'24-25 Former Predators Thread

[Mass]

You love to see it

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Let's go Tomasino!!

I'm cheering for the Trotz rejects (Sherwood, Tomasino, Fabbro and Askarov). I really hope they have success.

 

[Predation]

Let's go Tomasino!!

I'm cheering for the Trotz rejects (Sherwood, Tomasino, Fabbro and Askarov). I really hope they have success.

Yeah I guess I am too. I was just hoping that they would fail and management decisions would be vindicated. But it doesn’t look that way at all. Almost all of the cast offs have moved on to be successful on their new teams. It really looks like Trotz and Bruno have no idea what they’re doing, and this could go on for a very long time. I hope I’m being overly dramatic.

 

[herzausstein]

So who is the next young guy we lose to waivers or trade for peanuts that will make our management and coaching look dumb?

 

[Soundgarden]

Tominsino just got his first goal for the Pens.

Game winning goal assisted by Malkin no less.

 

[herzausstein]

Game winning goal assisted by Malkin no less.

Also had 7 SOG

 

[Armourboy]

So who is the next young guy we lose to waivers or trade for peanuts that will make our management and coaching look dumb?

Parsinnen most likely

 

[Viqsi]

So who is the next young guy we lose to waivers or trade for peanuts that will make our management and coaching look dumb?

Evangelista. I'm not convinced Parssinen will find himself a good landing spot.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

They won't be forced to trade Evangelista. He is still waiver exempt and can be sent to Milwaukee. Uh, at least this year. Next year...

So it is Parssinen.

 

[Enoch]

The Tomasino and Fabbro mistakes are such obvious coaching issues that we just gave up on. Our coach legit holds grudges that everyone in the organization knows about. Its bizzare.

 

[herzausstein]

Evangelista. I'm not convinced Parssinen will find himself a good landing spot.

If i were a rival GM, id be scoping out how these castaways perform on other teams. If Tomasino shows signs of flourishing or even just improvement, id give any young player cast aside from here a shot

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

It seems like Columbus is almost intentionally rubbing our noses in it with Fabbro now? I mean, I've always liked him and thought he deserved a much better fate. But he has been over 22 mins a game, with 24:27 last night? He is +11 since they got him. On Columbus.

I knew he was going to be a decent/good #3/4 guy. Or I thought I knew that. But this is getting a little ridiculous. Meanwhile, our right side is:

Carrier
Schenn
Blankenburg

 

[Predsanddead24]

If i were a rival GM, id be scoping out how these castaways perform on other teams. If Tomasino shows signs of flourishing or even just improvement, id give any young player cast aside from here a shot

What’s even crazier is each of our last two coaches didn’t like those guys. Really just don’t understand it at all.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

What’s even crazier is each of our last two coaches didn’t like those guys. Really just don’t understand it at all.

I still wonder if our Captain liked him? I mean, the results were there. And if he liked playing with that guy, he probably has enough of a voice that the coaches would listen. And if he didn't like playing with that guy...

 

[Viqsi]

It seems like Columbus is almost intentionally rubbing our noses in it with Fabbro now? I mean, I've always liked him and thought he deserved a much better fate. But he has been over 22 mins a game, with 24:27 last night? He is +11 since they got him. On Columbus.

I knew he was going to be a decent/good #3/4 guy. Or I thought I knew that. But this is getting a little ridiculous. Meanwhile, our right side is:

Carrier
Schenn
Blankenburg

The theory was always "he did great next to Josi, maybe he can do the same next to Werenski." Normally such simple ideas don't pan out exactly as expected, especially when it's been years later. This seems to be one of the rare exceptions to that rule.

(also, no badmouthing bae)

 

[Viqsi]

I still wonder if our Captain liked him? I mean, the results were there. And if he liked playing with that guy, he probably has enough of a voice that the coaches would listen. And if he didn't like playing with that guy...

...maybe Josi just doesn't try to throw his weight around on matters like that?

I dunno, I got nothin'.

 

[Legionnaire11]

I still wonder if our Captain liked him? I mean, the results were there. And if he liked playing with that guy, he probably has enough of a voice that the coaches would listen. And if he didn't like playing with that guy...

Had that same thought this morning. Wasn't there a rumor that Josi didn't get along with Fiala? Maybe I'm off in conspiracy land, but it makes as much sense to me as anything else.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Josi always wanted to play with Ellis. I don't know, I think he likes playing with somebody else who is bold and brash and maybe talks a big game and has a big contract, regardless of any objective evidence or what we above ice level see as being a better fit?

I've always assumed that Fabbro, by quietly hanging back, and possibly also not being super vocal or brash about anything, might be diminished from Josi's pov, regardless of whether the outside view says they worked better as a pairing.

But who really knows. When you really can't figure out why an organization seems to completely overlook a player that is so obviously better than his utilization, you're left grasping at straws.

 

[beardawg]

Had that same thought this morning. Wasn't there a rumor that Josi didn't get along with Fiala? Maybe I'm off in conspiracy land, but it makes as much sense to me as anything else.

To be fair, it doesn't seem like anyone gets along with Fiala. Dude probably gets traded away from LA by summer

 

[Armourboy]

Josi always wanted to play with Ellis. I don't know, I think he likes playing with somebody else who is bold and brash and maybe talks a big game and has a big contract, regardless of any objective evidence or what we above ice level see as being a better fit?

I've always assumed that Fabbro, by quietly hanging back, and possibly also not being super vocal or brash about anything, might be diminished from Josi's pov, regardless of whether the outside view says they worked better as a pairing.

But who really knows. When you really can't figure out why an organization seems to completely overlook a player that is so obviously better than his utilization, you're left grasping at straws.

Yeah we don't really have enough to say one way or another, unless Fabbro comes out and says something in an interview and he has never seemed like that kind of guy.

As you said, Josi was always pretty vocal about wanting to play with Ellis, so its pretty easy to flip things and think he would be vocal about who he doesn't want to play with as well.

I know we are just fans, but some of us have been watching hockey longer than these players have even been alive. Yes we may not have been involved with NHL anything, but our opinions aren't coming from a point of idiocy. Especially in Nashville, where we have seen a whole host of great Dmen come through. We may not know what a good center looks like, cause you know we rarely get them, but by god Goalies and Dmen we've gotten pretty good at picking out.

The Fabbro thing hasn't made sense to any of us from the get go. No one has ever really been able to come up with a good reason why he hasn't played. The last two coaches didn't like him for some reason, but why? The why is the part that has always been missing and with his play in Columbus makes the why an even bigger question that needs to be answered.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

It's too early to do a true "I told you so" when it comes to Fabbro but if he keeps this up through the end of the season we'll know that Poile was right all those years ago when he felt confident he could trade away PK because Fabbro was going to be really good.

It's good to see him regaining his confidence after his career got derailed by idiotic personnel decisions.

 

[ShagDaddy]

What’s even crazier is each of our last two coaches didn’t like those guys. Really just don’t understand it at all.

You know who didn’t have a problem with them and actually got decent production out of them? Karl Taylor

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

It's too early to do a true "I told you so" when it comes to Fabbro but if he keeps this up through the end of the season we'll know that Poile was right all those years ago when he felt confident he could trade away PK because Fabbro was going to be really good.

It's good to see him regaining his confidence after his career got derailed by idiotic personnel decisions.

I was looking back at some stats as I had been including Hynes in the indictment of Fabbro's treatment but was surprised to remember he played his most games (79) under Hynes in the season after he was paired with Josi. Granted, much of that was on lesser pairings, but I believe that was fully due to bringing in and elevating McDonagh (and there was a belief Fabbro could anchor a [third] pairing whereas Carrier could not).

So this bullshit was also all on Bruno and Trotz.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

I was looking back at some stats as I had been including Hynes in the indictment of Fabbro's treatment but was surprised to remember he played his most games (79) under Hynes in the season after he was paired with Josi. Granted, much of that was on lesser pairings, but I believe that was fully due to bringing in and elevating McDonagh (and there was a belief Fabbro could anchor a [third] pairing whereas Carrier could not).

So this bullshit was also all on Bruno and Trotz.

Yeah, I never could fully grasp the pairings and minutes that Hynes gave Fabbro but the pressbox stints were a Brunette thing.

 

[PredsV82]

I think we can safely conclude that Bruno is a f***ing idiot and Trotz has made a huge blunder continuing to trust him and making personnel decisions based on Brunos dumbass coaching.

I'm gonna have to disengage from this team and hockey just like I've had to disengage from politics. The anger it's causing isn't healthy.