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I don’t know about that. I’ve heard on HF that Jared is better.#1 Staal brother
(Anyone else been here since those days?)
I don’t know about that. I’ve heard on HF that Jared is better.#1 Staal brother
That would be a good example why the Conn Smythe should not be awarded based on points.How did Staal win with fewer points than Cole Caufield?![]()
True montreal fan, being hockey illiterateHow did Staal win with fewer points than Cole Caufield?![]()
Stankoven, Blake, and Hall all deserved it more. Marner has more than double his points.
I guess this was a Conn Smythe for this specific series.
posted by @notbias
Wait until you find out that the Conn Smythe award is about the entire playoffs, it's going to blow your mind.
After that, you're going to find out Eric Staal retired in 2024, and no one really cares about faceoff percentage.
Then, you're going to learn who Carolina played in the first two rounds, and it'll really blow your mind.
This is going to be educational for you when you figure all this out.
@notbiasI mean offense is only part of the equation. Staal did an exceptional job all playoff long absolutely shutting down opposition top lines and on the penalty kill. The record tying goal scoring output this series put him over the top for this but he's quietly been elite all playoff long.And Staal was like the 5th best player on his own team
Not gonna argue against his candidacy, reminds me so much of when Cam had to come in during the Montreal series back in 06.should be bus
But Marner? Where was he these past three games when his team needed him the most?
best 3C everCongrats. 37 years old. And very consistent stats too. Both reg season and playoffs. Here's his reg season stats.
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Let's not forget that not scoring is the main reason why the Canes didn't lift the Cup during the past few years. The unexpected scoring of the second line was the main difference between winning the cup and coming up short yet again, and the main reason why Staal got to play in the finals in the first place.Not the strongest pool of candidates, but I think he was the right pick.
People whining about the 2nd liners not winning it are purely stat-watching. Yes they were productive, but contributed little beyond scoring, on a team that won largely because of their outstanding team D. And it's not like they pulled away in terms of production either; Ehlers was right there with them, and Staal/Aho not too far behind.
I think Miller should have gotten some consideration as well.
More to the game than points. Staal plays the hardest minutes and is a leader.Marner had as many points in one series as Staal did all playoffs
Like wtf NHL why do you continue doing this
If Vegas wins anyway? No3 games of the Finals dismisses the rest 3 rounds and first half?
He was far and away the best Knight but like the team wasn’t deserving of the Cup he wasn’t deserving of this award.and a forward has to be so ridiculously better than everyone else to win the conn smythe on the losing team. Like just fully dictating the game like McDavid does. Sorry but Marner just wasn't that these playoffs and especially these finals.
That's nonsense. Stankoven's line was absolutely dominant 5v5. Hall finished the playoffs with 22GF 8GA at 5v5. Staal was 12GF vs 6GA, Stankoven 22GF 13GA. Yes Staal got harder defensive matchups and centers are "more important" but really what happened is voters couldn't decide who on Stankoven's line was the driver, which is too bad. Seems pretty easy to give it to the guy who was PPG, +14 5v5 in 19 games and played with an edge too.Not the strongest pool of candidates, but I think he was the right pick.
People whining about the 2nd liners not winning it are purely stat-watching. Yes they were productive, but contributed little beyond scoring, on a team that won largely because of their outstanding team D. And it's not like they pulled away in terms of production either; Ehlers was right there with them, and Staal/Aho not too far behind.
I think Miller should have gotten some consideration as well.
To those who were holding up Marner up until now...looks good on ya lolWaaaaa waaaa waaa
I think my point completely flew over your head.Do you really not understand how Caufield playing in more games against lesser competition, being a purely offensive player, contributed to him scoring more points as compared to a primarily defensive player playing in fewer games against greater competition resulted in fewer points?
Some of the posts I'm seeing on HF that are tearing Jordan Staal down are quite literally nonsensical. It's like the people posting this garbage are like, "let's not think this through at all, let's just post something negative because it's the cool and edgy thing that everyone else is doing!"
It's not just points, though that's a big factor. There were much more impressive players on his own team.That would be a good example why the Conn Smythe should not be awarded based on points.
Is this supposed to be an argument against what I said? Try again.True montreal fan, being hockey illiterate