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lwvs84 said:
Wishful thinking but:
Zellweger/Hinds/Moore (2 of them?) + for Whitecloud
1st++ for Parayko (if he'll only waive for So Cal)
Kreider for a mid round pick
Sign Mikheyev (or did I miss him signing?)
Re-sign necessary players

Gauthier Carlsson Vatrano
Granlund McTavish Sennecke
Killorn Poehling Mikheyev
Viel Washe Gaucher (?)

LaCombe Parayko
Minty Whitecloud
Hinds/Moore Luneau

Vatrano builds up his trade value and when Terry comes back, he can be moved to patch a hole.
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Not bad. I like whitecloud a lot as well.
 
333KIngs said:
I think he has untapped potential. Size and IQ. Reminded me a lot of Getzlaf in his draft year. Likely pans out as a Johansen but toolset is there for more if he can stay healthy . I think Montreal’s media also f***s with his head
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Dude will be 26 next year and has had about two decent but not great months in his entire career. He hasn't shown much of anything really, at either end of the ice.

We're 7 years in, and gonna be UFA next year ... It's time to call it. He's a bust.
 
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FiveTacos said:
Dude will be 26 next year and has had about two decent but not great months in his entire career. He hasn't shown much of anything really, at either end of the ice.

We're 7 years in, and gonna be UFA next year ... It's time to call it. He's a bust.
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Chicago probably a fringe playoff team last year if they didn't pick Dach or Korchinski. Those picks set back their rebuild timeline.
Boldy, Zegras, Seider, LaCombe, Harley would have been so much better for them. Then there is the Korchinski pick, could have done more there.
 
FiveTacos said:
Wait you actually like Dach? The guy is being talked about as someone who might not even get a qualifying offer.

He's never healthy (missed more games than he's played over his last 4 years), and when he is in the lineup he looks mostly invisible ... and other times lousy. He had a pretty garbage playoff too ... only 5 points in 19 games, and most of the games I saw he was just flat out bad. He's even bad defensively too.

Seravalli is pretty out to lunch on that one.
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“That one”
 
lwvs84 said:
Wishful thinking but:
Zellweger/Hinds/Moore (2 of them?) + for Whitecloud
1st++ for Parayko (if he'll only waive for So Cal)
Kreider for a mid round pick
Sign Mikheyev (or did I miss him signing?)
Re-sign necessary players

Gauthier Carlsson Vatrano
Granlund McTavish Sennecke
Killorn Poehling Mikheyev
Viel Washe Gaucher (?)

LaCombe Parayko
Minty Whitecloud
Hinds/Moore Luneau

Vatrano builds up his trade value and when Terry comes back, he can be moved to patch a hole.
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I could get behind this. Though I thinknit more likely Vatrano moves than Kreider.
 
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I truly believe that we have to start to hand out unearned long-term contracts to our expected core players. Otherwise this will just get too expensive. If you sign Leo and Cutter last summer you have to swallow the risk but at least get more room and balance on the salary structure. Hope they learn this with Beckett.
 
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Masch78 said:
I truly believe that we have to start to hand out unearned long-term contracts to our expected core players. Otherwise this will just get too expensive. If you sign Leo and Cutter last season you have to swallow the risk but at least get more room and balance on the salary structure. Hope they learn this with Beckett.
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That's probably true, until a team gets one wrong. And inevitably we'll see some of those around the league.

Thankfully, thus far we've made the right calls, especially in bridging TZ and Drysdale ... 8 year deals would have been disastrous with those two. Lacombe was deservedly given a "core player" deal. McT was sort of a tweener of core/non-core, and kind of appropriately ended up in between a bridge and max term.

The tweeners are the tricky ones, where they flash enough potential to not be an obvious bridge, but not quite fully there to where it's a no-brainer max length offer. Teams will make the biggest mistakes on those when they get it wrong in either direction.

To me the best thing about making the playoffs was that we got a real good look at our guys ... and I now feel good about the core of Leo, Cutter, and Beckett (and Lacombe) being the right core. No hesitation with going 7 or 8 years on any of them the way I did with the previous 3 high picks, where it was a little murky.
 
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KaseMeOutside said:
It's a money issue to me. Only one of them can play in the top 4. The other becomes an expensive 3rd pairing guy when we have players on ELC ready to play at the bottom of the lineup
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I'm not ruling out a Minty-Zell 2nd pairing long term. I think it'd work well, honestly. But maybe the org feels differently.

And the truth is OZ in particular has yet to do enough to become expensive. Unless someone offer sheets him he should still be fairly affordable for what he is. Minty too, to a lesser degree.
 
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Masch78 said:
I truly believe that we have to start to hand out unearned long-term contracts to our expected core players. Otherwise this will just get too expensive. If you sign Leo and Cutter last summer you have to swallow the risk but at least get more room and balance on the salary structure. Hope they learn this with Beckett.
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The question is why would the players want to sign early in a period of inflating salaries? Answer...they wouldn't. Had Carlsson signed last year he would have no doubt lost millions (maybe tens of millions) compared to what he might sign for now. And if I were him I'd wait until after Bedard signs and demand the same.
 
I'd be fine with keeping McT. Give him the full offseason and camp with Q and give him the chance for a redemption year. He has 5 years left, how many more will Q even be coaching here for.

If not then, the full picture of the trade and the rest of the moves better be worth it
 
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Fair argument, but why no similar trepidation about Nemec as a top 4 D? Byram as a top pair guy? Eklund as a top 6 winger? I'd say there's similar questions about all of them, yet they all just went for primo returns. Why the exception for McT, when out of all of them he's actually had the longest stretches of actually living up to what he's supposed to be?

It's like being at a farmer's market, and people are spending $6 for a single cookie or $20 for a tiny jar of honey ... and then they get to your booth and go, "aren't you a little overpriced?"
 
We’re all headed off to bed and Verbeek is up over the stove absolutely cooking right now. I wish I could be a rat in his chef hat right about now
 
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