Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVII

[Bruin4]

He will not bring enough to outweigh his value here though is a good bet .I would keep Wotherspoon around I am the Bruins.I mean you can't trade everyone right .

I don't say he's untouchable, far from it, but I also don'tknow he has enough value to be worth moving- you still need to a roster after the TDL. What would you get for him? A 3rd rounder at most? He's better than 75% of players you could select in the third round outside of goalies. I guess it could be worth it

Basically exactly what @22Brad Park said above lol

Agreed but no one knows, who’s getting moved. I think Sweeney going to have nearly everyone on the table out side of the core guys available. Then it’s coming to an agreement, not saying that agreement will be reached with Wotherspoon but he’ll draw a lot of interest as will the others, at this point and time it comes down to two GMs agreeing on one’s worth.

 

[Dr Hook]

You can call me Mike

So long as I don't call you later for dinner? I go by Jeff in my non-HF Forum life

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I don't say he's untouchable, far from it, but I also don'tknow he has enough value to be worth moving- you still need a roster after the TDL. What would you get for him? A 3rd rounder at most? He's better than 75% of players you could select in the third round outside of goalies. I guess it could be worth it

Basically exactly what @22Brad Park said above lol

3rd round pick has less than a 14% chance of playing 100 games in the NHL.

 

[pucksindeep92]

No one I go to games with or been around hockey for years following Bruins has Poitras as 2C next year

People here are really saying this

Poitras has the potential to be 2c next year in theory because of the linemates he likely gets insulated with, and the lack of great centers on this roster. He no doubt has playmaking ability but needs another 2 years of seasoning in reality to get bigger and solidify into the player he will be for next 10 years.

 

[Dr Hook]

3rd round pick has less than a 14% chance of playing 100 games in the NHL.

Yep, I just said 75% to cover the years where the third round is a bit better, but you are 100% right. Wotherspoon is better than almost anyone you would get with a third most draft years, and I can't see a team giving more than that for him, and maybe not even that.

Poitras has the potential to be 2c next year in theory because of the linemates he likely gets insulated with, and the lack of great centers on this roster. He no doubt has playmaking ability but needs another 2 years of seasoning in reality to get bigger and solidify into the player he will be for next 10 years.

We aren't going to see the best of him shackled together with the Brazeaus and this years Trent Frederics of the world. Hopefully he isn't out long: @DominicT and @cnosek6342 on their pod mentioned that it would cool for the Bruins to roll out a line of Merk-Poitras-Lysell/Farinacci for the last bit of the season. Give us something to watch other than the Pasta show, and hopefully they show something for next season.

 

[pucksindeep92]

Centers at the Draft

If the season ended today Bruins would draft 12th, and the Ducks 7th. Ducks have two games in hand and are only 3 points back. This bodes well for chances at moving towards a better 1st round pick. That said, we can’t analyze in a vacuum. Many of the teams between us and them are likely to sell pieces, and potentially ones more impactful to their current play than our UFAs Sweeney said wouldn’t be tendered and therefore more likely to go before next week. If Sweeney doesn’t make any big sell moves like Marchand, Geekie, Carlo, we are probably going to move to the 9th/10th position while other teams “complete to tank” against us.

Ignoring the lottery aspect, you may get really lucky and see Frondell available, O’Brien more likely, and Carter Bear most likely at that position for center prospects. With larger names moving out like Marchand and Carlo and Geekie, maybe you can get down low enough to that 7 spot the Ducks currently have to see Desnoyers name still on the board. Jack Nesbitt seems to have a range for where he is ranked, and could be a great big body center available if we get another 1st round pick from trades. If not, Blake Fiddler could be there with a late first as a hulking right D.

 

[Gee Wally]

Sources: Sabres’ phones buzzing with interest in JJ Peterka, who joins Trade Targets board

Peterka, Mario Ferraro and Brad Marchand are among the new names in the top 45.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

 

[Hookslide]

I wouldn't mind him on the Bruins either but that's a pipe dream until at least 2026-27 when his ELC is up.

Why are you even discussing it like that no one ever said it was going to happen, but you assume that's what was meant.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Centers at the Draft

If the season ended today Bruins would draft 12th, and the Ducks 7th. Ducks have two games in hand and are only 3 points back. This bodes well for chances at moving towards a better 1st round pick. That said, we can’t analyze in a vacuum. Many of the teams between us and them are likely to sell pieces, and potentially ones more impactful to their current play than our UFAs Sweeney said wouldn’t be tendered and therefore more likely to go before next week. If Sweeney doesn’t make any big sell moves like Marchand, Geekie, Carlo, we are probably going to move to the 9th/10th position while other teams “complete to tank” against us.

Ignoring the lottery aspect, you may get really lucky and see Frondell available, O’Brien more likely, and Carter Bear most likely at that position for center prospects. With larger names moving out like Marchand and Carlo and Geekie, maybe you can get down low enough to that 7 spot the Ducks currently have to see Desnoyers name still on the board. Jack Nesbitt seems to have a range for where he is ranked, and could be a great big body center available if we get another 1st round pick from trades. If not, Blake Fiddler could be there with a late first as a hulking right D.

Carter Bear seems like the most bruins player possibly available to the B's. Dedicated 200 foot player

 

[Oates2Neely]

Beecher could be a cheap add for the Oilers, they are looking for a 4th line center with speed. If we could get even a mid round pick for him, that would be decent.

Why would a mid round pick (4th 5th 6th) be decent? What are you expecting to draft in the 5th round? If a 4th or 5th round pick is the best offer for Beecher I’d call his agent and look to re-sign him on a short term deal. How much could Beecher be looking for in a new contract? 1.25m?

Mid round picks suck. They’re total crapshoots. Don’t trade young players for mid round picks. You trade old washed up veterans for mid round picks.

 

[22Brad Park]

Carter Bear seems like the most bruins player possibly available to the B's. Dedicated 200 foot player

Hoping to fall low enough to get better.After trade deadline Bruins should completely collapse

 

[pucksindeep92]

We aren't going to see the best of him shackled together with the Brazeaus and this years Trent Frederics of the world. Hopefully he isn't out long: @DominicT and @cnosek6342 on their pod mentioned that it would cool for the Bruins to roll out a line of Merk-Poitras-Lysell/Farinacci for the last bit of the season. Give us something to watch other than the Pasta show, and hopefully they show something for next season.

I think we are saying the same thing, they insulated with big bodies around him this year like Frederic and Braz for hypothetical protection, because other teams pair their top talent, big D against our top 2 lines, giving Poitras a better matchup in most cases on the third line. I think in a softer Euro league, he’d be killing it because he has skill and his body size might not be as much of a worry. We saw that in Providence too as his point streak was undeniable. His future career is a great 2c, or solid 1B it seems.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Please tell me why Seattle is trading Shane Wright?

Maybe they feel they’re better with Gourde as their 3rd line checking center? Maybe they consider dangling Wright to fill a need at left D (Lohrei?). Beniers is certainly their 1C. They’re paying Chandler Stephenson 6.25m per for another 6 years and he seems to be producing well. Their strength is at center.

I’m not suggesting they’re at all open to moving him but to suggest it’s asinine is debatable.

 

[Hookslide]

I think we are saying the same thing, they insulated with big bodies around him this year like Frederic and Braz for hypothetical protection, because other teams pair their top talent, big D against our top 2 lines, giving Poitras a better matchup in most cases on the third line. I think in a softer Euro league, he’d be killing it because he has skill and his body size might not be as much of a worry. We saw that in Providence too as his point streak was undeniable. His future career is a great 2c, or solid 1B it seems.

The problem with Poitras, is he was rushed before he was ready. Was not fair to the kid, should have let ferment back at Junior and the some AHL time. But everyone was screaming for this kid, and in my opinion, it has hurt this kid and now he is a hard read.

 

[BamBamCam]

Maybe they feel they’re better with Gourde as their 3rd line checking center? Maybe they consider dangling Wright to fill a need at left D (Lohrei?). Beniers is certainly their 1C. They’re paying Chandler Stephenson 6.25m per for another 6 years and he seems to be producing well. Their strength is at center.

I’m not suggesting they’re at all open to moving him but to suggest it’s asinine is debatable.

When your paying a talent like Shane Wright 886K/year for the next 3 years it is, but I was told by the poster he didn't even mention Shane Wright so this is the last I'll post on the subject.

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[Bruin4]

 

[RedSlider]

Sources: Sabres’ phones buzzing with interest in JJ Peterka, who joins Trade Targets board

Peterka, Mario Ferraro and Brad Marchand are among the new names in the top 45.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

Highly unlikely the Bruins have the pieces to do it but I would give up a pretty penny to get Peterka.

 

[Number8]

Centers at the Draft

If the season ended today Bruins would draft 12th, and the Ducks 7th. Ducks have two games in hand and are only 3 points back. This bodes well for chances at moving towards a better 1st round pick. That said, we can’t analyze in a vacuum. Many of the teams between us and them are likely to sell pieces, and potentially ones more impactful to their current play than our UFAs Sweeney said wouldn’t be tendered and therefore more likely to go before next week. If Sweeney doesn’t make any big sell moves like Marchand, Geekie, Carlo, we are probably going to move to the 9th/10th position while other teams “complete to tank” against us.

Ignoring the lottery aspect, you may get really lucky and see Frondell available, O’Brien more likely, and Carter Bear most likely at that position for center prospects. With larger names moving out like Marchand and Carlo and Geekie, maybe you can get down low enough to that 7 spot the Ducks currently have to see Desnoyers name still on the board. Jack Nesbitt seems to have a range for where he is ranked, and could be a great big body center available if we get another 1st round pick from trades. If not, Blake Fiddler could be there with a late first as a hulking right D.

I think if the Bruins have a chance to get a decent Center in the draft as you lay out, I think you talk to Marchy and say -- look we're going to target a Center in the draft and get some offensive help up front via trade or UFA. Go play three months and try to get another Cup, then come back home in July.

 

[yazmybaby]

Centers at the Draft

If the season ended today Bruins would draft 12th, and the Ducks 7th. Ducks have two games in hand and are only 3 points back. This bodes well for chances at moving towards a better 1st round pick. That said, we can’t analyze in a vacuum. Many of the teams between us and them are likely to sell pieces, and potentially ones more impactful to their current play than our UFAs Sweeney said wouldn’t be tendered and therefore more likely to go before next week. If Sweeney doesn’t make any big sell moves like Marchand, Geekie, Carlo, we are probably going to move to the 9th/10th position while other teams “complete to tank” against us.

Ignoring the lottery aspect, you may get really lucky and see Frondell available, O’Brien more likely, and Carter Bear most likely at that position for center prospects. With larger names moving out like Marchand and Carlo and Geekie, maybe you can get down low enough to that 7 spot the Ducks currently have to see Desnoyers name still on the board. Jack Nesbitt seems to have a range for where he is ranked, and could be a great big body center available if we get another 1st round pick from trades. If not, Blake Fiddler could be there with a late first as a hulking right D.

We need one of the top 5 centers in this draft which is deep.
O'Brien does not make my list of the top 5.
Would be great to fall into #10 for the lottery, then we have a better chance of getting 1 or 2.
Picks 12-16 can only move up 10 spots.

 

[BlackFrancis]

"Get that stupid boot off. This is selling country."

 

[Bruin4]

"Get that stupid boot off. This is selling country."

I'm thinking maybe Sweeney sold his soul, Poitras escapes injury, now the boot comes off Frederic. eP40, Byfield, Rantanen or Number one center on their way to Boston?

 

[Absurdity]

 

[yazmybaby]

Bring back my cousin Vinny.

 

[pucksindeep92]

I think if the Bruins have a chance to get a decent Center in the draft as you lay out, I think you talk to Marchy and say -- look we're going to target a Center in the draft and get some offensive help up front via trade or UFA. Go play three months and try to get another Cup, then come back home in July.

Thats what I’ve been preaching. I really can’t see why, in private, Marchand wouldn’t also see this route. His chance at having a more meaningful end to his tenure in Boston is almost entirely hinged on him taking a lap in Edmonton, LA, Colorado etc. for the rest of this season.

If it were me and I wanted to help the team I say I want to be a part of for another couple years, I’d do it in a heartbeat. If Sweeney said hey we can get Byfield or Savoie in a package , or even some top 6 winger if you go, it just makes too much sense.