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Granlund was really tanking in Nashville too.

Yeah, but I also wouldn’t call Nashville well-coached either. My larger point isn’t even that Granlund is good, it’s just that these kinds of players are really dependent on the team and situation to produce. So you need to use those kinds of players properly for them to have any benefit at all.
 
Like the players or not, if they leave the Pens and immediately rebound, that is on the coach.
I 100% agree Sullivan shares some of the blame here, but Hextall was mainly at fault. They needed a 3C capable of playing with heavy defensive usage and he went out and got Granlund :help: Sullivan's stubbornness prevented him from at least trying to find a better spot for Granlund, which has been a common theme of his, but it was a terrible trade from a team needs and/or player evaluation point of view.
 
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Like the players or not, if they leave the Pens and immediately rebound, that is on the coach.

Yohe says no in his latest article butt-kissing Sullivan…read it and weep lol…oh and nothing new…same thing we all heard: UFAs Petts and DOC gone and no one else lol

“Earlier this season, many people believed coach Mike Sullivan was on the hot seat because of the Penguins’ horrible start.

He never was. That doesn’t mean Sullivan is bulletproof, of course. I suppose if the Penguins plummeted to the bottom of the standings and Sullivan lost control of the locker room, sure, he could be terminated. Stranger things have happened.

The fact is, however, that the Penguins front office is very pleased with the job Sullivan has done. The front office understands that many of the goaltending issues were not his fault. The Penguins also have largely cleaned up their defensive messes from earlier this season. The Penguins’ future Hall of Famers love Sullivan. And he has overseen noticeable improvement in recent weeks from young players such as O’Connor, Phil Tomasino and Cody Glass.”

 
I 100% agree Sullivan shares some of the blame here, but Hextall was mainly at fault. They needed a 3C capable of playing with heavy defensive usage and he went out and got Granlund :help: Sullivan's stubbornness prevented him from at least trying to find a better spot for Granlund, which has been a common theme of his, but it was a terrible trade from a team needs and/or player evaluation point of view.

I mean, they shouldn’t have gotten Granlund, sure. But at the end of the day, a coach’s responsibility is to make the roster work with the players he has, not turn the players he has into ZAR.

Hextall trading for Granlund was an unforced error, Sullivan trying to make him into a pking 3C is just malpractice.

Yohe says no in his latest article butt-kissing Sullivan…read it and weep lol…oh and nothing new…same thing we all heard: UFAs Petts and DOC gone and no one else lol

“Earlier this season, many people believed coach Mike Sullivan was on the hot seat because of the Penguins’ horrible start.

He never was. That doesn’t mean Sullivan is bulletproof, of course. I suppose if the Penguins plummeted to the bottom of the standings and Sullivan lost control of the locker room, sure, he could be terminated. Stranger things have happened.

The fact is, however, that the Penguins front office is very pleased with the job Sullivan has done. The front office understands that many of the goaltending issues were not his fault. The Penguins also have largely cleaned up their defensive messes from earlier this season. The Penguins’ future Hall of Famers love Sullivan. And he has overseen noticeable improvement in recent weeks from young players such as O’Connor, Phil Tomasino and Cody Glass.”


Yohe’s such a toad. :laugh:
 
Yeah, again I go back to the snippet from Leonsis' biography I saw floating around on twitter a while ago. He basically said McPhee got sick of Dale Hunter and Adam Oates' approach to coaching and he told them flat out "You have to coach the team you're given, not coach the team you wish you had."

Would love for Dubas to have the guts to say that to Sullivan. Or better yet, f***ing fire his ass after nearly a decade of failures.
 
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I think Yohe's probably correct that they won't see any major trades in the season because they only have 1 retention slot left and they might want to use it on Pettersson to expand his market. That said, I think Karlsson is as good as gone this off-season, specifically after his July signing bonus is paid out. They'll pay out his signing bonus and trade him after with retention so any team acquiring him will only owe him like $7 million over 2 years.

Yohe also seems to think there would be a market for Letang if Letang wanted to move on, which I don't believe because Letang's contract is horrendous.
 
I think Yohe's probably correct that they won't see any major trades in the season because they only have 1 retention slot left and they might want to use it on Pettersson to expand his market. That said, I think Karlsson is as good as gone this off-season, specifically after his July signing bonus is paid out. They'll pay out his signing bonus and trade him after with retention so any team acquiring him will only owe him like $7 million over 2 years.

Yohe also seems to think there would be a market for Letang if Letang wanted to move on, which I don't believe because Letang's contract is horrendous.

Meh I could see Letang being traded for like a 7th to a team like San Jose. I could see a market. He wont have value but a team with infinite cap space and young players might take him on as a leadership role. The actual money owed drops off a bit starting next year.

Also a team trying to get to the floor might take him for his hit since he is actually paid less.
 
Yeah, again I go back to the snippet from Leonsis' biography I saw floating around on twitter a while ago. He basically said McPhee got sick of Dale Hunter and Adam Oates' approach to coaching and he told them flat out "You have to coach the team you're given, not coach the team you wish you had."

Would love for Dubas to have the guts to say that to Sullivan. Or better yet, f***ing fire his ass after nearly a decade of failures.
I feel like this is a problem with most coaches - in most sports. Something has worked to get them to the level they're at, and they fear if they abandon it they'll have no idea what to do and be out of a job. If you stick to your guns, you might get fired, but you'll almost certainly be hired again in the NHL because of how hard it is to break in as an HC. If you lose the sauce that got you there, get ready to learn Swiss-German buddy.
 

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