Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIII

[Hookslide]

Necas parents travel from Prague with Pasta mother I believe I’ve read - it’s a long flight

Necas idol is pasta and he’s close with Zacha - they will all featured and together in post game WC gold medal game last May

The Bruins can not let this guy get away

He’s very good - he’s not a super star first ballot HOF who shits hold coins which is what many Bruins fans want

He would be huge add

Gotta think Colorado tries hard to resign him but if not

Unfortunately all my targets end up in Vegas
Stone
Eichel
Hanifin
Hertl

I’m Sweens when I see Pasta today I ask him what he thought of the big trade and mention we need you to recruite him here

You and I are kind of on the same page, on Necas. I say deal Swayman, for Necas, and it could be an expanded deal.

Necking Necas doesn’t leave Boston Today.

I would like that

 

[the negotiator]

Let's start the rumor mill of Nescas -Marchand as the potential starting- point for a trade

Colorado isn't done, the Bs need to make changes and the deal unites buddies in both cities

Likely- no.....but at least it gets us off the Miller discussion for a while

 

[Hookslide]

Let's start the rumor mill of Nescas -Marchand as the potential starting- point for a trade

Colorado isn't done, the Bs need to make changes and the deal unites buddies in both cities

Likely- no.....but at least it gets us off the Miller discussion for a while

I'm in

 

[DKH]

You and I are kind of on the same page, on Necas. I say deal Swayman, for Necas, and it could be an expanded deal.


I would like that

I’m not dealing Swayman he’s untouchable basically, I’m making sure we get Necas between June 15 2025 and July 1 2026

Pastrnak will and I’m sure 100 % is recruiting him. The NBA is not only sport this goes on

If I am Sweeney and I sense thru back channels with his agent and 88/18 he’s interested in coming here - after season I offer my first & a good prospect (Lysell????) for

I’m not dicking around - I want him here and locked up

 

[Oates2Neely]

I fully expect Sweeney to outbid everyone for Brock Nelson at the trade deadline as the Bruins cling to a wildcard spot. 1st + 2nd + Lysell + DiPietro + Letourneau

 

[The don godfather]

Would anyone do this deal?
Swayman and E.Linholm to Vancouver for Pettersson and Demko? The salaries pretty much even out.

I would do McAvoy for ep40

 

[Hookslide]

I’m not dealing Swayman he’s untouchable basically, I’m making sure we get Necas between June 15 2025 and July 1 2026

Pastrnak will and I’m sure 100 % is recruiting him. The NBA is not only sport this goes on

If I am Sweeney and I sense thru back channels with his agent and 88/18 he’s interested in coming here - after season I offer my first & a good prospect (Lysell????) for

I’m not dicking around - I want him here and locked up

Necas has another year on his contract, so you can do all the recruiting you want but will have to show great patience, now is the time. Swayman, contract is a killer, sorry but........

 

[TCB]

I’m not dealing Swayman he’s untouchable basically, I’m making sure we get Necas between June 15 2025 and July 1 2026

Pastrnak will and I’m sure 100 % is recruiting him. The NBA is not only sport this goes on

If I am Sweeney and I sense thru back channels with his agent and 88/18 he’s interested in coming here - after season I offer my first & a good prospect (Lysell????) for

I’m not dicking around - I want him here and locked up

All sounds nice, but in 10 years when has Sweeney actually traded for an elite player or for that matter has been able to obtain one via trade/free-ageny, to better the future of this team ?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

All sounds nice, but in 10 years when has Sweeney actually traded for an elite player or for that matter has been able to obtain one via trade/free-ageny, to better the future of this team ?

How many teams have traded for an elite player? Eichel, Tkachuk, now Rantanen. I guess you could say Erik Karlsson but I wouldn’t. Maybe you put Mark Stone in that category, but it depends on how you define elite, and you bolded it so guessing it’s a high bar.

Tkachuk gave Calgary three teams he’d sign with. Eichel wasn’t getting moved to Boston. So who else?

 

[KastelicKrew47]

Maybe we'll we are all playing dream land! We can send pasta and zacha to Colorado for Nathan Mackinnon. A guy can dream!!

 

[BamBamCam]

I wonder if Rantanen is determined to go UFA so Colorado decided to move him rather than lose him.

Why else would a Cup contender trade a core player?

I'm thinking/reading the Avs GM has a pay structure where no one makes more that McKinnon. Also Makar, McKinnon and now Necas contracts are due after next season.

 

[Hookslide]

Geekie Zacha Pasta
Marchand Poitras Coyle
Merkulov Lindholm Frederic

He is 24. Its time. Give him a sink or swim run. And if he sinks, its Lysell’s turn.

Lettieri Kastelic Brazeau Koepke and Beecher fighting for time on the 4th. With Beecher getting seriously put on notice.

Wahlstrom waived.

I have not been overly impressed in the small sample size that I have seen of him so far, but I agree give a shot, see what he can do and if he works out fine if not, now is the time to move him. I also feel if someone comes in and wants to make a deal with the Bruins, and is a deal that can make the deal better for the Bruins and they want Poitras, then do it, he is just will only be top 6 when he is needed for depth reasons. I believe when decisions are made on those two players, then it is time to take a look at Lysell, and move forward . My honest opinion, Loheri is their best and maybe only young guy that will be productive, I hope I am wrong, Loheri you will have to live with his warts though.

 

[wintersej]

I remember when the idea of moving Carlo for Necas was viewed as a horrible deal for the Bruins in this board.

 

[BruinDust]

I'm thinking/reading the Avs GM has a pay structure where no one makes more that McKinnon. Also Makar, McKinnon and now Necas contracts are due after next season.

MacKinnon is signed for 6 more years past this one. Necas one year left, Makar has 2.

I think your right about the pay structure though. It wasn't about keeping everyone below MacKinnon, but if they give Rantanen 14 million, what do they have to give Makar in 2027? They aren't getting Makar below MacKinnon's 12.6 two and a half years from now anyways.

But if they had signed Rantanen at 14, then Makar comes in higher than that, maybe substantially more depending on where the cap goes.

 

[Sheppy]

I remember when the idea of moving Carlo for Necas was viewed as a horrible deal for the Bruins in this board.

Now I’d move Carlo for Vernon Fiddler

 

[LouJersey]

“The defense has been above average”

Ya lost me, Anthony

really makes you wonder what some people are seeing.

 

[wintersej]

I would do McAvoy for ep40

I don’t see how folks can look at how the D group has looked without McAvoy and consider moving him. You then need a 1RD which is just to hard to find as a 1C.

I also think the 100 year celebration stuff hit McAvoy as much as anyone. He really loves wearing that sweater. That has value.

 

[bp14]

"A “retool” is subjective, and in the Bruins’ case, it may just be a bit of a roster overhaul while trying to remain competitive."

That quote is why I asked the question, 'what does a re-tool mean to you?" at the start of this thread.

I think most fans think there's a selling off players for picks component, but I think the Bruins look at it more like hockey trades that shake up the roster. Maybe they're trades they wouldn't normally attempt for fear of upsetting a winning team, but this year there's no such restriction.

IMO “retool” is still a version of rebuild. Meaning you can’t be looking for immediate improvement.

I’m fine with hockey trades and I’m fine with not selling off major pieces (like Pasta, McAvoy or Swayman), but they can’t get older. And they can’t take on longer term deals for 30+ year old players unless they are swapping out a longer deal and an older guy.

This team has next to no young talent. Zero. That’s the issue they need to resolve. Fast forward 3-5 years and this team blows. Lindholms are older and slower, Marchand is gone, etc. There’s next to nothing on the farm. If you run this franchise for future as much as the present, you’ve got a lot of work to do. So retool or rebuild or whatever we call it, they better get younger.

 

[LouJersey]

Carolina signed Orlov, now go and nab Rantanen. Oh and they add Taylor Hall to their 3rd line. Hockey trades are possible everywhere except in Boston.

Anxiously waiting to see Mr Regular Season wins leader has up his sleeve at the trade deadline

Their GM isn't dedicating a lot of his time to an exhibition tournament

 

[TCB]

How many teams have traded for an elite player? Eichel, Tkachuk, now Rantanen. I guess you could say Erik Karlsson but I wouldn’t. Maybe you put Mark Stone in that category, but it depends on how you define elite, and you bolded it so guessing it’s a high bar.

Tkachuk gave Calgary three teams he’d sign with. Eichel wasn’t getting moved to Boston. So who else?

Your right it does depend on how one judges elite. You saying a 3 time Norris Trophy winner in Erik Karlsson wasn't an elite player player, when only 3 players in history of the league has won more, is a perfect example.

I mean Sweeney signed Ullmark who was certainly Elite the year he won the Vezina, at least in the regular season,and he did receive a return for linus looking towards the future. So that to date is probably his biggest/best move. So maybe using Elite was a bad choice of words, but the point being is Sweeney just hasn't been a guy to acquire, shall we call it a difference maker or a highly skilled player through a trade in his tenure and who's made an offensive impact on this team, imo.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Your right it does depend on how one judges elite. You saying a 3 time Norris Trophy winner in Erik Karlsson wasn't an elite player player, when only 3 players in history of the league has won more, is a perfect example.

I mean Sweeney signed Ullmark who was certainly Elite the year he won the Vezina, at least in the regular season,and he did receive a return for linus looking towards the future. So that to date is probably his biggest/best move. So maybe using Elite was a bad choice of words, but the point being is Sweeney just hasn't been a guy to acquire, shall we call it a difference maker or a highly skilled player through a trade in his tenure and who's made an offensive impact on this team, imo.

Thats really not true though. An Eichel or a Rantanen, no of course not. But he’s made plenty of impact acquisitions.

 

[Dr Hook]

Sweeney just hasn't been a guy to acquire, shall we call it a difference maker or a highly skilled player through a trade in his tenure and who's made an offensive impact on this team, imo.

I'd say Taylor Hall fits that bill, and probably Bertuzzi- he put up some points for us. Outside of those two, I can't think of anyone. It's most often been the Stempniak, Stafford, Hayes variety.

 

[yazmybaby]

I would do McAvoy for ep40

I think the way McAvoy has played this year, his value is at an all time low.
Hopefully he can rebound and start playing some good hockey.
I would make that trade in a heartbeat.

 

[bp14]

Your right it does depend on how one judges elite. You saying a 3 time Norris Trophy winner in Erik Karlsson wasn't an elite player player, when only 3 players in history of the league has won more, is a perfect example.

I mean Sweeney signed Ullmark who was certainly Elite the year he won the Vezina, at least in the regular season,and he did receive a return for linus looking towards the future. So that to date is probably his biggest/best move. So maybe using Elite was a bad choice of words, but the point being is Sweeney just hasn't been a guy to acquire, shall we call it a difference maker or a highly skilled player through a trade in his tenure and who's made an offensive impact on this team, imo.

Being fair, Sweeney traded Donato for Coyle, a home run trade that netted a top 6 forward (whom he then probably overcommitted).

And he also dealt Haula for Zacha which is also acquiring a top 6 forward. And I’d say he clearly won that trade too.

Both of those were hockey trades. Not elite players per se, but damn good ones. I’d argue as important as signing Ullmark.

I don’t love Sweeney but I think people revise history to knock him. Hes been a pretty active GM and made some shrewd moves. IMO he just now needs to acknowledge the run is over and start getting younger immediately.

 

[Dr Hook]

Being fair, Sweeney traded Donato for Coyle, a home run trade that netted a top 6 forward (whom he then probably overcommitted).

And he also dealt Haula for Zacha which is also acquiring a top 6 forward. And I’d say he clearly won that trade too.

Good call on those- I had forgotten. Add Bert and Hall to that list and it's solid. For some reason it's easier to remember the shitty ones.