Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XIII

[pizzafrylover420]

Pretty sure this doesn’t make a whole lot of sense but maybe something around Frederic for Tommy Novak. Hell if they have soured on Lysell, throw him in and add to get Kemell?



Novak seems like he could be had, maybe a good change of scenery kind of guy. He put up decent numbers past few seasons. Maybe he could fit here, cheap for what he could bring.



Preds get the physical nasty advantage with Frederic, maybe he likes it better down there closer to home.

 

[EverettMike]

Do tell...

Pass

Anyway, my prediction: they're gonna scapegoat Swayman for this season and trade him for 60 cents on the dollar.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

All I know is I want the Bruins to make the playoffs this year and meet Washington in round 1 and beat them. I can do without losing to the Leafs .

 

[Gordoff]

All I know is I want the Bruins to make the playoffs this year and meet Washington in round 1 and beat them. I can do without losing to the Leafs .

You think that they'd beat Washington?

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

You think that they'd beat Washington?

Don’t know and don’t care . I just don’t want to lose to the Leafs .

 

[GordonHowe]

Boston Bruins veteran speaks highly of promising young star

Boston Bruins forward Charlie Coyle had a glowing review of new linemate Matthew Poitras after a win over the San Jose Sharks on Monday.

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[wintersej]

A lot of talk in the local media that they should do a re-tool.

What does a re-tool look like to you?

Play Poitras at 2C.

Play Lysell at 3RW.

Play Lorhei at PP1 and give him primo o-zone starts.

If you can find a futures deal you like enough for Frederic, Coyle and/or Brazeau take it and give Merkulov a job.

Evaluate.

Kucherov, Point, Guentzel, Hagel
Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares
Barkov, Tkachuk, Reinhart, Verhaghe

Pastrnak, Marchand, Zacha? Lindholm? Geekie?

The other teams can make two scoring lines out of two pairs. I think with goaltending and defense maybe you can get away with not having four first liners, but it can’t be one and a half, either.

See what you have in the kids either to keep or as bait. Go back into buy mode in the offseason and try to fix the problem.

Of course, if you can grab a JT Miller or whatever before the offseason, I won’t stop you. First liners don’t just fall from trees because you want one.

 

[wintersej]

Personally I think it's more likely than not that the Bruins are headed for some very lean and difficult times that will require a fully and lengthy rebuilding phase whether ownership like it or not. But I'm trying to look at a shorter retooling option as fairly as I can because I do think there's a possibility it could work and, more importantly, it's almost certain management are going to try it regardless of what any of us think. So what might that look like? May as well try and come to grips with it first because we all know they're not going to take the longer road and hit that nuclear button until they have absolutely no choice.

Yeah let’s be real, they will try a retool and won’t rebuild until it’s forced upon them. And even if you aren’t Monty Burns, it’s hard to argue. There are so many just terrible teams every year. It’s going to be impossible to get into the best parts of the lottery with any of Pasta, McAvoy or Swayman still on their prime on the roster.

 

[wintersej]

You think that they'd beat Washington?

I actually think the fact that Boston is a tough matchup for Washington. I think it would be a low scoring physical slow skating series and that plays into the hand of the underdog with a goalie.

Feels like it’s a five game series against the Atlantic teams unless Toronto self destructs again somehow.

 

[22Brad Park]

It’s like when they traded away
Lucic and Hamilton to stock pile draft picks. Was it 2015? I think it was. That was a retool. Not a full tank. Tanking is stupid. I would not want to watch this team lose for 15 years.


Dubois is playing well.

Tom Wilson has 20 goals.

F@#% the retool go hard for the cup as the plan is since start of the season...

Trade
Coyle + Freddy + Lysell + 2025 first
Vs
Miller + Desharnais (50% retain)

Marchy Miller Pasta
Zacha Lindholm Geekie
Merkulov Poitras Brazzeau
Beecher Kastelic Koepke
Jones
Lindholm McAvoy
Zadorov Carlo
Desharnais Peeke
Lohrei

Sway
Korpi

....ok f@#$ go for the retool!

Lohrei is not no extra D man.He is tied for 5th in team scoring

 

[TobanWest]

Can't see any of the core being moved. A couple depth pieces will be added at the deadline, if they are in a playoff position. Sweeney doesn't have the balls to pull off a core player trade. Other than the core players there isn't much to offer. Miller, Petey and Rantanen aren't going to be Bruins. They say they have a plan and seems like it's starting with bringing players up to see what's there. Letteri, Brown and To a lesser extent Jones are underwhelming options. McAvoy, Lindholm returning as well as Koepke, Kastelic and Frederic. Get healthy and hopefully gain some momentum into the playoffs is as good of an option this year as they have. Have to get rid of some bottom six players, prospects they don't want and replace with a couple top six players in the off-season.

 

[TobanWest]

Leave Lohrei and Poitras on this team for the long haul, Bring Merk and Lysell up for a solid look and let them sink or swim and waive Wahlstrom.... Please?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Pass

Anyway, my prediction: they're gonna scapegoat Swayman for this season and trade him for 60 cents on the dollar.

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[PlayMakers]

I understand that. Not an easy decision to make. Personally though I've already given up on this year. Perhaps they will surprise and I'll continue to watch and evaluate how they're looking as we go along, but my core belief is that this roster just isn't good enough and can't quickly be made so. I know what Florida did, but I think they were much better placed to do it than this current Bruins team. I also get the "just get in and see" argument, because there is history to support it. But again, just don't have that belief this year.

I guess you have to ask yourself this question - do you think they have better chances of success (and I mean real success, not playoffs one and done) in trying to salvage this season and go on a run, or writing this one off and using the next few months to try and re-load for another shot next year? If you feel it's the latter, as I do, then letting go on the current season becomes easier to accept. As I said before, it might not work, but I'd like to see them try.

Again, it's hard to answer that question without knowing how they address their needs.

If they got JT Miller, for example, I think that solves a lot of problems and has a massive impact. Even strength, power play, physical play, it would be a huge boost emotionally for the players, it would be a huge boost for the fans and the home atmosphere, it slots guys lower/ more appropriately in the lineup... Then we get McAvoy back, then we get Lindholm back, and Swayman has recently turned back into an elite goalie. I think that would be a dangerous playoff team.

If they trade for Jason Zucker, then yeah, I would feel like we're just throwing assets away to lose in the first round.

 

[PlayMakers]

I do understand and agree to an extent. But at the same time if not now, when?

I guess it comes down to whether we think we are, or can be close with this team. I do not think we are close. And I think the cost of getting what we need in order to get close (a true #1 Center at bare minimum) will be a significant dent in the minimal depth we have, and cost yet more #1 picks and some or all of our few young prospects.

Meanwhile, on that subject. Our bright young players are Poitras and Lohrei. Lysell perhaps. Beyond that not much. Meanwhile most other teams are going to get better as their better pool of cost effective prospects develop into regular contributors.

We’ve borrowed on the house and cashed out on the IRA’s. Shit’s gonna get real sometime.

I think that's fair, but I honestly think the cost to get JT Miller is going to be relatively cheap compared to his value as a #1c. I think this is a rare opportunity to pay two dimes and a nickel for a quarter.

 

[22Brad Park]

I think that's fair, but I honestly think the cost to get JT Miller is going to be relatively cheap compared to his value as a #1c. I think this is a rare opportunity to pay two dimes and a nickel for a quarter.

Nothing suggesting that Sweeney is trying to turn that card over.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

Again, it's hard to answer that question without knowing how they address their needs.

If they got JT Miller, for example, I think that solves a lot of problems and has a massive impact. Even strength, power play, physical play, it would be a huge boost emotionally for the players, it would be a huge boost for the fans and the home atmosphere, it slots guys lower/ more appropriately in the lineup... Then we get McAvoy back, then we get Lindholm back, and Swayman has recently turned back into an elite goalie. I think that would be a dangerous playoff team.

If they trade for Jason Zucker, then yeah, I would feel like we're just throwing assets away to lose in the first round.

Possibly. But I don't think Miller or any other one player is going to move the needle enough, at least not on their own. In principle though, yes, if you think Sweeney can somehow truly add enough to put this roster firmly in the contender category without subtracting too much at the same time, then you have to look at it. I just think the needs are too many and the necessary calibre of player is not coming to Boston, either because they don't want to or Don lacks the horses to outbid other suitors.

 

[TCB]

It feels like a "shake up trade" could be needed. This team was expected to be better. Something is missing from this group of players. An attention getter would trading someone like McAvoy for Barzal and Dobson. It feels like dobson could use a change of scenery. You would probably need to add. But McAvoy is from there so maybe he would waive. Atleast it might get the attention of the room!!

I like that idea and I think Barzal would too.

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[BigGoalBrad]

You trade Pasta for Brady Tkachuk you may as well put the “For Sale” sign up for the entire franchise.

You only consider trading Pasternak if Edmonton is shopping McDavid.

 

[Hookslide]

I guess they would want Pasta back but why would they want to downgrade?

Why not Swayman, has no trade protection, and would help with the cap, and I know it would not be straight up but it is a foundation. You don't have a team in front of the goaltender, then it is pretty useless .The

 

[Oates2Neely]

This is what stood out to me from that Islanders article. And this imo is why the Jacobs family is never overly concerned with the state of the team, and with the front office.

 

[Hookslide]

Pretty sure this doesn’t make a whole lot of sense but maybe something around Frederic for Tommy Novak. Hell if they have soured on Lysell, throw him in and add to get Kemell?



Novak seems like he could be had, maybe a good change of scenery kind of guy. He put up decent numbers past few seasons. Maybe he could fit here, cheap for what he could bring.



Preds get the physical nasty advantage with Frederic, maybe he likes it better down there closer to home.

I would look forward to giving up 40 lbs, and getting 47 % face offs, and career 22 hits. let's get this done, I will look so forward to the posts that will be so slanted to how soft this team is.

 

[Number8]

This is what stood out to me from that Islanders article. And this imo is why the Jacobs family is never overly concerned with the state of the team, and with the front office.

I agree.

But these figures always surprise me -- given that the owners don't have incentive to inflate (Cap implications). For example, our recent game against Florida looked to me like the were a lot of empty seats in that arena. Yet they report a 98.08% average attendance.

Maybe that's done on sales, and scalpers couldn't move tickets for Bruins?

 

[BruinsJoe]

Tom Wilson has 20 goals.

Lohrei is not no extra D man.He is tied for 5th in team scoring

Yeah no prob to put him in the line up but he s a black hole in defence he s -10, refuse to hit, soft along the boards and in front of the net, he s not more than small Grzelyck right now imo and he s a giant but play very little

 

[TCB]

This is what stood out to me from that Islanders article. And this imo is why the Jacobs family is never overly concerned with the state of the team, and with the front office.

A missed playoffs will hurt.

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