Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread IX

[Dennis Bonvie]

3 yrs of Kreider would just add to what is going on here. Him and the coach don’t get along?

What's that, 3 more years in the playoffs?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Bring in a new coach from the outside that changes it up

If I knew how to fix it I wouldn't be doing what I do now, but anyone can see changes in coaching and strategy need to be changed

If the execution doesn't change, coaching and strategy changes won't help.

 

[Blowfish]

Waived I believe

Dom remarked he would be a good pick up. Perhaps bruins tried?

What's that, 3 more years in the playoffs?

Exactly. Get him! A speedy scoring Bostonian would be awesome.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Guy is at least finding his goal scoring ability. He is projecting out at a 22G clip now on a goal starved team. Coyle's start was beyond brutal, but last two weeks his play has been trending towards a decent 3C. Put Koepke and Kastelic with him the next 3 games and see what you get.

He has scored three goals in the last few games with Freddy on his line, why in the world would you change that up?

Wouldn't it make sense to leave that line alone now that Coyle looks to be getting his head out of his ass?

 

[wintersej]

I thought @PlayMakers was smoking the good stuff laced with better stuff when he mentioned Kastelic with Zacha and Pasta as an option.

But after seeing how much having Kastelic on the 3rd line rejuvenated that line... maybe its worth a look and slotting Geekie down on the third line where he belongs.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Dom remarked he would be a good pick up. Perhaps bruins tried?


Exactly. Get him! A speedy scoring Bostonian would be awesome.

Who would Fabbro replace? That pick up makes zero sense for the B's unless they trade or waive one of their own 7-8 Men.

 

[NDiesel]

You make a good point but Geekie did produce 17G and 39Pts last year. I can't blame them for at least giving him a look in the top 6. I think they will keep Geekie with 18\88
for at least the next three games.

Yeah and I get that is why they are giving him this leash, but if it's not Geekie there is always another vet that they seem to plug in and let play poorly for way too long...Foligno as another recent example...I just don't get why this opportunity is never given to younger guys.

 

[The don godfather]

Guy is at least finding his goal scoring ability. He is projecting out at a 22G clip now on a goal starved team. Coyle's start was beyond brutal, but last two weeks his play has been trending towards a decent 3C. Put Koepke and Kastelic with him the next 3 games and see what you get.

Keep coyle depth depth.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Yeah and I get that is why they are giving him this leash, but if it's not Geekie there is always another vet that they seem to plug in and let play poorly for way too long...Foligno as another recent example...I just don't get why this opportunity is never given to younger guys.

Honestly who has shown anything worthy of getting that chance. Management obviously has zero faith in Providence call ups.

 

[NDiesel]

Honestly who has shown anything worthy of getting that chance. Management obviously has zero faith in Providence call ups.

Merk is close to a PPG every year on Providence and they give him 3 games on line 3. What is the worst that can happen trying him on line 1 for 10 games instead of Geekie? Although the geek is looking better lately.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Merk is close to a PPG every year on Providence and they give him 3 games on line 3. What is the worst that can happen trying him on line 1 for 10 games instead of Geekie? Although the geek is looking better lately.

Geekie is not losing his spot to Merk. Bruins don't have 10 games for a try out on their first line.

 

[Hookslide]

Keep coyle depth depth.

We agree, what is going on.

 

[PlayMakers]

I thought @PlayMakers was smoking the good stuff laced with better stuff when he mentioned Kastelic with Zacha and Pasta as an option.

But after seeing how much having Kastelic on the 3rd line rejuvenated that line... maybe its worth a look and slotting Geekie down on the third line where he belongs.

Brind'Amour is a master at this. He has three grinders, Martinook, Robinson and Carrier, each on a scoring line to provide that spark of energy. Aho, Necas and Svechnikov all play on different lines and feast on the chaos those 4th liners create.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Merk is close to a PPG every year on Providence and they give him 3 games on line 3. What is the worst that can happen trying him on line 1 for 10 games instead of Geekie? Although the geek is looking better lately.

The Bruins scout every game he plays in Providence, and he has been in camp the last 2-3 years. They have a much better idea of how they feel he can pay at the NHL level than any of us do.

there have been a lot of players who put up a ton of points at the AHL level but aren't NHL guys

 

[DominicT]

Dom remarked he would be a good pick up. Perhaps bruins tried?

Yeah I did, a season ago before the current crop of blue liners.

 

[IveGotToBeMe]

Well, Mark McLaughlin isn't that guy either. I like the kid and the effort but I'd give someone else a shot at that spot. Looking for someone to make more of the opportunity. Ok, you can all beat me down now

 

[NDiesel]

The Bruins scout every game he plays in Providence, and he has been in camp the last 2-3 years. They have a much better idea of how they feel he can pay at the NHL level than any of us do.

there have been a lot of players who put up a ton of points at the AHL level but aren't NHL guys

My point was moreso to the OP saying that players need to earn their spot and not be gifted it, yet they will "gift" Geekie (or various other vets) top 6 minutes and even if he isn't producing will keep him there, while Merk or whoever will get 3 games in the bottom 6 and he's gone.

I'm sure Kastelic/Koepke were scouted a lot too by various teams, but opportunity is huge in reaching your potential which is why they seem to be excelling. Brazeau another great example of giving guys opportunity to succeed and seeing what they can do.

 

[PlayMakers]

Well, Mark McLaughlin isn't that guy either. I like the kid and the effort but I'd give someone else a shot at that spot. Looking for someone to make more of the opportunity. Ok, you can all beat me down now

I like what I've seen from McLaughlin and thought he did a good job on the 4th line.

 

[RoccoF14]

My point was moreso to the OP saying that players need to earn their spot and not be gifted it, yet they will "gift" Geekie (or various other vets) top 6 minutes and even if he isn't producing will keep him there, while Merk or whoever will get 3 games in the bottom 6 and he's gone.

I don't think they're "gifting" anybody top 6 minutes. I think they're going with the best players they feel they have on their roster. I agree with you that Geekie is not a top 6 forward on a good team. But just because we're forced to use him there doesn't make Merkulov any more qualified to take that spot either. Same goes for Lysell.

Putting those 2 guys in that role is a desperation move. I don't think the B's feel they need to resort to that level of desperation just yet. Who knows, that may change as the season progresses.

As the previous poster said, they know what they have in those 2 players, far more intimately than you or I.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

As the previous poster said, they know what they have in those 2 players, far more intimately than you or I.

But with that philosophy, you can’t criticize anything the team does. Because they know their players more intimately than we do.

 

[RoccoF14]

But with that philosophy, you can’t criticize anything the team does. Because they know their players more intimately than we do.

Not sure I follow your point?

 

[shelbysdad]

If the execution doesn't change, coaching and strategy changes won't help.

The execution won't change without coaching and strategy changes

 

[NDiesel]

I don't think they're "gifting" anybody top 6 minutes. I think they're going with the best players they feel they have on their roster. I agree with you that Geekie is not a top 6 forward on a good team. But just because we're forced to use him there doesn't make Merkulov any more qualified to take that spot either. Same goes for Lysell.

Putting those 2 guys in that role is a desperation move. I don't think the B's feel they need to resort to that level of desperation just yet. Who knows, that may change as the season progresses.

As the previous poster said, they know what they have in those 2 players, far more intimately than you or I.

Again i think it's helpful to read the OP I replied to, but the issue is not really gifting him a spot, it's knowing that he's being slotted above and giving him a long leash even when he's not producing, but seemingly young guys are expected to produce right away in 3rd line roles or else they're gone.

I'm not here trying to sell the notion that Merk or Lysell or anyone else in Providence is our saviour, but rather that they are given such little opportunity and leash when they come up and it seems that vets are given much more even when they look like crap. Maybe they've earned that right, but I personally don't like the message it sends to both young guy and vets on the team.

 

[chizzler]

What's that, 3 more years in the playoffs?

You sure about that?

 

[Dr Hook]

I like what I've seen from McLaughlin and thought he did a good job on the 4th line.

I agree, he did a solid job there. The issue (and it isn't his fault) is that they don't really need another 4th line grinder type right now. I suppose all things considered he is a better option than Tyler Johnson to dress.

Again i think it's helpful to read the OP I replied to, but the issue is not really gifting him a spot, it's knowing that he's being slotted above and giving him a long leash even when he's not producing, but seemingly young guys are expected to produce right away in 3rd line roles or else they're gone.

I'm not here trying to sell the notion that Merk or Lysell or anyone else in Providence is our saviour, but rather that they are given such little opportunity and leash when they come up and it seems that vets are given much more even when they look like crap. Maybe they've earned that right, but I personally don't like the message it sends to both young guy and vets on the team.

100% with you on this. It is not that our young offense guys are so great (though they could be) but that you see guys like Geekie get chance after chance after chance to do nothing, and Merk gets 3 games, doesn't produce at a PPG and is gone.