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Imo they gotta try to move up to that 2-4 spot with almost any combo of realistic assets they have. They need an almost surefire 1C and that's one of Hagens or Misa. The Bruins aren't gonna pick close to top 10 again without bad injuries based on Pasta, Mac/Lindholm and Sway alone. They gotta make a move and get that elite talent or it will be years of being a mediocre bubble team wasting away. Neither Eichel or McDavid are coming to Boston, they have to find the missing link in the draft and weak draft or not you gotta find that 1C this offseason. Tough job for Sweeney for sure.
 
Imo they gotta try to move up to that 2-4 spot with almost any combo of realistic assets they have. They need an almost surefire 1C and that's one of Hagens or Misa. The Bruins aren't gonna pick close to top 10 again without bad injuries based on Pasta, Mac/Lindholm and Sway alone. They gotta make a move and get that elite talent or it will be years of being a mediocre bubble team wasting away. Neither Eichel or McDavid are coming to Boston, they have to find the missing link in the draft and weak draft or not you gotta find that 1C this offseason. Tough job for Sweeney for sure.
Poitras, Mittelstadt, Zacha, Peeke are you only moveable assets (no protections or partial NMC/NTC) that are ready for NHL mins right now. Everybody else is locked up, is is named Lohrei.
I like Mittelstadt, and would enjoy seeing him a little next year before moving him if possible. The other names I would easily include to trade for #2/#3
 
We want the Bruins using their highest draft pick aside from Phil Kessel and Seguin in decades on someone who projects to be a middle 6 center of which the Bruins have little issue finding themselves?

They need a top line center to build around.

Seeing the words "safe and secure" reeks of Frederic/Beecher again but higher in the line up.

That is exactly my thought process as well.

Two-way ability? You can find that via trade, free agency, etc.

What this team needs is more touch, speed and ability to drive play. Those are skill-sets typically found in the upper part of the draft and very challenging to acquire via trade or free agency.
 
Because of always injured? And chronic back concerns? No doubt he has great potential, and maybe he delivers on it. Missing most of this season has made evaluation tougher. If he plays, and plays well for a couple months, there is a good chance he is long gone before Boston picks
I take those types of injuries with a grain of salt when you consider the kids age, high height relative to weight, and support staff not being NHL quality


has he had any back surgeries? that's when I'd worry
 
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If you can, or simply want to comment, would you bring Mitch marner to Boston?

Generally I am not four players with this sort of profile (sic), but the guy is a reliable point machine, I believe he's 28, just turned 28, and if all you're looking for is pure offense, I would do it.

I wonder if he, or the Bruins, have any interest in this scenario,

 
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If you can, or simply want to comment, would you bring Mitch marner to Boston?

Generally I am not four players with this sort of profile (sic), but the guy is a reliable point machine, I believe he's 28, just turned 28, and if all you're looking for is pure offense, I would do it.

I wonder if he, or the Bruins, have any interest in this scenario,

I wanted him while Marchand was here. I thought Brad could have maybe brought some fire to his game.

Not sure anymore with this current leadership group.

He isn't just pure offense either, he plays good d, he just lacks passion.
 
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Imo they gotta try to move up to that 2-4 spot with almost any combo of realistic assets they have. They need an almost surefire 1C and that's one of Hagens or Misa. The Bruins aren't gonna pick close to top 10 again without bad injuries based on Pasta, Mac/Lindholm and Sway alone. They gotta make a move and get that elite talent or it will be years of being a mediocre bubble team wasting away. Neither Eichel or McDavid are coming to Boston, they have to find the missing link in the draft and weak draft or not you gotta find that 1C this offseason. Tough job for Sweeney for sure.

It's very hard it is to move up to 2-4 spot. Lets look at the #4 spot since it'd be easier and assume the Bruins land at #9OA like Tankathon shows them.

Pick Value
#4OA - 55.24
#9OA - 36.66

That's a difference of 18.59 in value. Based on the value chart, that's equal to the #20OA pick. What asset on this team that we'd be willing to trade is worth a mid/late 1st rounder? Now the #2OA pick is even harder....

Pick Value
#2OA - 72.69
#9OA - 36.66

That's a difference of 36.03 or basically another top 10 pick. Again there is nothing this team is willing to trade that's worth a top 10 pick.
 
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If you can, or simply want to comment, would you bring Mitch marner to Boston?

Generally I am not four players with this sort of profile (sic), but the guy is a reliable point machine, I believe he's 28, just turned 28, and if all you're looking for is pure offense, I would do it.

I wonder if he, or the Bruins, have any interest in this scenario,

If you asked me 3 months ago I would've said HELL NO. But, that was then, this is now. The Bruins are sorely lacking in his type of talent. IIRC Nathan Horton was accused of not having good playoffs but he became a huge part of the B's in their run to the Cup.
Furthermore, I'd rather have Marner here for the price then 2 31+ year old guys who simply want their payday and then spend the next few years barely earning their pay getting an occasional goal and a fight every month or two.
Playing with a low-idle guy like Austin Matthews must be like taking a tranquillizer an hour before the game. This team needs players who can fill certain roles and scoring goals is too dependent on Pasta. 200 foot players can be had in trade and later in the draft (after picking a C1 in round one).
 
I wanted him while Marchand was here. I thought Brad could have maybe brought some fire to his game.

Not sure anymore with this current leadership group.

He isn't just pure offense either, he plays good d, he just lacks passion.
That’s a really good point, we don’t exactly have someone for him to lookup to and keep him in check per se. More often than not, there’s a vet to help with that during Free Agency. I’ll believe Marchand is gone officially when the puck drops in October.

That said, when’s the next chance you have to acquire a 90+ point guy like that entering/in his prime? We already know what one of those players can do with middle 6 centers (Pasta) so if you can’t fix yourself down the middle, and you have an issue putting pucks in the net, you’re going to have a hard time convincing me we shouldn’t get him for reasons other than money. He immediately gives us a top of the league deadly line regardless who centers.
 
It's very hard it is to move up to 2-4 spot. Lets look at the #4 spot since it'd be easier and assume the Bruins land at #9OA like Tankathon shows them.

Pick Value
#4OA - 55.24
#9OA - 36.66

That's a difference of 18.59 in value. Based on the value chart, that's equal to the #20OA pick. What asset on this team that we'd be willing to trade is worth a mid/late 1st rounder? Now the #2OA pick is even harder....

Pick Value
#2OA - 72.69
#9OA - 36.66

That's a difference of 36.03 or basically another top 10 pick. Again there is nothing this team is willing to trade that's worth a top 10 pick.
I'm not discounting the difficulty of the situation, I just think it's what Sweeney needs to find a way to accomplish this season or next if the Bruins want a retool over a rebuild.
 
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If you asked me 3 months ago I would've said HELL NO. But, that was then, this is now. The Bruins are sorely lacking in his type of talent. IIRC Nathan Horton was accused of not having good playoffs but he became a huge part of the B's in their run to the Cup.
Furthermore, I'd rather have Marner here for the price then 2 31+ year old guys who simply want their payday and then spend the next few years barely earning their pay getting an occasional goal and a fight every month or two.
Playing with a low-idle guy like Austin Matthews must be like taking a tranquillizer an hour before the game.

Horton wasn't known for the playoffs because he never even made the playoffs with the Panthers, not because he was bad in the playoffs. Marner isn't bad in the playoffs, but his output drops significantly (from 1.1 PPG, to around .80 PPG). He also has disappeared in game 7s more than once.
 
That is exactly my thought process as well.

Two-way ability? You can find that via trade, free agency, etc.

What this team needs is more touch, speed and ability to drive play. Those are skill-sets typically found in the upper part of the draft and very challenging to acquire via trade or free agency.
Think there is a misconception with the "two way" label. They may have as much offensive upside as more one dimensional players but could also get shifted to roles down the line that fill in spots in the line up that see less offensive opportunities in their usage. To me it's about having a higher floor, not necessarily a lower ceiling - though it depends on the player.
 
If you asked me 3 months ago I would've said HELL NO. But, that was then, this is now. The Bruins are sorely lacking in his type of talent. IIRC Nathan Horton was accused of not having good playoffs but he became a huge part of the B's in their run to the Cup.
Furthermore, I'd rather have Marner here for the price then 2 31+ year old guys who simply want their payday and then spend the next few years barely earning their pay getting an occasional goal and a fight every month or two.
Playing with a low-idle guy like Austin Matthews must be like taking a tranquillizer an hour before the game. This team needs players who can fill certain roles and scoring goals is too dependent on Pasta. 200 foot players can be had in trade and later in the draft (after picking a C1 in round one).
I am with you, I was a "HELL NO guy also, but we need something here I just do not want to watch this for another season. You are right, on the price of two 31-year-old cost, with no production. I also think they need to do more, this is Donnie" chance to get creative and show some balls, he will have the cap room. Long shot I know, but like I said, Ballsy and creative, no harm in talking. I still not sure on Mittlestadt, but 1st line Geekie, Zacha, Pasta, second line Middlestatd, Marner, ______- help me fill it in. I seriously think they need a D-man, what do you think ? spend the money well Donnie and let's get back in the game
 
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That’s a really good point, we don’t exactly have someone for him to lookup to and keep him in check per se. More often than not, there’s a vet to help with that during Free Agency. I’ll believe Marchand is gone officially when the puck drops in October.

That said, when’s the next chance you have to acquire a 90+ point guy like that entering/in his prime? We already know what one of those players can do with middle 6 centers (Pasta) so if you can’t fix yourself down the middle, and you have an issue putting pucks in the net, you’re going to have a hard time convincing me we shouldn’t get him for reasons other than money. He immediately gives us a top of the league deadly line regardless who centers.
It really comes down to the possibility of Marner or waiting on the possibility of Eichel. I forgot about Eichel's age.
 
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It really comes down to the possibility of Marner or waiting on the possibility of Eichel. I forgot about Eichel's age.
Waiting to see if someone is available and freezing your roster for a year or more is a bad game to play. If someone is worth that much, then you go get them. He could easily resign or be traded, and I doubt we can put a good offer together for him vs everybody else. If we did, we’d be left some major holes, probably at wing. He also has an injury history and is close to 30. If he goes to FA, sure, check in on his asking price, and move the JAGs out to make it work. Also, the roster sans Pasta isn’t something I’d sign up with. Marner makes it more attractive.
 
Think there is a misconception with the "two way" label. They may have as much offensive upside as more one dimensional players but could also get shifted to roles down the line that fill in spots in the line up that see less offensive opportunities in their usage. To me it's about having a higher floor, not necessarily a lower ceiling - though it depends on the player.

That's a good point.

I'm not totally against Desnoyer per se. But depending on where they pick, and two guys are closely ranked, I'd rather the guy with the higher upside.
 
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