Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread V

[GordonHowe]

I will say I think Doak was fearless. I saw him drop to his knees and block shots no sane person would attempt to do.

It's not very nice, but I think you can hear the result when he speaks.

 

[Gordoff]

It's not very nice, but I think you can hear the result when he speaks.

When we were teens, we used to say that a great aunt of ours put her false teeth in "upside down." We were rotten little bastids!

 

[Dizzay]

August 6th.......no Swayman news, anyone else getting a bit nervous?

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

August 6th.......no Swayman news, anyone else getting a bit nervous?

Not really.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

August 6th.......no Swayman news, anyone else getting a bit nervous?

Would have been weird to sign him while he was in Europe no?

 

[jgatie]

August 6th.......no Swayman news, anyone else getting a bit nervous?

No. And neither should you.

 

[Jorah Marshmont]

August 6th.......no Swayman news, anyone else getting a bit nervous?

Check back in on September 6th

 

[Dizzay]

Would have been weird to sign him while he was in Europe no?

He's been in Europe from Late June to early August? Long trip......

 

[jgatie]

He's been in Europe from Late June to early August? Long trip......

Except for your own mental health, which shouldn't matter one bit to the actual parties involved, why would it matter if he was signed July 1st (which is the actual first day he can sign) or the day before the pre-season starts as long as he signs?

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Except for your own mental health, which shouldn't matter one bit to the actual parties involved, why would it matter if he was signed July 1st (which is the actual first day he can sign) or the day before the pre-season starts as long as he signs?

He's trying to follow Ullmark

 

[Lobster57]

watching the Hlinka/Gretzky tournament. It would be pretty cool if we could acquire a 2026 1st from a lottery bound team. McKenna looks like the real deal to me.

But i think we'll see the Penguins "miraculously" win the lottery that year

 

[Dizzay]

Except for your own mental health, which shouldn't matter one bit to the actual parties involved, why would it matter if he was signed July 1st (which is the actual first day he can sign) or the day before the pre-season starts as long as he signs?

I just find it interesting that it's August 7th, and still not signed, that's all.

1. Could be nothing
2. Could be there's something else brewing and the Bruins don't want to play their cards in trade talks
3. Could be Swayman and Bruins aren't aligned on money and or term

 

[jgatie]

I just find it interesting that it's August 7th, and still not signed, that's all.

1. Could be nothing
2. Could be there's something else brewing and the Bruins don't want to play their cards in trade talks
3. Could be Swayman and Bruins aren't aligned on money and or term

Or it could be the off-season and Swayman would rather be with his family and friends, or travelling, or sitting at home playing video games than go through a contract negotiation. Either way, it's nothing to get "a bit nervous" about. It will happen the way it's going to happen, and there's nothing our worrying about it will do to change that. It's literally manufactured drama.

 

[Fenian24]

He's been in Europe from Late June to early August? Long trip......

Looking for Euro teams to play for this upcoming season

 

[bruinsfan1968]

I just find it interesting that it's August 7th, and still not signed, that's all.

1. Could be nothing
2. Could be there's something else brewing and the Bruins don't want to play their cards in trade talks
3. Could be Swayman and Bruins aren't aligned on money and or term

1. It's a nothing burger! Enjoy the summer!

 

[Ace0813]

Had Evan Marinofsky on my pod today to talk about the Swayman contract, the cap situation, PTOs, and more.

 

[wintersej]

Marchand Lindholm Pastrnak
Frederic Coyle Lysell
Zacha Poitras Geekie

I think you get the most out of Marchand and Lindholm putting them with Pasta. Marchand scored about the same as Frederic at 5 on 5 last year. I don’t think he can drive a line like that anymore.

Frederic and Coyle are a good duo and Lysell gives them some speed and puck carrying ability to let them get to work down low. Will rely on Frederic looking for his shot.

Pairing Zacha with Poitras gives him both a skill player to play with and some weak side faceoff support. Zacha and Geekie give Poitras size to work with. Relies on Zacha shooting more.

 

[Hookslide]

Marchand Lindholm Pastrnak
Frederic Coyle Lysell
Zacha Poitras Geekie

I think you get the most out of Marchand and Lindholm putting them with Pasta. Marchand scored about the same as Frederic at 5 on 5 last year. I don’t think he can drive a line like that anymore.

Frederic and Coyle are a good duo and Lysell gives them some speed and puck carrying ability to let them get to work down low. Will rely on Frederic looking for his shot.

Pairing Zacha with Poitras gives him both a skill player to play with and some weak side faceoff support. Zacha and Geekie give Poitras size to work with. Relies on Zacha shooting more.

Zacha points have gone up every year he has been in the league, with last year being his career high, and you want to put him on the third line now that he is hitting his prime years, uhh no thanks.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Except for your own mental health, which shouldn't matter one bit to the actual parties involved, why would it matter if he was signed July 1st (which is the actual first day he can sign) or the day before the pre-season starts as long as he signs?

The actual day he can sign was January 1. July 1 is for UFAs.

For players playing under a 1 year deal... which he was in 23-24, he was eligible to be "extended" with his new contract at any point after January 1.

 

[wintersej]

Zacha points have gone up every year he has been in the league, with last year being his career high, and you want to put him on the third line now that he is hitting his prime years, uhh no thanks.

So what is the concern there. TOI?

Outside of Pasta, everyone in the top 9 played basically the same amount.

Marchand played 14:01. Zacha 13:39. Geekie 13:32. MAROON 13:27. Heinen 13:01. DeBrusk 13:33.

So it can't be TOI.

Is it quality of teammates?

Unless Zacha is with Pasta, is playing with Frederic or Coyle or Geekie or Lysell or Poitras really that different? It's basically "you are with Pasta or you are not with Pasta" with this lineup. You can make the argument that playing Zacha with Pasta instead of Marchand with Pasta is the right move. I would argue that stretching out Marchand's prime by letting him use his skill with skilled players rather than having to drive everything is more important, but it's a totally reasonable argument.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

So what is the concern there. TOI?

Outside of Pasta, everyone in the top 9 played basically the same amount.

Marchand played 14:01. Zacha 13:39. Geekie 13:32. MAROON 13:27. Heinen 13:01. DeBrusk 13:33.

So it can't be TOI.

Is it quality of teammates?

Unless Zacha is with Pasta, is playing with Frederic or Coyle or Geekie or Lysell or Poitras really that different? It's basically "you are with Pasta or you are not with Pasta" with this lineup. You can make the argument that playing Zacha with Pasta instead of Marchand with Pasta is the right move. I would argue that stretching out Marchand's prime by letting him use his skill with skilled players rather than having to drive everything is more important, but it's a totally reasonable argument.

All TOI isn’t the same though.

Zacha had 60% offensive zone starts. Coyle had 43%. Pasta 68%. Marchand 53%.

You could argue that it would be better for Marchand to have more OZ starts this year, but that doesn’t necessarily make the team better.

 

[wintersej]

All TOI isn’t the same though.

Zacha had 60% offensive zone starts. Coyle had 43%. Pasta 68%. Marchand 53%.

You could argue that it would be better for Marchand to have more OZ starts this year, but that doesn’t necessarily make the team better.

I think that’s very fair. With Marchand I see a guy who can still put up points on the PP but was Frederic like at 5 on 5. I bet ya Zacha could be Frederic like at 5 on 5 with Frederic deployments, too. And I bet Marchand would be a lot better with Pasta.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I think that’s very fair. With Marchand I see a guy who can still put up points on the PP but was Frederic like at 5 on 5. I bet ya Zacha could be Frederic like at 5 on 5 with Frederic deployments, too. And I bet Marchand would be a lot better with Pasta.

It depends on how sheltered they want to be with Poitras. Got 70% OZ starts last year (as any sane coach would do). If they approach that again, who do you want with him? Because you’re also giving Pasta huge OZ numbers too. So the second line with Coyle needs to get buried in that case. I don’t think you’re seeing Zacha-Poitras-Lysell much on purpose. So now Geekie is deployed like Pasta basically if he’s on that third. But Frederic-Poitras-Geekie can handle more DZ deployments especially with the multiple options for faceoffs.

It’s not as simple as who plays with who - it’s how they use them. And the other side of the ice matters a lot in that equation.

 

[bbfan419]

watching the Hlinka/Gretzky tournament. It would be pretty cool if we could acquire a 2026 1st from a lottery bound team. McKenna looks like the real deal to me.

But i think we'll see the Penguins "miraculously" win the lottery that year

If he ends up in Pittsburgh, Edmonton, Montreal or Toronto, you will know it was rigged.

 

[Dizzay]

Or it could be the off-season and Swayman would rather be with his family and friends, or travelling, or sitting at home playing video games than go through a contract negotiation. Either way, it's nothing to get "a bit nervous" about. It will happen the way it's going to happen, and there's nothing our worrying about it will do to change that. It's literally manufactured drama.

Me too! I'd rather be a part of the f*** around gang than worry about my career and my future! Good post! Likely furthest thing from his mind right now