I know you’re right but I feel we have that in spades with Raty, Karlsson, Sasson, et al today and potentially Cootes, Mueller, Patterson, et al in the prospect pool. Even Ohgren might ultimately top out at that level too. Plus every forward we draft outside of the 1st round will likely fit that same profile and add another bottom 6 prospect onto the pile. They are valuable roles (to a degree) but are not what you ideally want out of 1st round picks, especially at the start of a ground up rebuild.
It’s just disappointing to basically have one shot at a potential offensive profile and that’s it. It feels like in other drafts you could at least look at guys who had top 6 pathways but maybe had more flaws or longer projections to get there. Here it feels like Hermansson might be the only guy in that profile and even he’ll likely be gone by 24. At this point I’d probably roll the dice on a guy like Preston and hope for the best. I just don’t see the value in taking anyone that, at best projection, tops out as bottom a 6 checker, PKer, or energy/role player.
I think you're just looking at a regular draft here. You usually have top line players available in the top 10 but after that you're not really getting many top of the line players after that, certainly not many obvious ones that you can pick from in the 12-30 range. Look at Lekkerimaki and Cootes. Pretty similar to the outcomes we're looking at this year.
I have to disagree on your very last claim. Folks have started to get pretty adamant that only top line players are worth drafting and everyone else is widely available by trade or ufa so we should only be drafting for elite top line skill sets. If only it were that easy.
I don't think I believe that as we've seen these elite players often just don't exist past 12 in the draft. So what does that mean, trade every pick past 10, forfeit the picks, only take the longest of shots? I don't think so. Players are more than just data or statistics, they are human beings, and a lot of times, those personalities are what bonds the team and makes them a winner.
These are opportunities to take the glue guys that hold your team together, build your identity (which we always seem to lack) and provide the substance of what your team is about. I think this is an excellent opportunity to build your foundation and middle 6 with good character backed up with skill.
Even if you can find equivalent statistical comparison's it's far better to have these players for free on cheap contracts, and under team control. You also have them buying into the city and team for years where you build the mentality of going to war with each other. This is far better than chasing after mercenaries year after year. It also lets you focus on building or adding the final touches elsewhere without yet another unfulfilled UFA off-season. Only so many moves can be made and there is steep competition. These players are not as easy to get as people make it out to be ... imo.
Now this brings me to Dagenais lol. I'm probably going to look dummy in the end but he's a guy I like here as I think he fits a lot of what we should be looking for and have neglected in the past. Speed, toughness, size, really good playmaking and IQ, and some clutch goal scoring prowess. Even if he ends up on the wing. Seems like a hard-working kid and great teammate. Go for the double instead of the homerun.
@thecupismine - I see Dagenais is 18 on Cam's scout list so he's holding strong even though I know you're not a fan.

I also think Morozov would be absolutely awesome. What he's doing as the youngest player in Miami is impressive. High ceiling but also super high floor and all the intangibles. My favorite! Plus he's a big center. I'd probably be running to the podium. My list (so far) at our #24 pick.
Morozov
Command
Klepov
Bleyl
Hermansson
Dagenais
Hemming
Piiparinen
Ignatavicius
Mutryn
Shcherbakov
Hextall
Macbeath
Shilov
Suvanto
I'm just gunning for a player here. I should probably have Hemming higher but I just don't get the vibes from him and he tailed off a lot. Also, I see Rogowski always rated high but I don't like him at all. He's a transformed baseball player with no grit. 6'7" pilon. People just love his size but you gotta be able to hockey too.
Carels has a higer PPG, and Vheroffs 0.56 as a 17 year old in the N
But I am surprised Verhoeff is at number 8. future top pairing dman that can play offence. Why not.
Do you do any reading here at all? Seems like you're always posting stuff that is answered thoroughly before. Certainly you should have noticed all the posts indicating why not. You know, mostly skating, hockey IQ, and a season that asked more questions then it answered.