WJC: 2025 WJC U20 Division I Group A

Eye of Ra

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    Austria
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    Denmark
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    France
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    Hungary
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    Norway – Relegated from Top Division
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    Slovenia – Promoted from Division I B

9 - 15
Dec 2024
In Slovenia

Who will get promoted and relegated?

Norway or Denmark are my bet for Promotion.
Relegated is most likely Hungary.

I think Denmark looks stronger than in a long time. Lots of players producing in J20 swedish leauge and top league in Denmark.

Hjalte Kruse Thomsen
Oscar Fisker Mølgaard
Albert Schioldan
Anton Linde
Sebastian Skovning
Daniel Olsson
Mads Kongsbak Klyvø
Oliver Green
Tristan Lee Juhl Petersen
Mikkel Skov
Oliver Dejbjerg Larsen
William Bundgaard
Mathias Kløve Mogensen
Tobias Ebener

Victor Schmidt Nielsen
Markus Jakobsen
Marius Kring Andersen
Jesper Bank Olesen
Viggo Damgaard
Frederick Amondsen
Jeppe Kramer
Oliver Nielsen

Kristers Steinbergs
Tobias Gjedved Vilykke

Slovenia has a good team too with Mai Crnkic, Mark Sever, Filip Sitar, Borna Kopac, Jan Golicic and Ozbej Rep.

Austria with Gregor Biber, Vasili Zelenov, Johannes Neumann and Ian Scherzer.
 
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9 - 15
Dec 2024
In Slovenia

Who will get promoted and relegated?

Norway or Denmark are my bet for Promotion.
Relegated is most likely Hungary.

I think Denmark looks stronger than in a long time. Lots of players producing in J20 swedish leauge and top league in Denmark.

Hjalte Kruse Thomsen
Oscar Fisker Mølgaard
Albert Schioldan
Anton Linde
Sebastian Skovning
Daniel Olsson
Mads Kongsbak Klyvø
Oliver Green
Tristan Lee Juhl Petersen
Mikkel Skov
Oliver Dejbjerg Larsen
William Bundgaard
Mathias Kløve Mogensen
Tobias Ebener

Victor Schmidt Nielsen
Markus Jakobsen
Marius Kring Andersen
Jesper Bank Olesen
Viggo Damgaard
Frederick Amondsen
Jeppe Kramer
Oliver Nielsen

Kristers Steinbergs
Tobias Gjedved Vilykke

Slovenia has a good team too with Mai Crnkic, Mark Sever, Filip Sitar, Borna Kopac, Jan Golicic and Ozbej Rep.

Austria with Gregor Biber, Vasili Zelenov, Johannes Neumann and Ian Scherzer.
The Danes have a good goalkeeper in HockeyAllsvenskan Krister Steinbergs that can be decisive for them, a great goalkeeper can win games for them.

I still think Norway has more depth on both the back spots, and on the forward spots and will dominate their games, and #1 round draft picks like Michael Brandsegg Nygård and Stian Solberg. But goalkeeping is likely a weakness on this Team Norway.
 
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carjackmalone

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Slovenia definitely wins the award as best smallest hockey nation on earth only 400 registered players which includes Beer leaguers and youth players
 
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Pan

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Slovenia definitely wins the award as best smallest hockey nation on earth only 400 registered players which includes Beer leaguers and youth players
Welcome to international lower division hockey. There are many more amazing discoveries awaiting you.
 
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orebro77

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The Danes have a good goalkeeper in HockeyAllsvenskan Krister Steinbergs that can be decisive for them, a great goalkeeper can win games for them.

I still think Norway has more depth on both the back spots, and on the forward spots and will dominate their games, and #1 round draft picks like Michael Brandsegg Nygård and Stian Solberg. But goalkeeping is likely a weakness on this Team Norway.
I agree that Denmark and Norway have slightly advantage to advance, but will depend with which players they will come to Slovenia.

Austria has a good team too, as Rögle seems to be their home “club” in Sweden and gave also a lot players in Sweden. Also Slovenia can surprise, just don’t know why Borna Kopac never plays for them, as here in Sweden, he is among one of the skillest players with very high hockey sense. I would not write-off Hungary, but they look weakest here.
 
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SoundAndFury

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Also Slovenia can surprise, just don’t know why Borna Kopac never plays for them, as here in Sweden, he is among one of the skillest players with very high hockey sense.
You answered it yourself, he is still waiting for that call up to Swedish NT.
 
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SoundAndFury

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not sure what do you mean; checked on EP, he is Slovenian, unless I don’t know something.
He is playing in Sweden for 6 years at least, surely he can simply apply for Swedish citizenship if there is a mutual interest. The only reason he wouldn't play for Slovenia is if he wants to preserve his eligibility. It's not rocket science.
 

orebro77

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He is playing in Sweden for 6 years at least, surely he can simply apply for Swedish citizenship if there is a mutual interest. The only reason he wouldn't play for Slovenia is if he wants to preserve his eligibility. It's not rocket science.
maybe, but that would be very tricky, because here in Sweden, you don’t enter NT just like that. Quite a pressure from parents I imagine.
 
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He is playing in Sweden for 6 years at least, surely he can simply apply for Swedish citizenship if there is a mutual interest. The only reason he wouldn't play for Slovenia is if he wants to preserve his eligibility. It's not rocket science.
well he did not. and he is not good enough for our wjc team anyways. he must had a big fight with slovenian federation or something.
 
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SoundAndFury

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maybe, but that would be very tricky, because here in Sweden, you don’t enter NT just like that. Quite a pressure from parents I imagine.
Estonia had an identical situation with Kombe not representing them until he was 19. Such situation is more common with dual nationals but also happens like this.

Of course, it is possible that he simply hates Slovenia or that his family has some big beef with the hockey federation, but that just seems less likely.
 

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Of course, it is possible that he simply hates Slovenia or that his family has some big beef with the hockey federation, but that just seems less likely.

It is not that unlikely imo, maybe decline an early callup or two in a less than polite way due to whatever and then tight knit Slovenian inner circles retribute and here we are. I hope I am wrong though.

Daniel Sprong v2.
 

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Denmark looked markedly worse than Norway against Latvia, by the way. No idea how many of their players were missing or not.
 

orebro77

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Denmark looked markedly worse than Norway against Latvia, by the way. No idea how many of their players were missing or not.
you never know in those friendly matches, but individually I think Norway have stronger names.
 

orebro77

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It is not that unlikely imo, maybe decline an early callup or two in a less than polite way due to whatever and then tight knit Slovenian inner circles retribute and here we are. I hope I am wrong though.

Daniel Sprong v2.
that’s possible too
 

SoundAndFury

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It is not that unlikely imo, maybe decline an early callup or two in a less than polite way due to whatever and then tight knit Slovenian inner circles retribute and here we are. I hope I am wrong though.
Just seems like too big of a beef when we are talking about a ~14-year-old child at the time. Just seems unlikely to me that there would be a situation where such irreconcilable differences arose.

First invites to camp are of "your child was invited" rather than "he must report" nature and it's quite common to miss those due to school, or illness, especially if playing abroad. Again, not an impossible scenario that they constantly refused and just stopped being invited that way but one would assume those feelings would be brushed aside for U18/U20 WJCs. Certainly, Slovenia's incentive to get him to represent them should be stronger than some petty "retribution" quest.
 

orebro77

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Just seems like too big of a beef when we are talking about a ~14-year-old child at the time. Just seems unlikely to me that there would be a situation where such irreconcilable differences arose.

First invites to camp are of "your child was invited" rather than "he must report" nature and it's quite common to miss those due to school, or illness, especially if playing abroad. Again, not an impossible scenario that they constantly refused and just stopped being invited that way but one would assume those feelings would be brushed aside for U18/U20 WJCs. Certainly, Slovenia's incentive to get him to represent them should be stronger than some petty "retribution" quest.
agree, especially as I doubt they have such a large pool of players to choose
 
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orebro77

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Denmark looked markedly worse than Norway against Latvia, by the way. No idea how many of their players were missing or not.
Austria lost big time against Denmark and by names, almost all Austrians were playing. Not a good prospect for coming wjc
 

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well he did not. and he is not good enough for our wjc team anyways. he must had a big fight with slovenian federation or something.
Sagadin better then Kopac?? You must be kidding, right? Have you seen him play this year?
 
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9 - 15
Dec 2024
In Slovenia

Who will get promoted and relegated?

Norway or Denmark are my bet for Promotion.
Relegated is most likely Hungary.

I think Denmark looks stronger than in a long time. Lots of players producing in J20 swedish leauge and top league in Denmark.

Hjalte Kruse Thomsen
Oscar Fisker Mølgaard
Albert Schioldan
Anton Linde
Sebastian Skovning
Daniel Olsson
Mads Kongsbak Klyvø
Oliver Green
Tristan Lee Juhl Petersen
Mikkel Skov
Oliver Dejbjerg Larsen
William Bundgaard
Mathias Kløve Mogensen
Tobias Ebener

Victor Schmidt Nielsen
Markus Jakobsen
Marius Kring Andersen
Jesper Bank Olesen
Viggo Damgaard
Frederick Amondsen
Jeppe Kramer
Oliver Nielsen

Kristers Steinbergs
Tobias Gjedved Vilykke

Slovenia has a good team too with Mai Crnkic, Mark Sever, Filip Sitar, Borna Kopac, Jan Golicic and Ozbej Rep.

Austria with Gregor Biber, Vasili Zelenov, Johannes Neumann and Ian Scherzer.
Norway up, Hungary down
 
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Eye of Ra

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well, would rather have him then Sagadin

Sagadin better then Kopac?? You must be kidding, right? Have you seen him play this year?
Sagadin is not making our wjc team. There is many players ahead of him. Kopac is better than Sagadin, but neither Kopac would make our wjc team even if he wanted. Take a look at Swedish projected wjc team and tell me who Kopac would kick out.
 

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