I don't think Hagens should be involved in any Barzal trade. I'd do Hagens as part of a package for a legit 1C, but hold back on guys a tier below. Maybe there's some kind of Zacha or Geekie deal you could do, but if one of them is going to NY, I don't think you're trading someone on the tier of Minten or Letourneau with them.
If they also take on Elias, I'd offer Minten or Letourneau + 23 for him, even throw in Lohrei if they like him.
I was suggesting Lindholm, Minten + 1st for Barzal. Didn't word that as well as I could have.Wait… Zacha, Minten and a first for Barzal if they take Lindholm? Jesus…
Not a fan of Barzal, sure I would trade Lindholm for him, but not trading any top picks or young players, If they wanted maybe Khusnutdinov or Lohrei maybe, but not more than that. Barzal is overrated.For context from last thread:
I was suggesting Lindholm, Minten + 1st for Barzal. Didn't word that as well as I could have.
What I meant with that other sentence was that maybe there's some kind of deal you could do based around Zacha or Geekie that wouldn't involve a Minten or Letourneau. I can't imagine them wanting a package for Barzal that doesn't have a young center coming back, so that's probably not feasible.

Yes. Did you see the deal St Louis apparently turned down for Thomas?Did someone actually suggest Hagens + Letourneau +20261st for Thomas? That's what you think it'd take to acquire him? Glad your doctor prescribed you the strongest medical marijuana on the market.
Zacha 30+35 = 65 in 2025-26 Age 29
Thomas 25 +39 =64 in 2025-26 Age 26
I also included Mason Lohrei + Boston first in 2026............I think the term you used was lightyears away from reality. Who's reality?
Logan Stanley had more goals last season than every dman on our team not named McAvoy.
But you're likely right......they'll just trade Poitras, Lohrei, and resign Zacha and run it back! That's what I got from the press conference too.![]()
the canes are also very good at compiling assets. they use the draft as their own personal sandbox,The Canes foundation is built thru suckage
They went 5, 7, 5, 12, 13, and 2 from 2013 -2018 grabbing players like Hanifin, Necas, and Svetchnikov
Bruins can’t do their model - style yes but I’m starting to see this glorious Hurricanes way and why can’t the Bruins lol
The Vegas Golden Slumbers actually did my (not so humble brag) model : Stone, Eichel, Hanifin, Hertl, and Rasmus Andersson.
I’m obviously Vegas because I basically built that team.
Please understand Carolina missed a zillion years of the playoffs
Did someone actually suggest Hagens + Letourneau +20261st for Thomas? That's what you think it'd take to acquire him? Glad your doctor prescribed you the strongest medical marijuana on the market.
Zacha 30+35 = 65 in 2025-26 Age 29
Thomas 25 +39 =64 in 2025-26 Age 26
I also included Mason Lohrei + Boston first in 2026............I think the term you used was lightyears away from reality. Who's reality?
Logan Stanley had more goals last season than every dman on our team not named McAvoy.
But you're likely right......they'll just trade Poitras, Lohrei, and resign Zacha and run it back! That's what I got from the press conference too.![]()
the canes are also very good at compiling assets. they use the draft as their own personal sandbox,
trading down repeatedly, picking up tons of extra picks, and usually selecting the most skilled players
(the amount of russian players they've picked in the past 4-5 years is wild).
was never a big kyle dubas fan, but in pittsburgh, he's done similar things as far as asset management.
for a harvard man, our GM doesn't seem to do a ton of outside the box thinking like that. yes, in years
past they were cap strapped and had issues taking on contracts for picks, but would be nice for
them to have more than 1 virtuoso moment like they did at the 2025 trade deadline. at least IMO.
I’m not so sure. Neely no dummy I think he realizes it takes a blend.I still don't know how much of that is Sweeney vs Neely. Sweeney seems like he values skill, speed and pace, while Neely values hard nosed hockey like he played with some piss & vinegar.
Did someone actually suggest Hagens + Letourneau +20261st for Thomas? That's what you think it'd take to acquire him? Glad your doctor prescribed you the strongest medical marijuana on the market.
Zacha 30+35 = 65 in 2025-26 Age 29
Thomas 25 +39 =64 in 2025-26 Age 26
I also included Mason Lohrei + Boston first in 2026............I think the term you used was lightyears away from reality. Who's reality?
Logan Stanley had more goals last season than every dman on our team not named McAvoy.
But you're likely right......they'll just trade Poitras, Lohrei, and resign Zacha and run it back! That's what I got from the press conference too.![]()
I’m not so sure. Neely no dummy I think he realizes it takes a blend.
Sweeney has made more than a few suspect picks that weren’t no where near a Neely-Clone or guys with a piss and vinegar type demeanor
To be polite, I'd say that at the very least Sweeney has better media training and is better at articulating his thoughts.Sweeney is the guy "making the pick" but its not his decision alone. He's getting input from the scouts, Neely has input as do some others. I think Sweeney realizes to takes a blend more than Neely does. Sweeney was the GM for the 4-Nations team + the AGM for the last two olympic teams.
My kids ask for outlandish shit everyday, doesn't mean they get it.Yes. Did you see the deal St Louis apparently turned down for Thomas?
I never meant to portray them as identical players. I was just showing that they're getting a very quality guy in Zacha. Most people around here think Lohrei is only going to get better and a 1st is a 1st. My point was just that it's a compelling offer........now I wish I stuck to my "don't propose trades due to high blood pressure and anger issues" statement I made last weekI wouldn’t do that deal for Thomas, but let’s not act like Thomas and Zacha are equal players based off last year.
That was a career year for Zacha and Thomas lowest point total in 5 years.
Zachas career year at 29 was Thomas down year (missed 18 games)
Thomas has been a PPG player since 22.
Sweeney went all in - now he’s not he’s adopted the Dan Plan: 100+ points make the playoffs, keep draft picks and eat more fish and chickenthe canes are also very good at compiling assets. they use the draft as their own personal sandbox,
trading down repeatedly, picking up tons of extra picks, and usually selecting the most skilled players
(the amount of russian players they've picked in the past 4-5 years is wild).
was never a big kyle dubas fan, but in pittsburgh, he's done similar things as far as asset management.
for a harvard man, our GM doesn't seem to do a ton of outside the box thinking like that. yes, in years
past they were cap strapped and had issues taking on contracts for picks, but would be nice for
them to have more than 1 virtuoso moment like they did at the 2025 trade deadline. at least IMO.
Right now, Hagens is probably at or near his peak value. In the short term, he has more room to lose value than to gain it simply because expectations are already so high. If you're going to trade Hagens, the time is probably now, when you're still selling the projection as much as the player.My kids ask for outlandish shit everyday, doesn't mean they get it.
Just because they played the waiting game and didn't move him at the deadline doesn't automatically mean they'll get that package in the summer. The one thing that's always true in the NHL from my over 40 years of watching is that star players return far less than what the fanbase think they'll get.
The Blues don't have to move Thomas obviously, or Kyrou, but they're clearly looking to shake that organization up if they're being two names mentioned. From what I read, they don't want a full rebuild either. In saying that, I'd deal them Hagens and 1st for Thomas in a heartbeat. Thomas is a proven commodity, I think Hagens will be good but who knows how good. Pasta wants to win, McAvoy and Swayman I'd think want to win as well. Cant be wasting 5 years to get them with Hagens and Letourneau as their hopes and dreams.
Aho was great second round pick.The Canes foundation is built thru suckage
They went 5, 7, 5, 12, 13, and 2 from 2013 -2018 grabbing players like Hanifin, Necas, and Svetchnikov
Bruins can’t do their model - style yes but I’m starting to see this glorious Hurricanes way and why can’t the Bruins lol
The Vegas Golden Slumbers actually did my (not so humble brag) model : Stone, Eichel, Hanifin, Hertl, and Rasmus Andersson.
I’m obviously Vegas because I basically built that team.
Please understand Carolina missed a zillion years of the playoffs