Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XI

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I think a lot of those names are definitely on the block.

For me, Carlo and Coyle fall under the big shakeup type trade that KPD is talking about. It's a long shot but it could be what they need to add some talent to the top6.

I think Frederic is a goner. I like the player (especially the previous two years) but I want all our cap space going to add top6 talent, and we have several of the big/heavy types in Geekie and Brazeau.

I think they re-sign Koepke, he's been a very good 4th liner.

Beecher... if they could get a decent pick or prospect for him in trade they should do it, but you don't see a lot of deals for 4th liners, and since he's an RFA I expect him to come back as the 9th/10th forward.

McLaughlin may not re-sign even if offered. He's a UFA and he looks to me like a good, energetic 4th liner. If the Bruins aren't going to give him a spot someone will.

Wotherspoon and Oesterle are just organizational depth. If they don't come back someone just like them will take their place (so I don't see why they wouldn't be back if the money works).

If Wahlstrom doesn't start producing I could see them not tendering him as well. He's played better of late, he's competing, but he's got to produce if his main attribute is offense.

Funny you mention Coyle/Carlo moves, as these are precisely the guys I was suggesting could turn in the offseason. Proposals that were met with cool reception.

 

[Forester65]

I love this team, but right now we absolutely do not deserve a place in the playoff hunt.

I worry that the plethora of crap in the East that is allowing us to stay in the hunt is going to tempt JJ to tell Sweeney to do something stupid.

We rank 24th in league in goal differential, which to my eye seems about right — and yet somehow we still in a PO spot. Don’t drink the Koolaid Donny.

Our playoff spot is an illusion. All teams below us have games in hand. Detroit and Montreal each have 3, Ottawa has 4 and Tampa has 5. We're playing terrible hockey right now. As they make up those games, we'll fall out of contention unless we start playing better.

 

[Kegs]

Funny you mention Coyle/Carlo moves, as these are precisely the guys I was suggesting could turn in the offseason. Proposals that were met with cool reception.

for pettersson?


Then I wake up.

Our playoff spot is an illusion. All teams below us have games in hand. Detroit and Montreal each have 3, Ottawa has 4 and Tampa has 5. We're playing terrible hockey right now. As they make up those games, we'll fall out of contention unless we start playing better.

Ottawa is playing really really well too.


Detroit is pretty far back even with the games in hand.

 

[PlayMakers]

With my proposed acquisition of Maccelli:

Maccelli - Zacha - Pastrnak
Geekie - Poitras - Frederic/Lysell
Marchand - Lindholm - Coyle
Koepke - Kastelic - Brazeau
Beecher, Etcetera

Inject some creativity and skill into the lineup with the new acquisition, Poitras and (perhaps) Lysell. Keep that Marchand line together against other teams’ best. And (I think) it’s doable, feasible.

That's a really interesting lineup. Points for creativity. Tons of money on the 3rd line but if Lysell and Poitras are the real deal and on ELC's that could work.

 

[TCB]

I’m hopeful for 8th seed and not trading first

After 10 years (2013-14 to 2022-23) of the most points, three President Trophies, losing in the 7th game I’m out on trying to build the super team, trading firsts.

Seriously, burned out from the expectations and disappointments

You get the 8th seed no expectations, no ridiculous costs for a potential extra game (yah that’s about me), you advance it’s an upset everyone is excited, you lose you pick 17-20 which is about area Connor, Barzal, Norris, and Thomas went after Boston took Sensyshyn & Vaakanainen.

The losses don’t move the needle for me anymore - i obviously want them to win and I’m going next 3-4 games but just get 8th and be the spoiler

Just under no circumstances trade that first for any rentel the odds are it’s just a loss of future

Honestly if they sneak in last week I’ll be happy I’m interested in what’s going on

I’m with yea but I also would like to see Sweeney sell and add a couple of picks/prospects in the process, preferably a 1st among those picks

 

[PlayMakers]

Funny you mention Coyle/Carlo moves, as these are precisely the guys I was suggesting could turn in the offseason. Proposals that were met with cool reception.

I've suggested a few Coyle trades this year too. I don't think they move those guys lightly, Coyle and Carlo, they've been good soldiers and important players for years here. It's also hard to see how the team wins a round without a good #2RD, but that's the bed Sweeney made. If he has to move Carlo for a F and then Frederic for a D it's what he has to do to improve the team.

They need to upgrade the skill level and that means taking some risk.

 

[DKH]

I’m with yea but I also would like to see Sweeney sell and add a couple of picks/prospects in the process

Sure I’m ok with it

You want to get in but the first is a no go unless the guy has term

 

[TCB]

Sure I’m ok with it

You want to get in but the first is a no go unless the guy has term

Yep
Term and under 28.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Our playoff spot is an illusion. All teams below us have games in hand. Detroit and Montreal each have 3, Ottawa has 4 and Tampa has 5. We're playing terrible hockey right now. As they make up those games, we'll fall out of contention unless we start playing better.

Bruins are 3 games over .500, Ottawa 2 over. Montreal is at .500, Detroit a game under. Tampa probably won't be caught, they are 5 games over.

I think that's the easy way to tell where a team stands, especially with such a discrepancy in games played.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Fill in the blank:

Charlie McAvoy is a top ______ defenseman in the NHL.

Now that is the question! The second part is Carlo.

 

[PlayMakers]

Our playoff spot is an illusion. All teams below us have games in hand. Detroit and Montreal each have 3, Ottawa has 4 and Tampa has 5. We're playing terrible hockey right now. As they make up those games, we'll fall out of contention unless we start playing better.

I don't know why people don't look at the standings in terms of win%. What's the point of deluding yourself into thinking you're 3rd in the division when you're really 7th in the Conference.

 

[TCB]

Ottawa is playing really really well too.


Detroit is pretty far back even with the games in hand.

Detroit has been playing really well since their coaching change and if they win their games in hand their only a point behind the Bruins.

 

[TCB]

Bruins are 3 games over .500, Ottawa 2 over. Montreal is at .500, Detroit a game under. Tampa probably won't be caught, they are 5 games over.

I think that's the easy way to tell where a team stands, especially with such a discrepancy in games played.

So winning percentage?
Let’s not forget the jackets, they’ve been picking up their game and the flyers are right there as well just a game below 500

 

[Tbaybruin]

This place is such a reflection of modern society in that people can rarely respond to a different or unique opinion without being condescending, belittling and just needlessly mean.

Things would likely go much differently if these conversations took place at a pub like they used to.

Best post I’ve seen in a very long time. Thanks

 

[Trizz617]

With my proposed acquisition of Maccelli:

Maccelli - Zacha - Pastrnak
Geekie - Poitras - Frederic/Lysell
Marchand - Lindholm - Coyle
Koepke - Kastelic - Brazeau
Beecher, Etcetera

Inject some creativity and skill into the lineup with the new acquisition, Poitras and (perhaps) Lysell. Keep that Marchand line together against other teams’ best. And (I think) it’s doable, feasible.

That actually doesnt look bad at all. 3rd line being a true shutdown line as well.

 

[SPV]

Just wish they could turn the 3rd line into a scoring line if Marchand/Lindholm/Coyle becomes a shutdown line.

I’d be curious what people would want to turn the “???” into if you lock into the following:

Geekie Zacha Pasta
Marchand Lindholm Coyle
??? ??? ???
Beecher Kastelic Koepke

Ideally this line is another 2nd line since they don’t have a top notch first line offensively. This is the line that has to make teams pay for loading up on Pasta.

Frederic, Brazeau, Wahlstrom, and the AHLers.

Any two of those names seem like you can add another name to and make it a scoring line? I see a few guys who could be the worst guy on the line. I don’t see any pairs for the 24-25 season. Maybe you hope the kids can be there in 25-26?

Or maybe you could put one of the AHL kids and Brazeau with a legit first line player (that could also provide a left shot on the PP, perhaps). Is that enough? Are there options outside of the Canucks to try to find that?

I’d like to try this for the rest of the year.
Trade Carlo & Frederic for futures.

Merkulov-Zacha-Pasta
Marchand-Lindholm-Lysell
Koepke-Coyle-Geekie
Beecher-Kastelic-Brazeau

Let Lysell and Merkulov get some NHL minutes, shorten the bench if you need to at the end of games. Sink or swim, we’re already sinking anyway.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

I'm hoping they focus on guys under 24 at the deadline. Someone like Dylan Cozens. Then sign Ehlers and you've added two top6 guys under 27. One is a former 30 goal guy, the other a point per game guy.

I'd be shocked if they turned out more than half the roster. When was the last time a team, any team, turned over more than half their roster in one off-season? Even the worst of the worst don't turn over half the roster.

Now that is the question! The second part is Carlo.

Right now top 20-25

 

[TCB]

Our playoff spot is an illusion. All teams below us have games in hand. Detroit and Montreal each have 3, Ottawa has 4 and Tampa has 5. We're playing terrible hockey right now. As they make up those games, we'll fall out of contention unless we start playing better.

Let’s not forget Columbus , Pittsburgh and Philly also all with games in hand. This is a year where the Bruins could make a move in an attempt to secure a playoff spot and still fall out of the playoffs. Sweeney needs to tred lightly here.

It’ll be interesting to see where the Bruins sit in the standings on January 14 and if their above 500

 

[Gordoff]

Coyle has been playing top line minutes as well, he stinks even worse than he did in the beginning of the year if thats even possible.

I would call lindy a third line center and Coyle a fourth line center if we are being honest.

Shit ton a money being paid to these two for sucking out the joint

...and they aren't alone. Much of this roster are overpaid flotsam & jetsam.

 

[Gordoff]

What do you think it'll take to grab Necas from Carolina? He's only 6.5$ for the next 2, I like to believe he wants to play with Pasta and get the Czech line 2.0 with him and Zacha. Doubt we have the assets given how well he's playing and Carolina's needs and our cap situation. I think he's a more realistic add over Pettersson and Miller that keep getting talked about

A miracle.

 

[Coach Parker]

? That lineup is incomplete. Insert your preferred 'big name players' and punch it up.

Yeah, hoping for something to give and one of those blanks being someone who can compliment the Pastrnak and 3-4th line team.

 

[Coach Parker]

"Not in their DNA" - Elliotte Friedman issues clear message to Boston Bruins over rebuild dilemma

Hockey analyst Elliotte Friedman discussed the Boston Bruins' uncertain form during his weekly podcast on Monday.

www.sportskeeda.com

“Boston has some elite players," Friedman said. "Look at Pittsburgh. They have the elite of the elite. But it catches up with you eventually. Eventually, you hit that cycle where you have to decide, are we going to rebuild and tear down? And you and I have talked a lot about the rebuild and the teardown and how hard they are. ... I think Boston, to me, like rebuilding is not in their DNA.”

Empty seats and pockets of Jacobs not overflowing will dictate the future. RIght now, the Bruins aren't an entertaining product.

 

[TCB]

I’d like to try this for the rest of the year.
Trade Carlo & Frederic for futures.

I’d call Billy Guerin and offer him them for Zeev Buium. Hell I’d even throw in this years first. (Lottery protected)

 

[Gordoff]

When was the last time a team, any team, turned over more than half their roster in one off-season? Even the worst of the worst don't turn over half the roster.

After the 2022-2023 Bruins season?

 

[Gordoff]

I’d call Billy Guerin and offer him them for Zeev Buium. Hell I’d even throw in this years first. (Lottery protected)

Guerin sent Coyle here, not sure he'd care for him or the ghost of Trent F.
He'd probably want Carlo and the 1st.