Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIV

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Zegras and Helleson for…

Something, something and I’m not sure

 

[bruinsfan]

It seems Sweeney keeps going back to the same trade partners, almost as if he can't seem to strike a deal anywhere else. I get it, it's hard to trade when you have nothing much to offer.

Maybe I am wrong and he's dealt with more than a handful of teams but id sure love to see a breakdown of the team's he's dealt with and how many times over the years, as I feel like Anaheim is always a team he deals with.

All that being said I wish he'd come out of his comfort zone and look for other deals, that other teams seem to be making rather than going back to the same well.

 

[DominicT]

It seems Sweeney keeps going back to the same trade partners, almost as if he can't seem to strike a deal anywhere else. I get it, it's hard to trade when you have nothing much to offer.

Maybe I am wrong and he's dealt with more than a handful of teams but id sure love to see a breakdown of the team's he's dealt with and how many times over the years, as I feel like Anaheim is always a team he deals with.

All that being said I wish he'd come out of his comfort zone and look for other deals, that other teams seem to be making rather than going back to the same well.

He has traded with Ottawa more than the Ducks

History of hockey trades by general manager Don Sweeney - NHL Trade Tracker

 

[Dr Hook]

He has traded with Ottawa more than the Ducks

History of hockey trades by general manager Don Sweeney - NHL Trade Tracker

I don't see how that can be possible, since we've been told many times that teams don't trade within their division.

 

[pucksindeep92]

If they lose today I’m thinking Sweeney at minimum makes a public appearance.

Get some youth in the system, in the age 25ish range who’ve maybe fallen out of favor with their team.

Marchand rental, then returns July 1st would be great. He lands a 1st ++

Kinda already tried that route this season with jones, tufte, wahlstrom…these first rounders that fall out of favor are typically out for a reason.

If we are re-tooling, and we have plenty of trade fodder in Marchand, Frederic, Coyle, Peeke, and potentially Carlo/Zacha for a Star, then trading for picks and going ahead with using them in a bad draft class doesn’t make much sense. We don’t need 5 Zach Senyshns in return. We also don’t need to trade these guys for more middle 6ers like Geekie (who we still need!) that are touted because they are versatile or “big”. We need speciality talents. Use those players or picks they get for someone that is a bonafide 1st line player. I’m tired of inserting 3rd liners higher into the lineup for the past decade and saying “look, they are on the first line, that makes them a first liner”. That’s how you really wear out your stars, they work harder to score and carry the team rather than a team that can support your stars.

If Rantanen is available July 1, I’m 100% going to the bank up to 13.75 without blinking. After these cap reports for the coming years, you are dumb not to cough up for a player like that if he’s interested. I’ll go for Ehlers and Boeser too, but big fish is what we need to truly create the concept that is “lineup depth”.

 

[Coach Parker]

Did anyone see the flyers/flames trade? Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee to Calgary for a bag of pucks and some snapwax. I’m sure there’s some money guys that will wax poetic about cap implications but on the surface it looks like something that could have easily been done. Frost would be our most talented C on the team and Farabee your most skilled winger after 88. It would help now and down the road.

Saw it and was saying to myself, 'if they don't want Frost and Farabee they must want the cap for someone bigger.'

Would Seattle entertain moving berniers and daacord for a package of swayman, poitras +.

Even just Beniers.

 

[Fenian24]

Anybody seen or heard from milk carton Sweeney? 4 nations is being played in Boston, it is obviously more important to Sweengenius than his day job.

 

[Coach Parker]

Does anyone really have any confidence in this management group to start rebuilding? They ned to fire everyone and start over. Keep the chef, stick guy and the goalie coach, everyone else needs to be unemployed after overseeing and constructing this roster. All set with giving hand grenades to children .

It's looking like the next couple years will have the teams with money (Boston) be able to go to the cap while many more will be closer to the floor. I only wonder what this management team would actually do with cap space. In the past, it's been quite a bit of money on the bottom 6 and 7th/8th D.

Does the front office believe they can squeak into the wildcard? If not what reason do they have to not have Lysell and Merkulov up for a dozen games?

Oddly enough I think they are still trying to hold onto the old culture of accountability. They still see those guys as making too many critical errors and want that to have consequences.

The problem is that for the first time, the guys keeping the culture alive and preaching are the guys who are also failing to follow that mantra (Marchand, McAvoy, Coyle). So, why listen to the guys who don't do it themselves?

Boom, dressing room discord.

 

[22Brad Park]

I guess my major question for management is this:

Why spend

Saw it and was saying to myself, 'if they don't want Frost and Farabee they must want the cap for someone bigger.'


Even just Beniers.

Sweeney probably had no clue they were making that deal is a good bet.You give him to much credit

 

[Absurdity]

I think he's Riley Nash at 8 times the cost.

To Riley Nash's credit, he actually produced when he was on a line with Marchand and Pastrnak.

 

[Coach Parker]

And there goes Granlund (C) for a late 1st. They also grabbed Ceci for a 3rd.

C, 15 goals, 30 assists.

He would be the second highest scorer on the Boston Bruins, only behind Pastrnak. More than double the points of Coyle and making less. He's $5,000,000.

 

[Coach Parker]

 

[22Brad Park]

And there goes Granlund (C) for a late 1st. They also grabbed Ceci for a 3rd.

C, 15 goals, 30 assists.

He would be the second highest scorer on the Boston Bruins, only behind Pastrnak. More than double the points of Coyle and making less. He's $5,000,000.

Bruins can't afford to part with those picks

 

[Coach Parker]

Bruins can't afford to part with those picks

Bruins can't afford to make those picks.

Would you trade Beecher for Granlund?

 

[22Brad Park]

Bruins can't afford to make those picks.

Would you trade Beecher for Granlund?

Nobody wants Beecher

 

[Gordoff]

Ok, most deals are done on deadline day. Colorado has already traded both goalies and made the blockbuster rantanen-necas deal. Rangers have made numerous trades so far. Teams that are drastically underperforming and their GMs acted. The frustration is that Sweeney just sits and wastes the season, they couldn’t afford to wait until deadline day. The team has been bad for most of the season.

And as you mentioned, if you’re just giving up on the season as they appear to be then why waste time with Patrick Brown or Vinni Lettieri? Nothing they are doing makes any sense, just rolling out the same lineup game after game and not giving the Merkulovs or Lysells a chance. If not now, when? Just a frustrating time to be a fan.

Not defending them but maybe they figure that losing is contagious (as is winning) and once a player plays for a team in this situation it'll just poison the attitudes of these young players?

 

[Coach Parker]

Nobody wants Beecher

He's a 1st Round draft pick. That's what Boston does with 1sts. Others here I trust about prospects more have been posting that it's a top 12 and also a weak draft. Like 1999 levels.

 

[22Brad Park]

He's a 1st Round draft pick. That's what Boston does with 1sts. Others here I trust about prospects more have been posting that it's a top 12 and also a weak draft. Like 1999 levels.

I know where he was picked and keep hearing people say weak draft but there are good players in this draft.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

And there goes Granlund (C) for a late 1st. They also grabbed Ceci for a 3rd.

C, 15 goals, 30 assists.

He would be the second highest scorer on the Boston Bruins, only behind Pastrnak. More than double the points of Coyle and making less. He's $5,000,000.

This board would have rightly gone nuts if Sweeney had traded a #1 pick for Granlund. Dallas is the second best team in the West and a legitimate cup Contender. Granlund probably would have made Boston a 10- 15% better chance of making the postseason

In fact many people on this board kill Sweeney for going for it 2 years ago.

 

[Coach Parker]

This board would have rightly gone nuts if Sweeney had traded a #1 pick for Granlund. Dallas is the second best team in the West and a legitimate cup Contender. Granlund probably would have made Boston a 10- 15% better chance of making the postseason

In fact many people on this board kill Sweeney for going for it 2 years ago.

Probably. I don't know what's more depressing; that no one thinks the Bruins 1st should be given up for Granlund...

..or...

...that the guy would have been the 2nd highest scorer on the Bruins. If he isn't worth a 1st in many peoples' eyes, how bad is this roster?

 

[22Brad Park]

This board would have rightly gone nuts if Sweeney had traded a #1 pick for Granlund. Dallas is the second best team in the West and a legitimate cup Contender. Granlund probably would have made Boston a 10- 15% better chance of making the postseason

In fact many people on this board kill Sweeney for going for it 2 years ago.

I am not a big Sweeney guy but no issue 2 yrs ago him all in.Monty really dropped ball vs Florida switching D steady but Brad still had a break away to win series.I definitely like this post though.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Probably. I don't know what's more depressing; that no one thinks the Bruins 1st should be given up for Granlund...

..or...

...that the guy would have been the 2nd highest scorer on the Bruins. If he isn't worth a 1st in many peoples' eyes, how bad is this roster?

Remember he is also 32 and a FA at the end of the year. If Granlund were 24 then it is a very different discussion

 

[bbfan419]

Anybody seen or heard from milk carton Sweeney? 4 nations is being played in Boston, it is obviously more important to Sweengenius than his day job.

He has no fear of losing his job, that is why he can afford to do nothing.

 

[22Brad Park]

Probably. I don't know what's more depressing; that no one thinks the Bruins 1st should be given up for Granlund...

..or...

...that the guy would have been the 2nd highest scorer on the Bruins. If he isn't worth a 1st in many peoples' eyes, how bad is this roster?

What age is he now 32?NM Joel answered it for me

 

[Coach Parker]

Remember he is also 32 and a FA at the end of the year. If Granlund were 24 then it is a very different discussion

I know. So how bad are every other Bruins forward outside of Pastrnak who can't outscore him?

What age is he now 32?

Yup, and he's outscoring everyone in Boston not wearing #88.

I didn't want him either. But then I looked at his stats, hopped over to the Bruins Stats site and the picture was even more depressing.