Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XVI

[Bruin4]

Oilers are in a funk and need some toughness. They have been tied to Frederic. How about getting savoie from them? Are they dumb enough?

They just brought him up

 

[BadBruins]

I’m a Utah fan - wondering what you all think about this trade concept.

**To BOS:**
Maccelli
Carcone
‘26 NYR 2nd
‘26 CAR 3rd

**To UTA:**
Frederic
Coyle

Maccelli hasn’t had a good season. He was really good the last couple of seasons. Rookies like Guenther, Cooley, etc are eating up the choice minutes now. I think his deployment has hurt him. With more opportunities and better linemates, he could be a player. He put up all those points with Crouse, and Bjugstad as primary linemates the last couple of seasons. Crouse and Bjugstad have also struggled this season. Hard to say exactly what’s gone wrong with this trio in Utah.

Carcone is small, tough as nails, and can get red hot with goal scoring every once in a while. Mostly cold, sometimes very hot hand. He’s not big but he’s got a big punch and doesn’t take crap. He’s a 4th liner. Cheap.

Honestly, I think that's a pretty fair value exchange. From my POV anyway. I wouldn't have anything negative to say if something like that went down.

 

[CellyHard]

Honestly, I think that's a pretty fair value exchange. From my POV anyway. I wouldn't have anything negative to say if something like that went down.

I don't really think so

Sub in McBain for Carcone and I would consider

Bruins would be better off moving them in separate deals and retaining on Coyle to maximize the return

 

[SPV]

I’m a Utah fan - wondering what you all think about this trade concept.

**To BOS:**
Maccelli
Carcone
‘26 NYR 2nd
‘26 CAR 3rd

**To UTA:**
Frederic
Coyle

Maccelli hasn’t had a good season. He was really good the last couple of seasons. Rookies like Guenther, Cooley, etc are eating up the choice minutes now. I think his deployment has hurt him. With more opportunities and better linemates, he could be a player. He put up all those points with Crouse, and Bjugstad as primary linemates the last couple of seasons. Crouse and Bjugstad have also struggled this season. Hard to say exactly what’s gone wrong with this trio in Utah.

Carcone is small, tough as nails, and can get red hot with goal scoring every once in a while. Mostly cold, sometimes very hot hand. He’s not big but he’s got a big punch and doesn’t take crap. He’s a 4th liner. Cheap.

If we could swap Maccelli for Crouse I’m in.

 

[norwoodmustang]

Reminder: the last contract Sweeney "took on" was Korpisalo's.

Buyer beware.

I think the idea would be to take expiring contracts from contenders for picks and prospects, allowing the contenders to add big salary players for their cup runs.

 

[22Brad Park]

Shut down everyone with the slightest nagging injury, bring up the youth/hitters/fighters, trade expiring contracts, bank deadline cap space and take on bad contracts attached to high draft pics and/or good prospects, and deal with the cap overages in the offseason ...if you're going to tank then tank big

Lets see if we can get Lee Stempmiak for a 2nd & 4th .Or Zac Rinaldo for a 3rd Seriously though,the Bruins will not give up till deadline day is a good bet.

 

[BadBruins]

I don't really think so

Sub in McBain for Carcone and I would consider

Bruins would be better off moving them in separate deals and retaining on Coyle to maximize the return

Carcone is the most minor of pieces. I assume he's just a contract number/salary swap. UFA to be.

Maccelli for Coyle (with no retention). That's fair to me. Bruins get the younger player (24), who actually has scored at a better rate than Coyle over the past few years. Free flyer with some salary implications. Utah gets the Veteran #2/3C with a somewhat inflated contract. Best player in the deal, but he's got a year left and that's not going to be easy to move IMO.

2nd, 3rd and Carcone for Frederic. Hate to break it to people, but you aren't getting a 1st or top prospect for UFA Frederic. Maybe at this time last year. Not today however.

I just doubt you get any better than that if selling individually.

 

[BlackFrancis]

I think the idea would be to take expiring contracts from contenders for picks and prospects, allowing the contenders to add big salary players for their cup runs.

Consider what teams get for eating half an expiring deal, being the double retainer in a trade. They get a 4th, 5th or whatever for eating the prorated remainder of $1m - $2m.

If you are just eating the whole shebang, what's the expectation? A 3rd?

You don't see deals like that (just getting picks for an expiring deal with nothing else going on and no one else involved) all that often, so it's not like you'll even benefit from volume trades like that at the deadline.

The problem is the remaining cash on an expiring deal isn't all that much at the deadline, so the value is the same.

Nice to hope, but best to keep the expectations in check.

 

[remer]

I think it was a good Press conference. Sweeney is a respected GM even though many people may not like him. He’s made some good moves by bringing in Zacha, Geekie, Peeke, Brazeau, Kastelic, drafting Potrais, Lohrie, Beecher and perhaps we will see Merkalov and Lysell. Maybe DePetro.
A time for a re-tool is now. They are not making the playoffs and if they did, they one and done. The strategy appears to move out the UFA‘s, decide on the restricted free agents and perhaps move out some veterans. ( Coyle, Carlo, Korpisalo ) and perhaps have a hard conversation for Brad to have a run with another team at a Cup. He can always resign in the summer. With the LTIR take expiring contracts from contenders for picks and prospects. Get in the driver seat for this years draft and next year as well open up some cap space for UFA summer.
Smart strategy and it’s about time. Let’s see on the results of what he can do. Donny needs an A trade deadline and he needs an A on UFA season. He also needs a new coaching staff. He has a lot of work ahead of him and let’s see an experienced GM can do. So, get behind him because he is not going anywhere. Go Bruins.

 

[The don godfather]

I think it was a good Press conference. Sweeney is a respected GM even though many people may not like him. He’s made some good moves by bringing in Zacha, Geekie, Peeke, Brazeau, Kastelic, drafting Potrais, Lohrie, Beecher and perhaps we will see Merkalov and Lysell. Maybe DePetro.
A time for a re-tool is now. They are not making the playoffs and if they did, they one and done. The strategy appears to move out the UFA‘s, decide on the restricted free agents and perhaps move out some veterans. ( Coyle, Carlo, Korpisalo ) and perhaps have a hard conversation for Brad to have a run with another team at a Cup. He can always resign in the summer. With the LTIR take expiring contracts from contenders for picks and prospects. Get in the driver seat for this years draft and next year as well open up some cap space for UFA summer.
Smart strategy and it’s about time. Let’s see on the results of what he can do. Donny needs an A trade deadline and he needs an A on UFA season. He also needs a new coaching staff. He has a lot of work ahead of him and let’s see an experienced GM can do. So, get behind him because he is not going anywhere. Go Bruins.

Agreed let's go Donny and do your magic. More haula for zacha type moves please.

 

[Gordoff]

Refurbished ? I am waiting till I see what Sweenious does first .He might just move the deck chairs on the titanic type thing

If I said "rebuild" it's not going to happen.
If I said "retool" it isn't enough.
I liked Refurbished. It feels to be somewhere between
rebuild and retool.

 

[pucksindeep92]

Looking at suitors and their chips, we’ve got the pieces to take Savoie and STLs original 2nd round pick from Edmonton, but it might cost taking Arvidsson in any deal.

Down year this year from injury, older than I’d like by a good bit, and costs 4mil next year, so not great but could be worth what you’re adding and has a recent history of scoring. Heck, might even be possible to retain 1mil and flip him somewhere if we staple someone to him. If 3+ of Frederic, Geekie, Coyle, Brazzers aren’t on the team next year, keeping him has bottom 6 merit imo.

 

[elMatador]

I think it was a good Press conference. Sweeney is a respected GM even though many people may not like him. He’s made some good moves by bringing in Zacha, Geekie, Peeke, Brazeau, Kastelic, drafting Potrais, Lohrie, Beecher and perhaps we will see Merkalov and Lysell. Maybe DePetro.

None of these guys are a top end talent or prospects.

The only top end talend Sweeney brought in by signing/trading/drafting was Ullmark, Hampus Lindholm and playoff Bertuzzi as rental.
Still, Ullmark couldn't perform in the playoffs and Lindholm has been healthy only for half season so far.

However Sweeney's record of trading/signing over the hill junk or picks wasted to dump junk or picks wasted on busts is quite long.

 

[GordonHowe]

After years of win-now moves, Don Sweeney and the Bruins seem ready to wave white flag

After years of win-now moves, it looks as though the bill is about to come due for Don Sweeney and the Bruisn this season.

www.boston.com

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

It’s obvious that we will have a huge roster turnover by October. To be honest, I wouldn’t mind a 100% roster turnover. I know it’s not going to happen, but looking at our current roster, I don’t see many must-have keepers. The product is incredibly boring and nearly void of any type of excitement. When was the last memorable game?
I keep Zad because he’s the only intimidating player on the roster. I keep Kastelic even though he’s hasn’t done anything for three months. Sadly, everyone else is a trade chip, including Pasta and Swayman. I would try hard to dump all the huge salaries.
I don’t want Sweeney doing a rebuild. I’m not sure who’s out there to take over, but it seems like anyone would be an improvement over the current clown show. A fish rots from the head.

 

[Oates2Neely]

It’d be great if some here could insert a disclaimer as a header in their posts “I’m proposing trading Pastrnak & Swayman”so I know to skip over the post

 

[DKH]

Not to mention a miraculous one.

Who we talking ?

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Any suggestions that I vilve trading Pasterbak are moronic.

The 4 Nations showed how important elite stars are. We have a top 5 guy.

Also reminded us McAvoy is capable of winning a Norris.

There are worse goalie contracts than Swayman. I do move Korpisalo if possible.

Rest of the team noone is safe.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Marchand isn’t voluntarily leaving imo. His wife’s family is a quick 45 min drive to Bristol RI. The question is would he consider a 2 month party with a contender? Carolina could use a 2nd line LW, would slot old pal Hall onto line 3

 

[Bruin4]

None of these guys are a top end talent or prospects.

The only top end talend Sweeney brought in by signing/trading/drafting was Ullmark, Hampus Lindholm and playoff Bertuzzi as rental.
Still, Ullmark couldn't perform in the playoffs and Lindholm has been healthy only for half season so far.

However Sweeney's record of trading/signing over the hill junk or picks wasted to dump junk or picks wasted on busts is quite long.

This current roster is a reflection of just that. Sweeney in his tenure has compiled a bunch of 3-4th liners to play along Pasta and the soon to be 37 year old Marchand. Outside of those two, there’s no threat even on an odd man rush? Geekie been great since Sacco took over and put him with Pasta and I feel he’ll be a 20 goal scorer moving forward but dam In10 years of constructing the Bruins he hasn’t gotten at least one elite forward.

Debrusk in the controversial 2015 draft is by far and away the top forward he’s added and he let him walk and replaced him with lindholm.

He’s tried with the likes of Nash, Hayes,Backes, Belesky, and now Lindholm but so far they’ve all been big whiffs for one reason or another.

While other teams have added top forwards through trades, the most significant ones Sweeney has added has been at the deadline giving up prospects and picks while trying to win, love him for that, but it didn’t bring a Cup and those guys are long gone,along with his cupboard full of prospects and with the loss of them, has helped handcuffed him in being able to make an impactful trade for a an elite forward.

I don’t see him going anywhere, So hopefully he can fix this roster in short term, but given his past decision making and asset management for the future growth of this team in constructing this roster, I have very little faith in him. Hope I’m wrong and he can make some impactful transactions moving forward.

I actually don’t see any big deadline moves by him. TFred being his biggest move. draft week/day I can see him moving aCarlo or Coyle , he did great back in 2015 loading up with picks for arguably one of the greatest draft in years, hopefully he can simulate that in some sort of way whether it’s for prospects or picks in 2026, but this time around he adds the right players.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Any suggestions that I vilve trading Pasterbak are moronic.

The 4 Nations showed how important elite stars are. We have a top 5 guy.

Also reminded us McAvoy is capable of winning a Norris.

There are worse goalie contracts than Swayman. I do move Korpisalo if possible.

Rest of the team noone is safe.

Pretty sure everyone knew that already.

Who we talking ?

Bruins making the playoffs without McAvoy & H. Lindholm.

 

[Ratty]

Any thoughts on claiming Juuso Valimaki from Utah? With H. Lindholm on the shelf for the rest of the season might as well take a flyer on Val, a first round pick with experience, still young and carries an affordable contract (2m). Doesn’t work out you waive him.

 

[PlayMakers]

The only top end talend Sweeney brought in by signing/trading/drafting was Ullmark, Hampus Lindholm and playoff Bertuzzi as rental.

McAvoy, Swayman, DeBrusk, Carlo, Taylor Hall, Orlov…

 

[22Brad Park]

I think it was a good Press conference. Sweeney is a respected GM even though many people may not like him. He’s made some good moves by bringing in Zacha, Geekie, Peeke, Brazeau, Kastelic, drafting Potrais, Lohrie, Beecher and perhaps we will see Merkalov and Lysell. Maybe DePetro.
A time for a re-tool is now. They are not making the playoffs and if they did, they one and done. The strategy appears to move out the UFA‘s, decide on the restricted free agents and perhaps move out some veterans. ( Coyle, Carlo, Korpisalo ) and perhaps have a hard conversation for Brad to have a run with another team at a Cup. He can always resign in the summer. With the LTIR take expiring contracts from contenders for picks and prospects. Get in the driver seat for this years draft and next year as well open up some cap space for UFA summer.
Smart strategy and it’s about time. Let’s see on the results of what he can do. Donny needs an A trade deadline and he needs an A on UFA season. He also needs a new coaching staff. He has a lot of work ahead of him and let’s see an experienced GM can do. So, get behind him because he is not going anywhere. Go Bruins.

Sweeney brings in bottom.6 plugs steady Show me the high end talent he added? Yup ,that's right ,nothing.I will bet it's more of the same type players that you hope can get you production,not proven production.You are right about one thing though for sure ,he needs an A off season and solid draft.They have no 2nd so they should try to aquire that at deadline for sure .Get a 1st and shock me by not reaching .This deadline & off season is the biggest moment in his GM career and don't think 2015 talk won't be mentioned by panels either.Pressure time for him.

 

[Bruin4]

McAvoy, Swayman, DeBrusk, Carlo, Taylor Hall, Orlov…

Ironically 2 of those players Carlo and Jake came out of the 2015 draft . Hall wanted to be a Bruin and forced Buffalo's hand on an expiring contract, it was Boston or no-where. Orlov where is he now? McAvoy was a Great pick when most wanted Fabbro, as was Swayman. Not much there in 10 years though. I just fear what this team will look like in 4-5 years down the road with Sweeney leading the way, these next couple of years decisions will go a long way on determining just that. I hope I'm wrong, because I don't see him going anywhere and Imho the future will be very bleak with him at the helm.