Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread IV

[PaulD]

Charlie is very, very good. And I believe he's underrated and underestimated by this fan base. Surprise.

The issue is that he has been called upon to do everything. Way too much. The prime example is quarterbacking the number one power play unit.

I think Charlie believes that because he makes 9.5 million he should be Raymond Bourque. Charlie McAvoy is not Raymond Bourque.

Zadorov is going to help him a great deal. He's going to give Charlie the time and space in the offensive zone that Gryz did in his own way when things were going well.

Beyond that, Mason will sooner or later take command of the quarterback position on the first power play unit.

Charlie can move to the second unit. I think he's going to have a very good year next season.

Don't disagree. He tries to do way too much and ends up playing poorly because of it.
Does not have the high end skill to quarterback a powerplay.
Gets lost on coverage plays in front of his own net far too often. Gets caught out of position looking for the big hit.
He's no futute Norris candidate , where we used to refer to him as a future Norris Dman.
Charlie was at his best when he played with Chara.

 

[PaulD]

I like McAvoy.
Which is why I've been majorly disappointed in his play off performances for atleast his last 4 rounds.

 

[lopey]

I like McAvoy.
Which is why I've been majorly disappointed in his play off performances for atleast his last 4 rounds.

Sure fooled me

 

[Mad-Marcus]

Totally, just that 40 goal scorers who can drive a line and don't rely on PP production don't make UFA often, so the idea of being able to grab one in Guentzel was appealing, especially with Marchand turning 37 this season. Marchand needs to be moving his way to being the Mark Recchi on the line, not the driver on the line ASAP. But, totally understand wanting to see what you have in Lysell and making sure the D doesn't have pairing that can be exposed.

Guentzel was my UFA binky, Zacha would have had 50 apples easy with him and Pasta. Now has the unfortunate pressure of replacing Stamkos, KuZ and Point should make that easier to accomplish, but still.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Don't disagree. He tries to do way too much and ends up playing poorly because of it.
Does not have the high end skill to quarterback a powerplay.
Gets lost on coverage plays in front of his own net far too often. Gets caught out of position looking for the big hit.
He's no futute Norris candidate , where we used to refer to him as a future Norris Dman.
Charlie was at his best when he played with Chara.

Insanity

 

[PaulD]

Insanity

nope

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

nope

Yep

 

[PaulD]

Sure fooled me

Over rated is what he is.
Top six Dman? Just not so.

 

[UncleRico]

Don't disagree. He tries to do way too much and ends up playing poorly because of it.
Does not have the high end skill to quarterback a powerplay.
Gets lost on coverage plays in front of his own net far too often. Gets caught out of position looking for the big hit.
He's no futute Norris candidate , where we used to refer to him as a future Norris Dman.
Charlie was at his best when he played with Chara.

In the last 5 years he’s finished top 20 in norris voting all 5 times. Top 10, three times. And finally top 5 twice.

He absolutely is a Norris candidate every season.

 

[shelbysdad]

Don't disagree. He tries to do way too much and ends up playing poorly because of it.
Does not have the high end skill to quarterback a powerplay.
Gets lost on coverage plays in front of his own net far too often. Gets caught out of position looking for the big hit.
He's no futute Norris candidate , where we used to refer to him as a future Norris Dman.
Charlie was at his best when he played with Chara.

I really think his issue is that he over thinks things and doesn't play instinctively...
Especially when behind, tries to make a tricky play, which usually leads to a turnover
Needs to settle down and let the game happen and just react and play naturally

 

[PaulD]

I really think his issue is that he over thinks things and doesn't play instinctively...
Especially when behind, tries to make a tricky play, which usually leads to a turnover
Needs to settle down and let the game happen and just react and play naturally

Most definitely. Been saying it for couple years. He isn't as good as Cale Makar......but he seems to think he is. Nothing a good D coach couldn't resolve.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Don't disagree. He tries to do way too much and ends up playing poorly because of it.
Does not have the high end skill to quarterback a powerplay.
Gets lost on coverage plays in front of his own net far too often. Gets caught out of position looking for the big hit.
He's no futute Norris candidate , where we used to refer to him as a future Norris Dman.
Charlie was at his best when he played with Chara.

I think he gets worn down because he plays too much in every situation. Not carrying the baggage of Gryz and having Zadorov deliver the hits will improve his game 50%

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Most definitely. Been saying it for couple years. He isn't as good as Cale Makar......but he seems to think he is. Nothing a good D coach couldn't resolve.

I think for posterity you should list all the defensemen you’d take over McAvoy. I’ll spot you Makar. You made it clear you’d take Ekholm over him. Fascinated to see who else.

 

[Hookslide]

What if I told you that last year, teams scored much more 5 on 5 against McAvoy than they did on Fox?

I don't think that means Fox is better defensively than McAvoy, he's not.

But I think the gap isn't nearly as big as some would say.

And Fox's partner is who?

 

[GordonHowe]

Former Bruins Forward Leaving NHL For Hometown Team

Boston Bruins forward Oskar Steen will be leaving the NHL to head back to his home country of Sweden for five years.

www.google.com

 

[Mad-Marcus]

He does run around looking for hit, sometimes, and is the victim of being headhunted for retribution.
Hopefully the coaching staff redirects his energy. Peeke and Zadorov, and Wotherspoon when he'll play can be the pounders.
Chuck has all the talent in the world to get top 5 Norris votes, every year. He just has to decide what he wants to be. Defensively responsible and offensively opportunistic, with great skating, and a knack for going deep off the rush.
He doesn't need to be the battering ram. A big of a dude as he is, he's not that big compare to what has become the average size of 3rd and 4th liners(and what remains as power forwards)

Former Bruins Forward Leaving NHL For Hometown Team

Boston Bruins forward Oskar Steen will be leaving the NHL to head back to his home country of Sweden for five years.

www.google.com

Hopefully his years of being a bobble head doll are over. Got talent, just has a glass jaw.

 

[PaulD]

I think for posterity you should list all the defensemen you’d take over McAvoy. I’ll spot you Makar. You made it clear you’d take Ekholm over him. Fascinated to see who else.

I did just that.
From the list my first post stated I would put him at 16th. Right below Ekholm.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

In the last 5 years he’s finished top 20 in norris voting all 5 times. Top 10, three times. And finally top 5 twice.

He absolutely is a Norris candidate every season.

Please...

Norris voting usually doesn't have 20 players who get votes, period.

Even coming in 10th Charlie only got 1 3rd, 1 4th and 6 5ths.

He's gotten 3 first place votes overall in 7 full seasons. Odds are they were all from Bruins writers.

Lindholm got 12 first place votes in 2022-23 alone when he came in 4th.

No, McAvoy has not been a serious contender for the Norris trophy.

Not yet.

 

[Bestido]

Insanity

I dont get it either. I can count on one hand the number of right shot D in the league that I would take over him. People making the guy sound like Darnell Nurse in here

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I did just that.
From the list said I would put him at 16th. Right below Ekholm.

Well given that you alone disagree with McAvoy’s standing why would I assume that you’re perfectly fine with the other 15?

 

[PaulD]

Well given that you alone disagree with McAvoy’s standing why would I assume that you’re perfectly fine with the other 15?

It's list of dmen an I offered my opinion.on it.
Yours is different. I get it.
Cheers

 

[UncleRico]

Please...

Norris voting usually doesn't have 20 players who get votes, period.

Even coming in 10th Charlie only got 1 3rd, 1 4th and 6 5ths.

He's gotten 3 first place votes overall in 7 full seasons. Odds are they were all from Bruins writers.

Lindholm got 12 first place votes in 2022-23 alone when he came in 4th.

No, McAvoy has not been a serious contender for the Norris trophy.

Not yet.

So McAvoy coming in 4th and 5th isn’t being a serious contender?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It's list of dmen an I offered my opinion.on it.
Yours is different. I get it.
Cheers

Hey you want to take Dougie Hamilton over McAvoy have at it.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

So McAvoy coming in 4th and 5th isn’t being a serious contender?

Correct.

When McAvoy came in 4th he got 18.6% of the vote percentage.

Makar had 83.64%, Josi 82.36% and Hedman 48.21%.

When Charlie came in 5th he only got 12.50%.

 

[UncleRico]

Correct.

When McAvoy came in 4th he got 18.6% of the vote percentage.

Makar had 83.64%, Josi 82.36% and Hedman 48.21%.

When Charlie came in 5th he only got 12.50%.

So if coming in the top 5 doesn’t make you a serious contender does that mean the bruins haven’t been serious cup contenders since 2018 since they haven’t finished in the top 3 of the league?