Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread VIII

[Fenian24]

You've been a proponent for getting bigger and grittier for years now. Well, they did. How does it look to you so far? Is this a winning roster? An actual contender? A playoff qualifier?

Myself I would rather have Zadorov and Kastelic over Grzelcyk and Heinen anyday. The need for upgrade at center has been an issue since Bergeron and Krecji left.

Always, always, always take grittier over softer. Tufte is not gritty, Jones is injury prone, Kastelic has been great, Zadorov is better than the horrible Grzelcyk. They can move on anytime from the big Charlie Coyle who plays like a midget and manages to get even worse in the playoffs.

Sorry the Lysells and Spooners never work out here for you.

 

[HumBucker]

Well you could move Coyle in another deal

He's redundant with Lindholm as your 2C and Poitras should likely be the 3C by the beginning of next year

I'd need to see more from Poitras before I hand him the 3C keys. He's just not strong enough yet.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

One of the problems is his salary, someone like Coyle would have to go the other way. The type of player they should be looking for is more like a Gabe Villardi type, not sure the Jets would make any deal right now, but that is the type of player we need. Zegras plays a soft game and if he came here and was not producing, he would become the new whipping boy. There is also some questions about his attitude.

For what it’s worth

Zegras has come into this year with a different mindset…. He’s playing a more complete game in all 3 zones…. He’s improved a ton in his own end. At this point people still claiming zegras hot dogs/doesn’t play defense just arnt watching Anaheim, and going off his previous seasons where he was guilty of that. He’s been our best forward, still a very dangerous dynamic player, but now he is more active in d zone and neutral zone.

His attitude is much better, not taking bad penalties, and not throwing fits. He’s been a leader in Anaheim.

He’s never going to be overly physical, but he does use his stick well(think datsyuk) and he is battling in corners and front of the net.

I really don’t think he’s even available, he’s made the changes in his gam…. And the offense will start coming back as he gets more comfortable with it.

 

[GordonHowe]

 

[Patdud]

if Zegras is available and you can do it then you do it

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

 

[CellyHard]

I'd need to see more from Poitras before I hand him the 3C keys. He's just not strong enough yet.

Gained 10lbs in the offseason, if he does that again he’s good in my book

 

[PlayMakers]

One of the problems is his salary, someone like Coyle would have to go the other way. The type of player they should be looking for is more like a Gabe Villardi type, not sure the Jets would make any deal right now, but that is the type of player we need. Zegras plays a soft game and if he came here and was not producing, he would become the new whipping boy. There is also some questions about his attitude.

Before Lindholm got injured, the Bruins were enough below the cap that they would have had a little over $6m at the deadline. I don't know how the Lindholm injury and replacements will affect that but they may not have to clear equal money. If they could afford $4m at the deadline then it's just a matter of including a Geekie or Frederic.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

if Zegras is available and you can do it then you do it

On the off chance he did ever get moved…. I could live with him being a bruin (but I’d prefer keeping him in Anaheim)

 

[Hookslide]

I'd need to see more from Poitras before I hand him the 3C keys. He's just not strong enough yet.

If his value is high enough and would help increase the value of a package that would be of value the Bruins than move him before you risk the chance of his value decreasing. Poitras, is not exactly tearing it up in Providence.

 

[Skelen]

if Zegras is available and you can do it then you do it

The same Zegras that has 2 goals this year? almost 6million a year on top of it, the ask would be more than he's worth. At that price you keep JDB and you at least know he gets things going in the playoffs and can play a 200ft game.

 

[Kegs]

The same Zegras that has 2 goals this year? almost 6million a year on top of it, the ask would be more than he's worth. At that price you keep JDB and you at least know he gets things going in the playoffs and can play a 200ft game.

Zegras would look good in Boston

 

[22Brad Park]

Before Lindholm got injured, the Bruins were enough below the cap that they would have had a little over $6m at the deadline. I don't know how the Lindholm injury and replacements will affect that but they may not have to clear equal money. If they could afford $4m at the deadline then it's just a matter of including a Geekie or Frederic.

3.4 at this moment in projected deadline space.

 

[CDJ]

In the SSS under Sacco, Peeke has started to get more ice time while Carlo gets less ice time

makes me wonder if they are going to move Carlo for a 2nd liner

 

[KrejciWinger]

In the SSS under Sacco, Peeke has started to get more ice time while Carlo gets less ice time

They are more or less the same player. Carlo gets to the line a step quicker, Peeke has a bit more awareness in the o-zone.

 

[DKH]

Lindholm & Carlo are excellent together supported by metrics and backed up by their comments

They need to be reunited as soon as can

Peeke & Zadarov you want against bottom 6

It should be Bruins advantage majority of time

The only downside is if I’m a referee they are easy picking to give a penalty for if I’m keeping score

Zegras would look good in Boston

His style isn’t this

Poitras would look better in Boston

I would not trade Poitras for Zegras

 

[CellyHard]

In the SSS under Sacco, Peeke has started to get more ice time while Carlo gets less ice time

makes me wonder if they are going to move Carlo for a 2nd liner

I think the key to moving Carlo is seeing what we have in Alex Regula...he has to be one of our most slept on prospects. Just about a .5 ppg in the AHL last year and lead in the league in +/-. He has game.

It's a shame he is hurt right now but once he gets a conditioning stint in him, I would love to see him get a couple of games to see what we have in him.

I'm not ready to move Carlo yet, but maybe in the offseason. RHD is important and costly in FA. It would only make sense if he can be replaced internally in a sense because it will leave a hole

 

[goldenblack]

Any time you have a reliable shutdown second pairing dman in a slump and he's signed for only 4.1M for 3 years, the best thing is to definitely trade him. Specially when you've been down 1-2 Dmen consistently (via injury) over the past 3 years.

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[CDJ]

Any time you have a reliable shutdown second pairing dman in a slump and he's signed for only 4.1M for 3 years, the best thing is to definitely trade him. Specially when you've been down 1-2 Dmen consistently (via injury) over the past 3 years.

He’s one of the only pieces that will realistically return you a top 6 forward, something you desperately need a lot more than a guy who looks to be redundant at this point

His play is inconsistent and he’s concussed by the end of every other year, not exactly sure how that is “reliable”. He’s often times one of the defenseman down! And he is certainly not a shutdown guy this year!

 

[Mick Riddleton]

They need more scoring after giving up on secondary guys like JVR, Heinen and Jake. Pasta is over thinking everything, he is the main target of other teams. They know they do not need to shadow anyone else.

 

[Hookslide]

Lindholm & Carlo are excellent together supported by metrics and backed up by their comments

They need to be reunited as soon as can

Peeke & Zadarov you want against bottom 6

It should be Bruins advantage majority of time

The only downside is if I’m a referee they are easy picking to give a penalty for if I’m keeping score


His style isn’t this

Poitras would look better in Boston

I would not trade Poitras for Zegras

The cap hit alone, makes it a no go. Although you good put him with Lindholm, and we could have the " no production money line ".

 

[easton117]

Lindholm & Carlo are excellent together supported by metrics and backed up by their comments

They need to be reunited as soon as can

Peeke & Zadarov you want against bottom 6

It should be Bruins advantage majority of time

The only downside is if I’m a referee they are easy picking to give a penalty for if I’m keeping score


His style isn’t this

Poitras would look better in Boston

I would not trade Poitras for Zegras

Not saying Zegras is the guy. But just based on age and progression I would think Boston would move Poitras if they could find a 23 year old centre who is ahead of what they already have in terms of career progression.

For no other reason than Boston’s window is the next few years after the summer they just had.

Poitras might turn in to something great in a few years. But they need that now. Hell just serviceable in the top six is their current need. Poitras currently can’t provide that. Kid is going to get killed if he doesn’t learn where the danger areas are out there.

Again I don’t watch enough of Zegras to know if he can be that. But the Bruins don’t have a lot of other chips to play. Maybe Carlo? Frederic?

Edit you’re spot on with the d pairings. And the penalty targets. You could set your watch to when one of those two will be in the box with 5 to go in the game

 

[UncleRico]

I’m not worried about the defense/goaltending.

It’s the offense that is the issue for me. From shot generation to puck possession time, it’s just all a mess.

More often than not in these losses it’s seems it’s mostly opposing teams just out puck possessing the bruins and caving them in.

Need more offense and time with the puck to take pressure off the defense and goaltending

 

[Hookslide]

They need more scoring after giving up on secondary guys like JVR, Heinen and Jake. Pasta is over thinking everything, he is the main target of other teams. They know they do not need to shadow anyone else.

Pasta might be in the squeezing the stick mode, and I think Zacha has been there, Geekie had chances yesterday, hopefully they continue to play like they did yesterday, they had some energy and chances, I think it all could come together at once......we can only hope right