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Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread VII

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Number8 said:
I have no problem with looking at what you can get for Freddie.

However, I hate the idea of trading an asset that apparently has interest around the League for a 32 year old veteran. Good player but the time to do that was they Orlov, Hathaway, Bertuzzi "we're all in" year.

This team needs to stock up the cupboards. They are well and truly bare.
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Disagree. We can't even give our top prospects a chance when the middle of the roster is embarrassing themselves. Any forwards we draft will just get banished to the minors forever in favor of defensive plugs.

Rotate proven guys in their prime and don't hold too long when a guy like Coyle gets too comfortable. Even Freddy was effected by the complacency during his UFA season the culture is that rotten.

shelbysdad said:
Who replaced Carlo

We are already down 2 D week to week
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Carlo is so terrible id take any of the Providence D over him. Sell while you can.
 
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Jorah Marshmont said:
I think they could get a relative haul for Brazeau at the deadline if he keeps producing like he is.
I like him and he’s a good story, but I imagine every playoff team would be in on a potential 20 goal scorer that would cost less than 400k on the cap if the Bs retained the max.
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Absolutely. The fact that so many playoff teams would be able to fit his low cap hit into their salary structure adds to his value quite a bit IMO if he can continue to produce. Big body net front presence type not a lot of those around.
 
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yazmybaby said:
I like your trade proposal.
Rust is a pain in the butt to play against most games and especially the playoffs.
Dumbass is open for business, let's get a deal done.


I agree lock him up now.
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Rust is locked up at age 32 till the 2027 season at over 5 mil per.Not the type deal Sweeney should be looking for at this stage in my opinion..Just my 2 cents
 
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BigGoalBrad said:
Lysell and Merk buried right now is ridiculous. We can't score in a brothel.
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The top 9 is

Geekie-Zacha-Pasta
Marchand-Lindholm-Brazeau
Freddy-Coyle-TJ

Only Geekie and TJ are possibly benchable for the youngsters you speak of. Geekie scored last game.

They obviously took a long hard look at TJ vs Lysell/Merk, and decided that for now, TJ made more sense. If he doesn't contribute offensively, my guess is you'll get your wish, unless a trade comes. But as others have said, promotion requires not sucking, and actually DOING something. The Bruins typically promote people who don't suck. Lysell has one goal in Providence. ONE.

We agree that even Poitras is more NHL ready to Lysell or Merk. And Poitras needed time in the A even....
 
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goldenblack said:
The top 9 is

Geekie-Zacha-Pasta
Marchand-Lindholm-Brazeau
Freddy-Coyle-TJ

Only Geekie and TJ are possibly benchable for the youngsters you speak of. Geekie scored last game.

They obviously took a long hard look at TJ vs Lysell/Merk, and decided that for now, TJ made more sense. If he doesn't contribute offensively, my guess is you'll get your wish, unless a trade comes. But as others have said, promotion requires not sucking, and actually DOING something. The Bruins typically promote people who don't suck. Lysell has one goal in Providence. ONE.

We agree that even Poitras is more NHL ready to Lysell or Merk. And Poitras needed time in the A even....
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You’re arguing with a guy who said Carlo is so terrible he’d take anyone in Providence over him and that the Bruins culture is “rotten”.
 
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BigGoalBrad said:
Disagree. We can't even give our top prospects a chance when the middle of the roster is embarrassing themselves. Any forwards we draft will just get banished to the minors forever in favor of defensive plugs.

Rotate proven guys in their prime and don't hold too long when a guy like Coyle gets too comfortable. Even Freddy was effected by the complacency during his UFA season the culture is that rotten.


Carlo is so terrible id take any of the Providence D over him. Sell while you can.
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Surely you jest.
 
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BigGoalBrad said:
Disagree. We can't even give our top prospects a chance when the middle of the roster is embarrassing themselves. Any forwards we draft will just get banished to the minors forever in favor of defensive plugs.

Rotate proven guys in their prime and don't hold too long when a guy like Coyle gets too comfortable. Even Freddy was effected by the complacency during his UFA season the culture is that rotten.


Carlo is so terrible id take any of the Providence D over him. Sell while you can.
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I understand, but who are our top prospects?

Imagine you come down for a late night snack and open the cupboards looking for a nice chewy cookie -- only to find that Dimitri Orlov, Tyler Bertuzzi, and Garnett Hathaway got there before you and ate the whole lot.

And I'm not slagging off our decision to go all in -- supported it then and support it now. But that doesn't mean I can deny the implications for today AND tomorrow.

Unless you think this current makeup is close to a Cup contender -- you must temper any decisions with preserving the opportunity to restock at some point. In today's League you cannot build a winner by UFA or trades -- those days are gone.
 
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goldenblack said:
Wasn't Vegas mostly exactly that? Now that said, your point is well taken. Everyone else was a drafted core. But I think Vegas showed that it is possible (just not probable).
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I agree, but I think it's also fair to say for a host of reasons that Vegas was an outlier in more ways than one. The expansion "draft" alone means it's not something that another team could replicate. Kudos to them though, they did it exceptionally well.
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
So why wouldn't the Bruins want to keep him?
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Maybe they do. All we are saying that they could get a decent return on him as a rental to a contending team with his low cap #.

If the Bruins like him that much but are not in the playoff hunt, you can trade him and try to bring him back over the summer. If it turns out that he extends where he's traded to or signs elsewhere as a UFA, oh well, so be it.

What I don't want the to do is extend him before they decide if they are buyers or sellers and take him off the trade block. Same as Frederic or even Marchand for that matter.
 
goldenblack said:
Wasn't Vegas mostly exactly that? Now that said, your point is well taken. Everyone else was a drafted core. But I think Vegas showed that it is possible (just not probable).
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Florida didn't build their team through the draft: Bennett, Tkachuk, Reinhart, Luosterainen, Forsling, Montour, OEL, Verhaeghe, Rodrigues, Bobrovsky... all trades or UFA's.

So that's the last 2 Cup winners.

Boston's turnaround in 2008 was also driven by UFA's Chara, Savard and Thomas, and their Cup was heavily influenced by UFA's and trades for guys like Horton, Boychuk, Seidenberg, Ference, Recchi, Ryder, Kelly, Peverley, Paille, Campbell, Thornton...
 
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PlayMakers said:
I'm not in the trade Carlo camp, and it's a bit 'EA Sports' but you could trade Carlo for a top6 forward and then flip Frederic for a defensive minded #4 RHD.
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Yep. The one area where Boston has some depth and a fair amount of trade value is on the blueline. If we make a move to add scoring help, one of our Top 4 D-men will go in the opposite direction and Carlo is probably the most likely candidate.

I think the move you proposed above makes a lot of sense and could realistically happen.
 
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