Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVI

[BruinsJoe]

We all know Bruins will retool and they need a big one, and imo it will take at least 2 off season to build something competitive, they have only 24mil in cap space this summer to fill a lot of holes in this forward group and it s brutal...

Big big job is coming for Sweeny, get picks, rebuild prospect pool, retool nhl squad, build a new coaching staff...woooouuuuffff!!!!

xxxxx xxxxxx Pasta
Zacha xxxxxx xxxxxx
Lindholm Colye xxxxxx
xxxxxx Kastelic xxxxxx

Lindholm Mcavoy
Zadorov Carlo
xxxxxx Peeke

Swayman
Korpisalo

 

[Bruin4]

How much did Carlo play if I may ask?

19:42 about 30 seconds less than peeke

 

[JoeIsAStud]

We all know Bruins will retool and they need a big one, and imo it will take at least 2 off season to build something competitive, they have only 24mil in cap space this summer to fill a lot of holes in this forward group and it s brutal...

Big big job is coming for Sweeny, get picks, rebuild prospect pool, retool nhl squad, build a new coaching staff...woooouuuuffff!!!!

xxxxx xxxxxx Pasta
Zacha xxxxxx xxxxxx
Lindholm Colye xxxxxx
xxxxxx Kastelic xxxxxx

Lindholm Mcavoy
Zadorov Carlo
xxxxxx Peeke

Swayman
Korpisalo

'
All those people go and somehow Coyle remains

 

[Kegs]

Lindholm starting to turn it around. Maybe we should wait before to write him off completely. Its only 1st year of his 8 year contract.

I think his shot has more snap these days. I think his wrist injury lingered.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Get that savoie kid from Edmonton give them trent.

They got Savoie by trading away a fast, big, 3rd/4th line F who has 2x as many points as Frederic this year.

They aren't trading Savoie back for a lesser version of what they traded away.

 

[PlayMakers]

How much did Carlo play if I may ask?

19:42 and 18:17

 

[easton117]

Won't happen.

Frederic won't get you a 1st
Geekie won't get you a 1st
Carlo may be borderline
Marchand would fetch a 1st

Also, weren't you buying yesterday? Dude. Reel it in a bit, lol.

I am operating under the assumption Don’s account is really being run by my wife considering how often it changes its mind. Minds.

And yes. Out of that list Marchand is the only one that’s going to get you a 1st.

 

[KastelicKrew47]

I know both teams are pretty much out of it. Sweeney was talking to Nashville earlier in the season. I wonder if the bruins could send brazeau and carlo out for Reid Schaefer and Tampa 1st.

 

[Bruin4]

I am operating under the assumption Don’s account is really being run by my wife considering how often it changes its mind. Minds.

And yes. Out of that list Marchand is the only one that’s going to get you a 1st.

I think Geekie easily gets you a first and Carlo possibly TFred as well.

 

[Coach Parker]

There was a time when there was talk about him being and recently also, and I was all in a younger 100-point player, all signed, that interested me greatly, but now I read that he can be a bit lazy, which brings in the JT Miller, rants, and at time's disinterested, so no I must admit I am a little hesitant, should I be ?

I am hesitant but for the Canucks, not the team acquiring him and letting him focus on 2025-2026. If they keep him, I think this remains the situation but if they move him, they get to see him flourish in a new city after getting a poor return for him.

Maybe you move him for Rantanen as is and Canucks try and sign him instead while the Hurricanes get Pettersson lined up for the next 7 years?

Pettersson seems to hate it here. Doesn't interact with the coaches or even the Sedin's, who are loved here.

This could be the Bruins Bennett, Monahan, Dubois, etc. Problem is, I don't think the Bruins have much of anything that anyone likes for sale.

For all the heat the Canucks management has gotten, I really respect how they turn assets into pieces they need.

When they move a guy, they almost immediately flip those assets to a team that wants the pieces they acquired for what the Canucks actually need. Look at the Miller trade, the Horvat trade, etc. They move the player out for picks, then move the picks for what they wanted from another team, and then sign that player (Hronek, Pettersson, O'Connor).

The Bruins don't have what the Canucks necessarily want BUT if they can move Coyle, Frederic, Carlo, Geekie and others for picks/prospects that the Canucks DO want then I could see a trade.

Carlo for a 1st? Sure.
Frederic for a 2nd and prospect? Sure.
Coyle for a 3rd? Sure.
Geekie for a 2nd? Sure.

A 1st, two 2nd's and a third for Pettersson?

I always like when a GM has a trade in place and already has the assets put to where the team needs it most and the Canucks have been doing that for a couple years now.

 

[Coach Parker]

Hey guys sorry for the bother just curious what are some fans thoughts on carlo??is he on the block? Could have sworn I heard his name before

What would expected returns for carlo or frederic at this point if they were to be moved

I honestly think Carlo gets a late 1st and Frederic gets a 2nd but that is in a sellers' market right now with so many teams still in.

 

[easton117]

I think Geekie easily gets you a first and Carlo possibly TFred as well.

You know what? I missed Geekie in there.

You might be right. He’s the only one I would not trade though.


They need more Geekie’s that show up nightly. Not less

 

[Coach Parker]

Thx for the reply! I was more interested in carlo cause our d needs help , didnt like hearing that he panics and gives way the puck.

Guessing it's just thing from him and I'm sure he can go back

Perfect 2nd pairing RHD in Detroit. Good reach and play disruption. Reads the game well. Good in front. Typical 2nd pairing RHD that does better with a Puck-moving LHD.

 

[JCRO]

I am hesitant but for the Canucks, not the team acquiring him and letting him focus on 2025-2026. If they keep him, I think this remains the situation but if they move him, they get to see him flourish in a new city after getting a poor return for him.

Maybe you move him for Rantanen as is and Canucks try and sign him instead while the Hurricanes get Pettersson lined up for the next 7 years?

Pettersson seems to hate it here. Doesn't interact with the coaches or even the Sedin's, who are loved here.

This could be the Bruins Bennett, Monahan, Dubois, etc. Problem is, I don't think the Bruins have much of anything that anyone likes for sale.

For all the heat the Canucks management has gotten, I really respect how they turn assets into pieces they need.

When they move a guy, they almost immediately flip those assets to a team that wants the pieces they acquired for what the Canucks actually need. Look at the Miller trade, the Horvat trade, etc. They move the player out for picks, then move the picks for what they wanted from another team, and then sign that player (Hronek, Pettersson, O'Connor).

The Bruins don't have what the Canucks necessarily want BUT if they can move Coyle, Frederic, Carlo, Geekie and others for picks/prospects that the Canucks DO want then I could see a trade.

Carlo for a 1st? Sure.
Frederic for a 2nd and prospect? Sure.
Coyle for a 3rd? Sure.
Geekie for a 2nd? Sure.

A 1st, two 2nd's and a third for Pettersson?

I always like when a GM has a trade in place and already has the assets put to where the team needs it most and the Canucks have been doing that for a couple years now.

Oh you for sure still trade for EP40 if hes still available.

Legit #1C, only 26*, has shown he can put up points and is locked in at 11.6 per for the next 7 with a rising cap.

 

[Coach Parker]

Oh you for sure still trade for EP40 if hes still available.

Legit #1C, has shown he can put up points and is locked in at 11.6 per for the next 7 with a rising cap.

And then tell Pastrnak 'we got you your 1st line C partner for the next 7 years. Start playing with him and developing chemistry for the rest of the year as this season doesn't matter.'

Then tell Pettersson, 'Find Pastrnak. Spend all this season learning how to play with him. You are the Oates to his Hull. Recover back to 100% and spend the off-season training here in Boston and enjoying the culture and team atmosphere. Come to camp in 2025 on a mission to finish top ten in scoring and pushing Pasta for the team scoring leader.'

 

[elMatador]

McAvoy, Swayman, DeBrusk, Carlo, Taylor Hall, Orlov…

McAvoy could be a top-end talent, however in his last 3 playoffs he didn't show up at that level.
Swayman has not proved himself as a starter yet, one series won over Leafs does not cut it.
DeBrusk is a midrange winger who can elevate his play in the playoffs, good but not great.
Carlo was never a top-end talent.
Hall was already on the decline and far from his best when he got traded to the Bruins.
Orlov was just rental, there was no cap room to keep him.

 

[BamBamCam]

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[easton117]

And then tell Pastrnak 'we got you your 1st line C partner for the next 7 years. Start playing with him and developing chemistry for the rest of the year as this season doesn't matter.'

Then tell Pettersson, 'Find Pastrnak. Spend all this season learning how to play with him. You are the Oates to his Hull. Recover back to 100% and spend the off-season training here in Boston and enjoying the culture and team atmosphere. Come to camp in 2025 on a mission to finish top ten in scoring and pushing Pasta for the team scoring leader.'

Forget who it was, but one of the TSN guys were saying part of Pettersson’s issues stems from injuries, lost a lot of his shiftiness.

As a smaller guy that doesn’t bode well long term.

Personally I’d rather they take that money, add a million and take an honest run at Rantanen.

Then pray Lindholm recovers enough to be serviceable between him and Pastrnak.

Figure out the rest of the depth chart from there.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

19:42 about 30 seconds less than peeke

Thank you

19:42 and 18:17

Thank you

 

[pucksindeep92]

If were selling I'd trade all 4 Frederic marchy carlo and geekie for a 1st round pick each. Imagine having 5 first round picks in total in this years draft.

zboril x5 whoopee.


Okay all jokes aside I’ve been thinking about this, and even if we get two firsts which is likely if they sell 2 of Marchand/geeks/Carlo, you gotta believe Don is quietly foaming at the mouth for a second chance at that possibility a decade later.

 

[CellyHard]

Personally I’d rather they take that money, add a million and take an honest run at Rantanen.

Then pray Lindholm recovers enough to be serviceable between him and Pastrnak.

Figure out the rest of the depth chart from there.

Honestly this makes the most sense. It might be a little odd loading up big money on two wingers in Pasta and Rantanen but we are talking about one of the most dynamic players in the league. Rantanen is an absolute game changer. I would just separate them two to create a 1a and 1b type of top six.

Geekie Zacha Pastrnak
Marchand Lindholm Rantanen

It's not unrealistic if they sell off Frederic, Coyle, Carlo, Korpisalo, etc.

That top six with Poitras, Lysell and Merkulov battling for spots and a ton of draft picks starts getting a lot more interesting

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

With a little extra time on my hands, I've been working on a small project with eyes toward the future...

I know players' ages and salaries from Cup-winning rosters have been debated, so I decided to look at the ten most recent Cup-winning teams and see how the top of their rosters were constructed.

I focused on the top scorers in the playoffs at forward, top minute-eating defensemen, and lastly at the goaltenders. Admittedly, I struggled trying to figure out the best way to post the data while making it easily-digestible, but here's what I found:


Average age of the top-scoring forwards (20 or more points in the playoffs)
27.6 yrs (range from 22 to 32)

Average top-scoring forwards AAV cap%
9.31% (range from 1.27% to 13.01%)


Average age of the minutes-eating defensemen (22 minutes or more ATOI in the playoffs)
29.2 yrs (range from 22 to 35)

Average minutes-eating defensemen AAV cap%
7.17% (range from 2.15% to 11.04%)


Average age of the Cup-winning goalies
28.6 yrs (range from 22 to 35)

Average Cup-winning goalie AAV cap%
7.03% (range from 0.82% to 11.98%)


So, using the above as the winning template for the 2025-26 season...

• Top two or three highest scoring forwards should ideally be an average of ~28 yrs old and earn an average of ~$8.9M AAV each.
• Top two minute-eating defensemen should ideally be an average of ~29 yrs old and earn an average of ~$6.85M each.
• Goaltender should ideally be ~29 yrs old and earn ~6.7M.

And the same as above looking to the 2026-27 and 2027-28 seasons:
Forwards = 9.68M / 10.57M
Defensemen = 7.46M / 8.14M
Goalie = 7.31M / 7.98M


Anyway, barring any high-end additions to the current forward corps, the Bruins (limited?) Cup window will likely shut by no later than 2028. That's the season in which David Pastrnak will reach 32 years of age.

 

[PB37]

The play to make IMO is still Boeser for the 2nd line. I think Lysell would have to be on the table as well as other assets.

I like the idea of the Frederic/Coyle package to Utah for Matias Maccelli and picks.

I think that balances the lineup a bit with a little more skill and more goal scoring ability.

Geekie -- Zacha -- Pasta

Maccelli -- Lindholm -- Boeser

Marchand -- Poitras -- Brazeau

Beecher -- Kastelic -- Kopeke


The defense, I'm not sure what to do there. With so much money tied into Zadorov, McAvoy, and Lindholm and 2 of them being injured for the forseeable future, I can't see a world where they trade Carlo or Peeke without someone else coming back that can play heavy minutes on the right side. I think it's going to be a " by commitee " approach and hope McAvoy comes back with enough games left to still have a shot of making the playoffs.

 

[bme44]

I honestly think Carlo gets a late 1st and Frederic gets a 2nd but that is in a sellers' market right now with so many teams still in.

I do not think trading Carlo for anything less than a first would be very smart . In fact trading Carlo period may be a bad decision at present. I think you keep him for another year and see how he plays next season.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

With a little extra time on my hands, I've been working on a small project with eyes toward the future...

I know players' ages and salaries from Cup-winning rosters have been debated, so I decided to look at the ten most recent Cup-winning teams and see how the top of their rosters were constructed.

I focused on the top scorers in the playoffs at forward, top minute-eating defensemen, and lastly at the goaltenders. Admittedly, I struggled trying to figure out the best way to post the data while making it easily-digestible, but here's what I found:


Average age of the top-scoring forwards (20 or more points in the playoffs)
27.6 yrs (range from 22 to 32)

Average top-scoring forwards AAV cap%
9.31% (range from 1.27% to 13.01%)


Average age of the minutes-eating defensemen (22 minutes or more ATOI in the playoffs)
29.2 yrs (range from 22 to 35)

Average minutes-eating defensemen AAV cap%
7.17% (range from 2.15% to 11.04%)


Average age of the Cup-winning goalies
28.6 yrs (range from 22 to 35)

Average Cup-winning goalie AAV cap%
7.03% (range from 0.82% to 11.98%)


So, using the above as the winning template for the 2025-26 season...

• Top two or three highest scoring forwards should ideally be an average of ~28 yrs old and earn an average of ~$8.9M AAV each.
• Top two minute-eating defensemen should ideally be an average of ~29 yrs old and earn an average of ~$6.85M each.
• Goaltender should ideally be ~29 yrs old and earn ~6.7M.

And the same as above looking to the 2026-27 and 2027-28 seasons:
Forwards = 9.68M / 10.57M
Defensemen = 7.46M / 8.14M
Goalie = 7.31M / 7.98M


Anyway, barring any high-end additions to the current forward corps, the Bruins (limited?) Cup window will likely shut by no later than 2028. That's the season in which David Pastrnak will reach 32 years of age.

Amazing work, thank you