Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread VIII

UncleRico

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I’m always worried when a potentially lame duck gm is trying to keep his job. This is the stuff that creates bigger issues down the road than we already have

Completely agree. However I do believe that is coming. Sweeney has to make a move potentially to save his job and I wonder how soon that move comes. Right now the bruins are on a 78 point pace.
 

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I mean do you think that Coyle and Frederic are 20 point players? That Zacha and Lindholm are 30 point players? That Pasta is a 70 point player?

They do need another scoring forward obviously and clearly. But there is a lot of missing offense here, too.

Until last year, Coyle was basically a 40 pt. player. To regress on a bad team and advancing in age down to 30? I think it's plausable. I can absolutely see it with Frederic, he doesn't get any PP time and with how poor the Bruins are generating chances at 5 on 5, it's going to hurt his production from years prior.

Zacha it's less likely but I think he needs Pasta to get going to put up numbers close to what he did the last two years. He needs the PP to get going as well to get his numbers up.

Lindholm? The reality is his prime is behind him. He was a 40 pt. guy last year between two teams. Then factor in the adjustment to this team, the motley PP, it will hurt his numbers. 30 is possible. It's only a 10 pt. swing.

Pastrnak? Who the heck knows. He could catch fire, he could be playing hurt, or he could just have an off-year. He's the mostly likely of the group to see his production jump considerably but that shouldn't be surprising.

This team-wide scoring slump is basically 15 games old, that's no longer a small sample size. We keep thinking everything will regress to the mean, I felt the same say 2-3 weeks ago. I'm starting to wonder.
 
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For zegras I'll do some combination of that.

Zegras should be no more than a cap dump . He is a soft one dimensional player who has been terrible for the last 2 years and makes a big boy salary . Maybe Coyle straight up for him if you want to shake things up in a big way, but he'd be hated in Boston
 
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Until last year, Coyle was basically a 40 pt. player. To regress on a bad team and advancing in age down to 30? I think it's plausable. I can absolutely see it with Frederic, he doesn't get any PP time and with how poor the Bruins are generating chances at 5 on 5, it's going to hurt his production from years prior.

Zacha it's less likely but I think he needs Pasta to get going to put up numbers close to what he did the last two years. He needs the PP to get going as well to get his numbers up.

Lindholm? The reality is his prime is behind him. He was a 40 pt. guy last year between two teams. Then factor in the adjustment to this team, the motley PP, it will hurt his numbers. 30 is possible. It's only a 10 pt. swing.

Pastrnak? Who the heck knows. He could catch fire, he could be playing hurt, or he could just have an off-year. He's the mostly likely of the group to see his production jump considerably but that shouldn't be surprising.

This team-wide scoring slump is basically 15 games old, that's no longer a small sample size. We keep thinking everything will regress to the mean, I felt the same say 2-3 weeks ago. I'm starting to wonder.
I mean if they run a 11% power play and 77% PK for the year they’ll be in contention for first overall pick. And they have the fourth lowest PDO in the league. Theres going to be some regression to the mean here - potentially a big move in some cases.
 

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I think we will be fine missing his mediocre d Zone coverage and his one even strength goal. Not to mention the automatic face off loss when killing penalties allowing the opposition a nice fresh start to their power plays.

I would trade him for an assistant to the assistant skate sharpener.


For team that lacks skill why would you trade a skilled rookie?
Probably for a better player?
 

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I mean if they run a 11% power play and 77% PK for the year they’ll be in contention for first overall pick. And they have the fourth lowest PDO in the league. Theres going to be some regression to the mean here - potentially a big move in some cases.

They got to start putting up some numbers here soon then, between now and the end of the year. Once the calendar turns to 2025 the quality of their competition gets significantly harder. Then factor in a very compressed schedule January to mid-Feb, and again coming out of the break. Marchand's numbers fell off the map once they got to Feb. last year.

Their saving grace right now is that there are 8 playoff spots and none of the bottom 9 in the East look like they are about to put a stranglehold on that final spot.
 

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Zegras = Ryan Spooner. Hard pass
Zegras has been working his way back from lower body issues including surgery and a groin problem. That’s when his game went south anyway.

When he was healthy Zegras reminded me of Patrick Kane, with those lightning quick mits and creative passes.

I don’t know how damaged the goods are but he’s as talented as they come.
 
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Does Zegras have any value? He's almost 24 and has 6 pts. in 18 games and makes 5.75 this year and next. Then he's arbitration eligible and a big number to qualify. If he's a 25-30 pt. player the next two years he probably doesn't get qualified at that number.

Yup, no way I am giving up the limited young talent we have to get him, and you need to come up with 5 million or so in cap room, unless you do something silly like give them even more to retain on him. Other than Coyle straight up, I just can't even fathom a deal that makes sense
 
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Zegras has been working his way back from lower body issues including surgery and a groin problem. That’s when his game went south anyway.

When he was healthy Zegras reminded me of Patrick Kane, with those lightning quick mits and creative passes.

I don’t know how damaged the goods are but he’s as talented as they come.
All flash and no substance left. Has gotten exposed pretty good - not to mention he’s a winger. He’ll be a reclamation project for someone but I don’t think he has the value you guys think he does, either on the ice or in trade value.
 

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Yup, no way I am giving up the limited young talent we have to get him, and you need to come up with 5 million or so in cap room, unless you do something silly like give them even more to retain on him. Other than Coyle straight up, I just can't even fathom a deal that makes sense

Even then it's a gamble. Coyle probably still helps you more right now if putting money on it. Zegras might excel here, he might never adjust.

Honestly I might be more inclined if I could give them back one of Elias/Hampus/Zadorov and get myself out of one of those commitments. 2 years of Zegras knowing if he doesn't cut the mustard jor meet his potential just non-tender him after and move on. But they all have NTCs and who knows their take on Anaheim. Hampus might be inclined being a former Duck. Likely a non-option.
 

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