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22-23 Regression!

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kilowatt said:
My expectations for this team this year were to compete for the division title, win a playoff round, and finish better than they did last season.
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I can see it now...the Kings will win the division with 98/99 points and this board will be up in arms over the regression.
 
I'd rather come in 2nd or 3rd in the division with 105+ points than win the division with 70 points. Better is better. It's about continually being better as a franchise/team and building on that year after year -- as they move out from the horrible bottom 5 lottery years.

Being the least smelling turd isn't something to be proud of. Not that i'm saying the Kings are a turd -- quite the contrary.
 
Schrute farms beets said:
I'd rather come in 2nd or 3rd in the division with 105+ points than win the division with 70 points. Better is better. It's about continually being better as a franchise/team and building on that year after year -- as they move out from the horrible bottom 5 lottery years.

Being the least smelling turd isn't something to be proud of. Not that i'm saying the Kings are a turd -- quite the contrary.
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Last year, the Kings improved on the 20-21 season by almost 30 points....and everyone said they overachieved. I guess I'm confused on what the real expectations are for this season. Certainly it shouldn't be another 30-point increase, right?

Since Copley has taken over, they are on a 104-point pace over 82 games. Average that out and that gets us up to 101 points at the end of the season. So, let's say we don't get that and we end up at 99. Regression? Really?
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
Last year, the Kings improved on the 20-21 season by almost 30 points....and everyone said they overachieved. I guess I'm confused on what the real expectations are for this season. Certainly it shouldn't be another 30-point increase, right?

Since Copley has taken over, they are on a 104-point pace over 82 games. Average that out and that gets us up to 101 points at the end of the season. So, let's say we don't get that and we end up at 99. Regression? Really?
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They did overachieve last season. Then they added a PPG winger to the team without moving any roster players. That leads to the expectation that they will be similar or drop off a bit if you believe they overachieved.

So outside of trolling, what is the point here? Thinking they would not get to 99 points would mean regression but it also doesn't mean predicting a lottery pick type finish.

This also reeks of a jinx thread for Sol to dunk on you with when/if the clock strikes midnight on Copley. Did you post this before the loss on Tuesday?
 
Using the record as the only metric isnt exactly science - to support either point (regression or no regression).. depends on the quality of the opponents vs last year.. and also things like scheduled density. Maybe a slightly better metric would be goal differential? Its still not very good.. nothing is static.. things are always changing. You can only fairly evaluate a finished season with another finished season not one in progress.
 
I think the most hilarious thing is the goal differential is almost identical last year, too. The Kings ended last season with a +3, and right now they are currently a +2.
 
BigKing said:
They did overachieve last season. Then they added a PPG winger to the team without moving any roster players. That leads to the expectation that they will be similar or drop off a bit if you believe they overachieved.

So outside of trolling, what is the point here? Thinking they would not get to 99 points would mean regression but it also doesn't mean predicting a lottery pick type finish.
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THAT is my point. It sounds like many around here are expecting MORE from the Kings (point wise) than last year and I'm having a hard time understanding why someone would think that if they also believe that this same team is guilty of overachieving last year.
BigKing said:
This also reeks of a jinx thread for Sol to dunk on you with when/if the clock strikes midnight on Copley. Did you post this before the loss on Tuesday?
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Sol couldn't dunk on a two year old playing with a toddler basketball hoop.

I'm not arguing that this team might be up shit's creek if Copley comes back down to earth -- the goaltending scares the f*** out of me.
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
THAT is my point. It sounds like many around here are expecting MORE from the Kings (point wise) than last year and I'm having a hard time understanding why someone would think that if they also believe that this same team is guilty of overachieving last year.

Sol couldn't dunk on a two year old playing with a toddler basketball hoop.

I'm not arguing that this team might be up shit's creek if Copley comes back down to earth -- the goaltending scares the f*** out of me.
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Chalk up the more points crowd to adding a PPG winger, nobody regresses and the young guys all take leaps. You can also chalk it up to the "they win Round 1 if Doughty is playing" crowd. Of course, I don't know who this crowd is exactly: who was expecting more points?

Regardless, you are going to have certain expectations when your GM appears to believe they didn't overachieve.

You're having fun because they are better to watch and winning games in December v. even playing in May is still fun. Don't have to tell me this since I go to most of the games for 20+ years now: it is fun to watch a f***ing competent power play and a guy in Fiala that is a highlight reel. The point is that some believe this is some shots of tequila and a bag of Cool Ranch: fun while you're doing it but ultimately leaves you wishing you would have made smarter decisions.
 
TruKingFan said:
I hear ya. Plenty here didn't think Kings would even be in this position right now.
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Like who?

There was a poll posted on this forum and it was something like 45-1 that the Kings were going to make the playoffs.

Yet more made up stuff.

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Sol said:
Raise your hand if you thought Marco Sturm wasn't the problem... paging @Axl Rhoadz
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No question that Hiller in an improvement on Sturm. However, in Sturm's defense, he also didn't have a Kevin FIala or an emerging 30-goal Gabe Vilardi at his disposal either.
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
No question that Hiller in an improvement on Sturm. However, in Sturm's defense, he also didn't have a Kevin FIala or an emerging 30-goal Gabe Vilardi at his disposal either.
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Also maybe PP coach isn’t his best role, maybe head coach is a better fit?
 
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