Prospect Info: '24-'25 Prospects Thread: Generation Z

[Gurglesons]

this post otoh is the opposite of bringing receipts

It's really easy for nobodies on Twitter to criticize respected voices.

I'm not a big fan of Pronman's, but he's doing an exercise on 139 prospects.

Nitpicking the difference between "elite" and "high-end" is told dork level stuff from somebody who thinks their work is better.

All I learned from this is this Pronman character is not someone I should concern myself with.

He is who he is.

At least he isn't Craig Button.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Pronman hustles and gets to rinks in person. Never have taken him for a box score watcher.

The flaws are both in the model- as no single person can cover every player so how tf can they rank them? The way the Athletic does it is dumb. Wheeler should cover an area of NA, Pronman another, and then a Euro guy.

Other flaw- grading system. It always contradicts what he writes and never has made sense, even when he was doing number grades.

He is good at describing play styles and strengths/weaknesses/concerns/upside and who is playing well. His grading system and tiers are always junk but whatever.

If you’re actually worried about if he rated a prospect he just raved about in the written blurb high-end instead of elite because you think there’s no way he’s worse than Connor McConnor you are the problem lmao.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Bringing recipes.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Really nice play from McGroarty

 

[Turin]

Pronman just released his top-140 NHL players and prospects under 23 and the Penguins had Brunicke (94), Pieniniemi (97) and Pickering (116) on it. Yager is ranked 88th and McGroarty is not on the list, but Pronman has never been high on McGroarty due to McGroarty's skating.

Pronman is an actual reterded person.

 

[Jacob]

Ilyin’s scoring is down but his PPG is up, and he’s 3rd on Severstal in points. Last year he finished 8th.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Updated- Penguins Prospects:

Player​	Games Played​	Goals​	Assists​	Total Points​
Mac Swanson- LW​	22​	2​	10​	12​
Chase Pietila- RD​	23​	4​	11​	15​
Harrison Brunicke RD​	15​	3​	9​	12​
Tanner Howe- LW Calgary Hitman/ Pats​	19​	8​	9​	17​
Tanner Howe- LW Team Canada U20​	5​	1​	0​	1​
Finn Harding- RD​	40​	5​	31​	36​
Emil Pieniniemi- LD​	35​	5​	32​	37​
Emil Pieniniemi- Finland U20​	6​	2​	1​	3​
Cooper Foster- C​	40​	15​	24​	39​
Cruz Lucius- RW​	3​	0​	2​	2​
Mikhail Ilyin- (KHL) LW/RW​	44​	4​	19​	23​
Zam Plante- C​	21​	4​	6​	10​
Kirill Tankov- (VHL) C​	18​	4​	3​	7​
Daniel Laatsch- LD​	22​	2​	3​	5​
Joona Vaisanen- RD (Western Michigan)​	19​	1​	8​	9​
Taylor Gauthier- Goalie (ECHL)​	10​	GAA 2.31​	SV % .917​	Win/Loss 6-4​
Sergei Murashov- Goalie (ECHL)​	19​	GAA 2.50​	SV % .923​	Win/Loss 15-2-1​
Mathieu De. St. Phalle-LW/RW (AHL Deal) ECHL​	34​	12​	18​	30​
Atley Calvert-Center (AHL Deal) ECHL​	33​	12​	22​	34​
Jack Beck- RW/LW​	33​	7​	25​	32​
Avery Hayes- C/RW (AHL Deal)​	22​	9​	7​	16​
Ville Koivunen- LW/C​	33​	10​	17​	27​
Mac Hollowell- D​	29​	0​	19​	19​
Rutger McGroarty- C/W​	31​	5​	13​	18​
Vaslli Ponomaryov​	24​	6​	13​	19​
Tristan Broz-C​	27​	12​	7​	19​

 

[Ulf5]

Updated- Penguins Prospects:

Player​	Games Played​	Goals​	Assists​	Total Points​
Mac Swanson- LW​	22​	2​	10​	12​
Chase Pietila- RD​	23​	4​	11​	15​
Harrison Brunicke RD​	15​	3​	9​	12​
Tanner Howe- LW Calgary Hitman/ Pats​	19​	8​	9​	17​
Tanner Howe- LW Team Canada U20​	5​	1​	0​	1​
Finn Harding- RD​	40​	5​	31​	36​
Emil Pieniniemi- LD​	35​	5​	32​	37​
Emil Pieniniemi- Finland U20​	6​	2​	1​	3​
Cooper Foster- C​	40​	15​	24​	39​
Cruz Lucius- RW​	3​	0​	2​	2​
Mikhail Ilyin- (KHL) LW/RW​	44​	4​	19​	23​
Zam Plante- C​	21​	4​	6​	10​
Kirill Tankov- (VHL) C​	18​	4​	3​	7​
Daniel Laatsch- LD​	22​	2​	3​	5​
Joona Vaisanen- RD (Western Michigan)​	19​	1​	8​	9​
Taylor Gauthier- Goalie (ECHL)​	10​	GAA 2.31​	SV % .917​	Win/Loss 6-4​
Sergei Murashov- Goalie (ECHL)​	19​	GAA 2.50​	SV % .923​	Win/Loss 15-2-1​
Mathieu De. St. Phalle-LW/RW (AHL Deal) ECHL​	34​	12​	18​	30​
Atley Calvert-Center (AHL Deal) ECHL​	33​	12​	22​	34​
Jack Beck- RW/LW​	33​	7​	25​	32​
Avery Hayes- C/RW (AHL Deal)​	22​	9​	7​	16​
Ville Koivunen- LW/C​	33​	10​	17​	27​
Mac Hollowell- D​	29​	0​	19​	19​
Rutger McGroarty- C/W​	31​	5​	13​	18​
Vaslli Ponomaryov​	24​	6​	13​	19​
Tristan Broz-C​	27​	12​	7​	19​

I hate Cs with more goals than assists lol. Reminds me of the likes of Brandon Sutter.

 

[Jacob]

Probably borderline but I think Foster should get an ELC. He’s improved his production pretty significantly and he plays for Dave Cameron so those numbers might need an asterisk. And the goals and points he gets seem like the kinda plays that would work in the pros, if not the NHL. A lot of top-ins, for example:

 

[PensFutures]

Foster will be playing in Erie on March 22 for anyone wanting to get a closer look, I think I will be going.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Foster will be playing in Erie on March 22 for anyone wanting to get a closer look, I think I will be going.

I went to the Otters game on the 10th and no one on the Otters looked too decent.

 

[PensFutures]

I went to the Otters game on the 10th and no one on the Otters looked too decent.

I believe Schaefer has a broken collarbone and is currently out long term