Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XII

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He very well maybe an asshole, I agree he might be a locker room issue hence a previous post saying I'm good with Miller if they do their due diligence with EL and Zad who shared the locker room with him last year. Maybe he's just uber intense and can't handle the passive nature of Pattersson. Maybe he's bipolar and lashes out at people unexpectedly. I have no idea but if he passes the reference and interview test then why not? He's one heck of a hockey player.
Basically he is guns a blazing intense, especially in the playoffs.

Here, I was center Ice for this game:

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Start at the 6:03 mark. That's the Lindholm, Zadorov and Miller that were on display all series and pushed Edmonton to 7. Pettersson was a ghost as this is the intense, give it your all that some guys just don't like.
 
Sorry to lay this on, but this is a short video of all the Canucks goals last playoffs:

Canucks Playoff Goals (Lindholm, Zadorov, Miller, Boeser show)

Just look at how many times Lindholm, Zadorov and Miller are dominating these highlights. The three of them and Miller could all be gone at the deadline and they were the guys showing up in the big moments during the playoffs. Miller played the entire series against McDavid.

I get people love to speculate but when you are ground zero here and listen to diehard Canucks season ticket holder fans and the non-stop media circus here you get an entire fanbase divided and for me, Miller is a great addition to a team that is all about the playoffs, intensity, expectations and giving everything possible for your team.
 
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Sorry to lay this on, but this is a short video of all the Canucks goals last playoffs:

Canucks Playoff Goals (Lindholm, Zadorov, Miller, Boeser show)

Just look at how many times Lindholm, Zadorov and Miller are dominating these highlights. The three of them and Miller could all be gone at the deadline and they were the guys showing up in the big moments during the playoffs. Miller played the entire series against McDavid.

I get people love to speculate but when you are ground zero here and listen to diehard Canucks season ticket holder fans and the non-stop media circus here you get an entire fanbase divided and for me, Miller is a great addition to a team that is all about the playoffs, intensity, expectations and giving everything possible for your team.
Hey I’m alright with Miller. Personally, I don’t need to be sold. Let’s get him.

Thing is… what is the cost?
 
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Hey I’m alright with Miller. Personally, I don’t need to be sold. Let’s get him.

Thing is… what is the cost?
Agreed. 100 pt 1st line C who are PPG in the playoffs and scream at fellow teammates that don't bring the same effort?

It's a much stronger dressing room and culture in Boston. Miller would become a fan favourite like he was here last year in Vancouver.

My guess? Carlo and Poitras? Coyle and Lohrei? Someone to replace Miller (downgrade) and then upgrade the D.

I'd also welcome Pettersson coming in with a fresh start and Pastrnak as his linemate in Boston but you have to understand that he is a quieter, more laid back Krejci and his personality comes off as super laid back and casual. Will Bruins fans and the media be as angry with him that the Vancouver fans, media and some mentioned teammates are?
 
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It might not even be that much if Miller says he's only going to NY or Boston. Probably why the Canucks are also looking to see if moving Pettersson is easier and gets more of a return.

Boeser leaves at the deadline too.

I'll tell you one thing, if Canucks are in the playoffs and Pettersson doesn't outscore Miller (who is traded by then) this city is going to eat him alive.
 
I like Miller too but let's not go crazy here. Miller has only a single 100 point season is his career and has 56 points in 91 career Playoff games. :nod:
100 point player is a 100 point player and 13th in scoring in the NHL over the last 5 years. He is a 1st line C and the once available across the NHL are slim to none.

I get exactly what you mean though. I have full-on fear that this Bruins team misses out on a player that fills the exact need and a buy-low price once again because they talk themselves out of it.

Also happens to be the one position the Bruins need immediate help with.

Ideally, you grab Miller before the Four Nations Cup, allow him to play here and settle in. Then he plays with McAvoy for USA, plays his first HOME game for USA in Boston MONDAY FEB 17th VS...Pettersson and Sweden and then have him come back to the Bruins dressing room ready for the playoffs with a recharged Lindholm (x2), McAvoy, Swayman, Marchand and a well-rested Zacha and Pastrnak.
 
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I find it comical that people think they're gonna trade Lindholm or Zadorov. (Even suggesting back to Vancouver lmao) Legitimately 0% chance either one is happening, they just signed these guys and like it or not they are part of the core.
We were also told here last year that there is no way Dubois would ever be traded.
 
How the actual fook is Poitras not getting PP2 time. Just embarrassing.

J.T. Miller must be a priority for this team. They are legit Cup contenders with him.

Full stop.

So what trade gets Miller here and leaves the Bruins as cup contenders? Who is going the other way? Almost has to be Carlo, and I guess Frederic? Is this team a cup contending defense without Carlo?

And of course any talk of cup contending means Swayman has to return to 2024 postseason form
 
100 point player is a 100 point player and 13th in scoring in the NHL over the last 5 years. He is a 1st line C and the once available across the NHL are slim to none.

I get exactly what you mean though. I have full-on fear that this Bruins team misses out on a player that fills the exact need and a buy-low price once again because they talk themselves out of it.

Also happens to be the one position the Bruins need immediate help with.
Well since we're both located in Vancouver and have a better pulse on the local team let me ask you this - would you prefer the Bruins go after Pettersson or Miller ???? I think the ask for either one will be fairly high but both have their advantages:

- Pettersson: 5.5 years younger than Miller ( Pettersson will turn 27 in November while Miller turns 32 in March )
- Miller: plays more of a " Bruins style " game and is much better suited for long Playoff runs

Both of them do have quite large and long contracts ( Miller has an $8 million cap hit until the 2030-31 season while Pettersson has an $11.6 million cap hit until the 2032-33 season ) so the Bruins would have to a few moves in order to fit either one onto the current roster. It will be interesting to see what our GM does to help fix this team. I hate the fact that the Bruins are now mediocre - I want all my favourite teams to either be contenders or suck for a couple of seasons and ( hopefully ) build through the draft. Right now the Bruins are in a spot I hate - not good enough to contend and not bad enough to get a high draft pick. :ha:
 
Well since we're both located in Vancouver and have a better pulse on the local team let me ask you this - would you prefer the Bruins go after Pettersson or Miller ???? I think the ask for either one will be fairly high but both have their advantages:

- Pettersson: 5.5 years younger than Miller ( Pettersson will turn 27 in November while Miller turns 32 in March )
- Miller: plays more of a " Bruins style " game and is much better suited for long Playoff runs

Both of them do have quite large and long contracts ( Miller has an $8 million cap hit until the 2030-31 season while Pettersson has an $11.6 million cap hit until the 2032-33 season ) so the Bruins would have to a few moves in order to fit either one onto the current roster. It will be interesting to see what our GM does to help fix this team. I hate the fact that the Bruins are now mediocre - I want all my favourite teams to either be contenders or suck for a couple of seasons and ( hopefully ) build through the draft. Right now the Bruins are in a spot I hate - not good enough to contend and not bad enough to get a high draft pick. :ha:
Couldn't agree more and I couldn't tell you which one I want more. I am honestly split.

I want Miller in the playoffs and with the Bruins for the next half-decade. But I could see Pettersson returning to truly elite form with Pastrnak.

Let's say that I truly 100% believe that whichever one gets out of Vancouver will light it up on their new team and Boston needs to be that team?

I just don't see a 1st line C that will help the Bruins except for the 2 in Vancouver.

I guess the NTC and assumed lower cost has me wanting Miller as it doesn't gut the team and prospect (and likely 1st Round pick) the way Pettersson does. I also worry more about chemistry and if Pettersson would fit in as well as Miller would.
 
Forget Miller and Pettersson. All-in for Rantanen. Just the guy that Bruins need. And Neely should also approve this, as he got size. Guy is still in his prime and can give more effort than Miller and Petterson combined. Also I’m not sure if getting lockerroom drama to Boston is the one that this team needs…

McAvoy and Marchand for Rantanen and Girard.
 
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I’d take him,but I just don’t see how it would work cap wise and give the Nucks what they’d want in return, the Bruins have way to many guys with trade protection
 
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Forget Miller and Pettersson. All-in for Rantanen. Just the guy that Bruins need. And Neely should also approve this, as he got size. Guy is still in his prime and can give more effort than Miller and Petterson combined. Also I’m not sure if getting lockerroom drama to Boston is the one that this team needs…

McAvoy and Marchand for Rantanen and Girard.
I have Carlo in the deal instead of McAvoy being a local guy for them and just keep adding until they say yes.

Carlo Lohrei Marchand Lysell 2 picks for Rantanen.
 

To spare everyone a deep drill into hockey analytics (not to worry, plenty of math here later), we’ll revive Ch. 38′s “Three Keys to the Game,” Fred and Derek style, ahead of the Bruins’ matinee Saturday in Ottawa.

The three keys for the Bruins will be, in order of significance: 1. Swayman; 2. Swayman; 3. Swayman.

If the pattern is not self-evident, the afternoon’s hopes, perhaps along with all playoff aspirations across 36 games left in the regular season, rest with the 26-year-old Jeremy Swayman. The ex-Maine Black Bear is now on top of his game in the midst of the Bruins as a whole intent on flirting with the bottom of the barrel.
Albeit a so-so 15-15-3 for the season, Swayman has been mostly brilliant and brilliant-plus for the better part of the last six weeks, in the wake of the 8-1 Manitoba mauling he and his Black and Gold brethren suffered on the snowy night of Dec. 10 in Winnipeg.

In his dozen games since, Swayman has stopped 307 of 334 shots, a sparkling .919 save percentage, and has been the one constant, the good thing keeping alive the franchise’s hopes of, as team captain Brad Marchand called it on Friday, “getting in the dance.”

Swayman was in net for the last two games, back-to-back wins, when the Panthers and Lightning combined for a hefty 88 shots on his net and a lopsided, mind-numbing 191-84 advantage in shot attempts. He let in five of those shots (.943 save percentage), and like the three keys noted above, would have been deserving of all three stars in both games.

The trend for Swayman has been Vezina-worthy, though the lead horses in that race are too far down the track with more wins for him to catch. As for the team he backs, as interim coach Joe Sacco stressed after Friday’s workout in Brighton, being so goalie-dependent is not how the Bruins care to go about their business.

“We don’t want to be doing that to our goaltenders,” noted Sacco, his squad ranked 10th in the Eastern Conference Friday morning with a .533 points percentage. “I think it’s [Swayman] getting back to being the goaltender he’s capable of being. But we don’t want it to be, ‘Hey, let’s give up 40 shots and have our goaltender save 37 or 38 of them,’ right? We want to be better in front of our goaltenders.”

If he were to keep up the pace, Swayman would finish with 59 appearances, the most by a Bruins goalie since Tuukka Rask’s 65 in 2016-17.

Swayman’s desire to carry such a hefty load was, in part, why the Bruins in the offseason wheeled Linus Ullmark to the Senators (Ullmark remains hindered by a back injury and will not be in net for the matinee).

To that point, particularly now with each start so significant, Swayman got what he bargained for (with the matching eight-year/$66 million contract finalized on the eve of the season). The workload, in fact, is more than either side calculated, and of late Swayman has more than held up his end of the bargain.

“I’m grateful to get my name called,” Swayman mused following the late-morning workout at Warrior Arena. “But at the same time, I’ve got to earn it, every single day, because we’ve got a competitive lineup to crack and that’s our job as a goaltending tandem [with partner Joonas Korpisalo].”

What Swayman learned along the way this season was a lesson or reminder not to change his training routine. He likes to think of his preparation, on and off the ice, as what leads him to treat each game and practice “like another day at the office.”

“I think I was playing with that at the beginning of the year, and I wasn’t getting the results,” he said. “I wasn’t getting the results that I wanted, didn’t feel as good as I wanted to, because my whole life I’ve worked for everything I’ve earned. That routine has worked for me and it’s given me a sense of pride in that work ethic and everyday effort. That’s a confidence-booster for me. I know if I am working my hardest and doing the extra work — and not taking short days or off days — I get better results out of myself and out of my body.”

Characterizing his off-day training “pretty sacred,” Swayman said he has grown diligent about incorporating pilates as part of his practice routine, helping him build hip and core strength.

“Every day I am trying to implement something to use these compensating muscles that don’t get used when I am on the ice as much,” he said. “That way I am trying to prevent injury, eliminate what could be a lingering injury related to, say, soft-tissue stuff.”

The puck drops Saturday at 3:08 p.m. in Ottawa, with Sway, Sway, and Sway upright and ready in the Bruins’ net.
 
It would have to be part of a much larger deal where we get Pettersson and Demko and they get Swayman and whatever else to even out salary
This makes more sense as far as terms of a possibility, as any trade between the Bruins and Canucks. Both Swayman and Pettersson have no current trade protection and Demko wants out. Make it happen Sweeney!
 

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