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2026 NHL Draft: We won #2! Reid or Stenberg for the win; taking Verhoeff is a drafting sin!
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weastern bias
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Chase Fraud isn't even a good attempt. Probably why he hates him so much. Can't think of a good word that rhymes with either names.
The Nemesis
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I'm not against Stenberg in principle and I'm all for using 20 on Ryan Lin, but the rest of the logic, which includes the awful Schneider acquisition and apparently blowing big FA money on Raddysh, is suspect.
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2026 NHL Draft Rankings Final Edition
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Hodge
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Sharks fans 24/7/365: We absolutely NEED top 4 right handed defensemen or else the team is literally going to move to Quebec City
Humble Athletic correspondent from SoCal: I just acquired two top 4 right handed defensemen while only giving up a surplus smurf winger and even got a 3rd rounder back in the process
Sharks fans: NOOOO not like that!!!
Humble Athletic correspondent from SoCal: I just acquired two top 4 right handed defensemen while only giving up a surplus smurf winger and even got a 3rd rounder back in the process
Sharks fans: NOOOO not like that!!!
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When does your 2026 Vegas Stanley Cup Champion t-shirt arrive in the mail?
Hodge
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I like where your head's at but they still need to close things out in Game 7 on Wednesday.
Schneider is not all that good. I See him as a viable bottom pair guy with a middle pair ceiling. Eklund is better. Now, 2 for 5 and Schneider, I can get behind. At 5 we get Reid or voerhoff so that adds two big rhd and loses nothing off the NHL roster.
I think Eklund may be a 70+ pt winger next year. I’d rather not move him if possible. Hence my loving the raddysh sign and Schneider 2 for 5 trade. Solved the RHD issue for this year and hopefully the next decade too.
Imagine adding raddysh, Schneider, and Verhoeff this summer and giving up, literally, nothing but some ample cap space. Not a single pick. Not a single prospect. Not a single roster player. That would be one of the best summers in sharks history and some real GM magic and it would still give us #20 and all our prospects for future moves.
Bystedt, musty, haltunnen, and Lund all look like NHLers to be to me. And all 6’2”+. Not sure their eventual ceilings,but all should remain in the long terms plans and I’d love to see them compete for a roster spot this year too.
We don’t discuss them much here in the long term outlook, but I really think we should. That list is two 1st rounders and two earlier second rounders. Thats a lot of draft capital waiting to get the call up.
I think that makes the raddysh+schneider deal+ voerhoff pick, a summer to complete the entire rebuild and start making some real progress.
I think Eklund may be a 70+ pt winger next year. I’d rather not move him if possible. Hence my loving the raddysh sign and Schneider 2 for 5 trade. Solved the RHD issue for this year and hopefully the next decade too.
Imagine adding raddysh, Schneider, and Verhoeff this summer and giving up, literally, nothing but some ample cap space. Not a single pick. Not a single prospect. Not a single roster player. That would be one of the best summers in sharks history and some real GM magic and it would still give us #20 and all our prospects for future moves.
Bystedt, musty, haltunnen, and Lund all look like NHLers to be to me. And all 6’2”+. Not sure their eventual ceilings,but all should remain in the long terms plans and I’d love to see them compete for a roster spot this year too.
We don’t discuss them much here in the long term outlook, but I really think we should. That list is two 1st rounders and two earlier second rounders. Thats a lot of draft capital waiting to get the call up.
I think that makes the raddysh+schneider deal+ voerhoff pick, a summer to complete the entire rebuild and start making some real progress.
weastern bias
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Still waiting on Schneider to ever even approximate top-4 quality play for even one season in his entire career
Hello Shark fans, I am a Canuck fan, and as such, have followed the Sharks build their team. The Sharks are my second favorite team, and I feel you guys are very close to being a top 10 team, maybe even top 5 team for the next 10 years. I am envious to say the least.
I have a proposition (Trade proposal) for you guys, that you might like????I would like your imput on this.
Vancouver trades 2026 - 3 OA pick, and Filip Hronek
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San Jose trades 2026 - 2* OA pick, 2026 - 20th OA, and 2027 - 1st (Top 10 protected)
*Vancouver agrees to take Ivar Stenberg or Gaven Mckenna, whoever is available at #2. I tried to make this trade fair, in the light that, I feel San Jose, get the best of both worlds in a immediate transfusion in Hronek, and the best Dman of choice.
The reason the 2027 -1st is addd, is that San Jose needs to put something additional ino the trade of value, and I honestly think that the addition of Hronek, makes San Jose a contender or a team moving up and into Cup contention. IMO, you get the best of both worlds. So do the Canucks.
As I say, I am a secondary Sharks fan, and I would be estatic to make that deal, especially as, I think the Sharks take a DMan, anyways
As this is my first ever post, I may have put this in the wrong forum, and I apologize if I did, but feel this is more about the draft than anything, which is why I put it here.
I have a proposition (Trade proposal) for you guys, that you might like????I would like your imput on this.
Vancouver trades 2026 - 3 OA pick, and Filip Hronek
to
San Jose trades 2026 - 2* OA pick, 2026 - 20th OA, and 2027 - 1st (Top 10 protected)
*Vancouver agrees to take Ivar Stenberg or Gaven Mckenna, whoever is available at #2. I tried to make this trade fair, in the light that, I feel San Jose, get the best of both worlds in a immediate transfusion in Hronek, and the best Dman of choice.
The reason the 2027 -1st is addd, is that San Jose needs to put something additional ino the trade of value, and I honestly think that the addition of Hronek, makes San Jose a contender or a team moving up and into Cup contention. IMO, you get the best of both worlds. So do the Canucks.
As I say, I am a secondary Sharks fan, and I would be estatic to make that deal, especially as, I think the Sharks take a DMan, anyways
As this is my first ever post, I may have put this in the wrong forum, and I apologize if I did, but feel this is more about the draft than anything, which is why I put it here.
weastern bias
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Hronek and #3 for #2 and #20 is a workable skeleton for a trade
You're not getting a future 1st out of that, off the table
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Thank you for your earnest effort and politeness.
This is a well trodden concept that came up nearly as soon as we won the lotto, and IIRC even before that, Hronek was discussed.
I think you'll find a wide range of opinions spanning:
1. Hronek isn't waiving, so it's worthless to discuss (SJ or VAN fans)
2. Hronek is worth way more than this (mostly VAN fans)
3. Hronek is worth way less than this (mostly SJ fans)
4. Lots of folks in the middle. I myself would 100% do this deal.
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I'd do this but Hronek probably wouldn't.
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Welcome to the boards.
The offer isn't bad but that '27 1st is a tough pill to swallow. One of our young forwards not already on the team would be more palatable.
Well the reason I think it works is, basically, I do not think the Sharks take a forward, as this is the last kick at the cat to take a high end Dman, and I don't believe there is a better option than Hronek, who is on a great contract, which provides cost certainty, and it gives Vancouver a winger to play with Pettersson. IMO, and pretty much said just about everywhere. The top of the draft class (Probably 1 to 6) are pretty much even, depending on what you are looking for. Most of the top 6 have been, posted at #1 in various fan and media draft ranking. So with that being said........The 2nd and 3rd OA picks are relatively even in value, with of course #2 being a smidge more valuable. (a smidge!)
So basically you are looking (as you suggest) at Hronek for San Jose's 20th OA, and that is not even what Hronek cost the Canucks before he was developed. Hronek is a top 10-15 RHD, and spans the Gap of whatever Dman San Jose takes in the draft.
I do not see anyone that can offer that San Jose gets their man (Thier favorite Dman) and a top pairing RHD that has such a great contract, and skill. For instance, Hamilton is $9 Million, and only signed for 2 more years and is 4 years older than Hronek.
I will also say that Hronek is a non event player, and leads quietly. "IF" Vancouver was not at the start of their rebuild, he would not be on the table. I think you pay a premium for that.
weastern bias
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You are understating the value of trading down in the top-5, even by one spot, no team has done so in the salary cap era
Hronek is closer to the value of moving down from 2 to 3 alone than he is moving down one spot AND adding 2 additional 1st round picks
I don't even love moving pick #20 in the deal, but I understand you have to give to get, so I would do so to make it work
Future 1st round picks are off the table, we are not a playoff lock of a team, San Jose has an incredibly thin and flawed NHL roster, having the protections activate and giving up an unprotected lottery pick in 2028 so we can have a declining 30 year old D man anchoring a bad defensive core is not worth the risk, I'd rather roll the dice on Klingberg style reclamation projects for free in UFA than trade future first round picks before our core has ever even made the playoffs, it's just a non starter
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I still think Hronek + 3 OA for 2 OA + 20 OA + Bystedt makes sense for both sides, particularly if VAN takes Stenberg. I don't think Grier is ready to deal our own 1st rounders, even top 10 protected just yet, likely because we'll be a bubble team next year, but Bystedt isn't likely to get a fair shake at C here with Wennberg signed for the next 3 years.
Well, here is my problem..........Vancouver at the time was a below 500 team at the time, and sent a 1st (17th OA) and a 2nd (43 OA) to Detroit. Being that San Jose's first is a 20th OA, and the 2027 is top 10 protected, and IMO, San Jose moves up the rankings. I don't see where the ask is outrageous.
That and that any prospect equal that 2027 1st is either playing on San Jose now, or is slow developing and may not reach his projected ceiling.
I am not saying no, but I don't hear any suggestions........
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I guess at the end of the day, Vancouver could just take who ever is left at #3, and hope #1 or #2 take a Dman, and trade Hronek separately, in which case he gets 2 1st's and maybe more..........
San Jose takes BPA or Stenberg, and still needs to find that Dman for the future...........
Man, as I said, I am a San Jose fan, and I think this is a hockey trade............and works for both teams
Or the other 2 options
A) Sign a UFA, who will be older and more expensive
or
B) Trade for a lesser Dman, and just wait for your drafted Dman, if you take one, to mature
San Jose takes BPA or Stenberg, and still needs to find that Dman for the future...........
Man, as I said, I am a San Jose fan, and I think this is a hockey trade............and works for both teams
Or the other 2 options
A) Sign a UFA, who will be older and more expensive
or
B) Trade for a lesser Dman, and just wait for your drafted Dman, if you take one, to mature
weastern bias
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You traded a 1st and a 2nd for Hronek and a 4th
That is not the same value as trading down in the top-5 of the draft and adding 2 additional 1st round picks for an older version of the same player
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