they inject a lot of young talent, make the playoffs and look like a team that could make noise the year following, I'd assume he comes back. If we are still circling the drain, Magnitogorsk it is!.
 
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DesertPenguin said:
If Geno wants to be back I can't see a world in which they don't keep him going on 1 year deals. I'm not sure he does. It probably depends on how the team does next year. If they inject a lot of young talent, make the playoffs and look like a team that could make noise the year following, I'd assume he comes back. If we are still circling the drain, Magnitogorsk it is!.
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I rather doubt it will even be an issue as he is likely to retire regardless. But I dunno... I could see him possibly doing decent (within context) next season, getting that competitive fire re-lit and thinking he can offer something for another season and the Penguins saying "nah." I really don't think Mike Sullivan is a big fan despite all the commentary to the contrary and in fact I somewhat doubt he wanted him back to begin with.

All 100% speculative on my part of course. Just based on the dynamic between the two throughout the years.
 
DesertPenguin said:
If Geno wants to be back I can't see a world in which they don't keep him going on 1 year deals. I'm not sure he does. It probably depends on how the team does next year. If they inject a lot of young talent, make the playoffs and look like a team that could make noise the year following, I'd assume he comes back. If we are still circling the drain, Magnitogorsk it is!.
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Interesting aspect to the rumored separation/divorce from his wife. I believe she's a well-known Russian TV personality. If they are indeed split and she still spends a lot of time in Russia, what happens to the kid? Everyone knows Geno adores him more than anything.
 
I mean, as much as people dislike goons (I get it, even if I don’t share that sentiment) a goon goes out for 7 minutes a night and does his job and has an effect on someone’s face. Acciari does literally nothing on ice for nearly twice the amount of time per night. :laugh:
 
From a poster on another site…

“I listened to Madden on the drive home today, and he had our very own Jesse Marshall on talking about the trade deadline and how various prospects looked. Some things that struck me:

--Jesse likes the idea of Pettersson going to Vancouver for Hoglander + a pick. He thinks Hoglander is the type of player Dubas is targeting who is youngish, has skill, and just isn't fitting in with his current team for some reason.

--He does think Dubas is interested in a deal with Buffalo, since they have a lot of good prospects who seem close to NHL-ready. But, like a lot of us, Jesse wasn't sure what we have that Buffalo would want. The only guy he thought that sort of made sense was Rakell, but he wasn't sure he would really interest Buffalo, and he didn't think they'd deal Crosby's best winger again. He said he could see Rakell moved but probably not until summer.

--Outside of Pettersson, he thought that Beauvillier and O'Conner could have interest around the league at the deadline but obviously wouldn't bring a huge return.

Madden then asked him which prospects he thought would come up once some guys are dealt.

--Jesse really likes Broz and thinks he might be up already if he didn't have mono. He said he reminds him a bit of Rust.

--Then, next up for him would Koivunen. He thought Koivunen might have difficulty adjusting to the North American game and might be too much east/west stylistically, but he said that he's been pleasantly surprised by how quickly he goes north/south and doesn't shy away from mucking it up on the boards or near the crease. He thinks he'll be a good NHLer.

--He was a bit disappointed by Ponomarev but said he could be a Teddy Bleuger type--good 4C and ok 3C in a pinch.

--The most surprising thing was when Madden asked him who was most likely to be the Pens starting goalie in 3 years, Murashov or Blomqvist, Jesse said Larsson. He thought Murashov has real problems with rebound control, and Blomqvist has real problems with high shots to the far post (glove or blocker), whereas Larsson looks like the total package and has the size of a prototypical modern NHL goalie.”
 
JR, Alvin and Tochett really let the season get away from them by letting the rumours spiral but not doing anything. I doubt Pettersson is going there at this point
 
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